BF2S Forums Arizona Congresswoman Shot

burnzz wrote:

i'm sorry, DB, i really am. this topic, about 'Congresswoman Shot', the physical attack on our national legislature and these fuckwits debating who knows what, scare the hell out of me - in my life only George Wallace was shot in office, and peoples are trying to gain from it.

Typical knee jerk reaction and it is sad.  There's been plenty since then (world wide)... close to home.. Reagan?

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I gave you arguably 3 of the best players currently playing in their sports. Don't you think they, of all people, would be the ones who want money the most? But they're not. It is a misnomer and is only true for very selfish athletes, and believe it or not, they're not very prevalent. You don't see lower teams pulling in high end FA's (unless they've shown that they have massive potential) just because they throw the bank at them. It very, very rarely happens.

Hero worship? You're the one saying professional athletes are supposed to be "roll" (lol) models, not me bub. The only "hero" I have in sports is Tony Siragusa for being able to play and not have a quadruple bypass. The rest of them, including my favorite athletes, are simply entertainers. I don't make them up to be anything more than that. You, ironically, do.

I say again, 2 entire leagues of professional athletes most if not all mulit-millionaires, went on strike for more money. DO not tell me money is not a motivating factor in their lives. You asked for proof I gave you 2 examples that included entire leagues. They fucked over their fans for money. Come to grips with it.

They are held as roll models, DON'T ASK ME WHY. I did not put them in that position, people like you who seem to follow their every move has. So do not get pissed at me for simply observing it.

You know lowing, I don't go into topics I don't know much about. Worldwide economy and globalization? Can't say I know much about either, certainly not enough to hold my own in a debate. Maybe you should start doing the same, because you obviously have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, how the players associations work with the league or why strikes even occur. You just think it's "oh, they want more money". I believe someone once said here that you view things in black and white only. I see why now.

And for fucks sake, you are a grown man and you consistently spell "role model" incorrectly. It's not even like it's a difficult word.

Did you read the articles? It was for money. They wanted more money. The players, like all union members vote whether to strike or not. The players voted to walk and hold out for more money. They could have voted to keep playing, they didn't. As fans struggle, multi-millionaires were bitching that they were not getting paid enough to throw a ball. You asked for proof, I should you proof, and you want to call it a gray area? What more is there to know about it? and how on earth is it a "GRAY AREA"?

Yer right, typing too fast to catch it, if that is what you are hung up on or can argue against and not the context, sorry.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I don't understand the hatred the left has for Palin tbh.

I don't understand the blind hatred she and a lot of the right have for the centre-left.

Liberals = Stalin !!!

Michael Moore must die !!

Al Gore is Satan incarnate !!

I don't get it.

I thought you were going to list some members of the centre-left.

I forgot, anyone to the left of McCarthy might as well be Castro. My bad.

War Man wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Sorry she was undinated with Law suits all filed from a Law Firm in N.Y.C. Everyday she spent in office she fell deeper in dept. You obviously know little to nothing about her. Brush up or . . .

You're not breaking any news here. I've heard that excuse as well.  Quitting is excactly the wrong thing to do. Nobody said politics was easy.

No it isn't, don't have to worry about dealing with the issues in Alaska. She has more freedom by not being Governor and can do other things that can help her in 2012.

Right.. doesn't have to worry about doing what she was elected to do? I hope she puts that in her presedential resume. If quitting your role as governor was such a necissity how did Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all do it?

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

What the fuck is this thread even about anymore?

Lets see......
Gun control.. left vs. right politics...State gun laws hard 'n soft...science, what is and isn't....Felons and what rights they should and shouldn't have...... do you have the "right to vote" or not (you don't).....who makes too much money and unions that let them....role models, who isn't.....


Oh and a little about a Congresswoman getting shot.

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

burnzz wrote:

i could give a flying fuck about Stingray's karma, this topic has made me hate both Democrats and Republicans in equal measure.

i _hate the partisanship this country has displayed like nothing i've ^hated before.

i just hope to live long enough to see

that America have a civil discourse again . . .

I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.

P.S., go back to the very first reply to the OP. Look who's the first one to play political victim. Surprised?

Ya see, I was off of this forum for a few months, but I still came here to read some of the shit posted, as well as check my PM's. People still went off topic, insulted others, and trolled etc.. Hell I even read some about me and I wasn't even part of the discussion. I absorb all of your little bullshit insults and smart ass comments, and rarely fire back So, spare me your blame for all of the problems of this forum. I am not the instigator of it.

Well, let's see... you come back and a thread about an Arizona congresswoman getting shot has turned into a 50+ page thread with you doing exactly what John and Kmar have said. Coincidence? You can't accept other people's opinions and you always have to have the last word, like a little child. Can't say I blame anyone for flaming you. It's impossible to argue with you.

And I'm not even responding to your other post, you still have a major lack of knowledge on why the strikes occurred other than some quick articles you dug up on Google. That's not debating, that's "oh lemme do a quick google and see if there's something in this article that sounds like it'll relate and if it does, YES, I win".

13/f/taiwan wrote:

lowing you said you would stop posting. be a man of your word.

Am I the only one that likes arguing with him?? It's always interesting to talk with someone with pretty much completely opposing views to yourself.

Wait, wearing a g-string isn't normal??

Wow.. that's fucking hilarious. You guys should go on the road.

burnzz wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Is Quick !  how many States are there ?

really, you try to hard.

The very sad part is I don't feel I have to try at all.

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.

P.S., go back to the very first reply to the OP. Look who's the first one to play political victim. Surprised?

Ya see, I was off of this forum for a few months, but I still came here to read some of the shit posted, as well as check my PM's. People still went off topic, insulted others, and trolled etc.. Hell I even read some about me and I wasn't even part of the discussion. I absorb all of your little bullshit insults and smart ass comments, and rarely fire back So, spare me your blame for all of the problems of this forum. I am not the instigator of it.

Well, let's see... you come back and a thread about an Arizona congresswoman getting shot has turned into a 50+ page thread with you doing exactly what John and Kmar have said. Coincidence? You can't accept other people's opinions and you always have to have the last word, like a little child. Can't say I blame anyone for flaming you. It's impossible to argue with you.

And I'm not even responding to your other post, you still have a major lack of knowledge on why the strikes occurred other than some quick articles you dug up on Google. That's not debating, that's "oh lemme do a quick google and see if there's something in this article that sounds like it'll relate and if it does, YES, I win".

This is a debate forum right? If it goes 50 pages and I am to blame, I say good. People respond to my posts. I do not view that as a bad thing. If they want to flame me, that is all the better, it means I got to them, while I still make my argument without insulting anyone. You do notice that I rarely make personal attacks right?  These forums are no different than real life conversations, they start off talking about 1 thing and end somewhere else. It is the nature of conversation. If that pisses you off, you are are taking this way too seriously.

For your information I did not bring the NFL into this, some one else did and I responded to it. ( just like you did).

Now speaking of the NFL. I read the articles did you? Did you miss where they wanted more money? If you did, go back and re-read it. Cuz ya see, like it or not, most strikes are about compensation IE. money and benefits. and the pro athletes strikes were about that very thing.

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13/f/taiwan wrote:

there was another thread bigger then this one. i believe it was the palestinian one from a year ago.

was i in it?

Kmar wrote:

If you want to start reviewing the thread pay attention to the part where I said both sides are venting irresponsible talk..

I disagree and I am not sorry, The left for the entire Reagan presidency talked and spewed nothing but hatred they doubled down on Bush II with ~ how to kill him ~ He is a monkey ( try calling obozo a monkey ) Laughing when he is attacked physically in another nation.  Putting their own ideology above the prestige, pride and safety of their Nation and fellow Countrymen. They constantly brayed and cheered anytime they saw a weakness, catastrophe or a chance to embarrass our troops. They were quick to condemn them for supposed atrocities yet silent when the facts came to light exonerating US Forces. A cross hair on a map often repeated in political adds Is a Far cry from any off these things.

Kmar wrote:

It is just plain stupid to try and pin it on who started it..

Not if you don't want it to start again. It comes under the heading of accountability and character. Let them pay for once. A good $500 dollar fine and loss of driving privileges has deterred  many a reckless driver from repeat offenses. They are only preaching temperance because it landed in their lap this time. When they had the whip they were happy to employ it. Let them be held accountable for once. No free pass.

Kmar wrote:

Not only that, it is absolutely unproductive. .

So by this logic why prosecute the murderer ? Not that the left appears interested in that at all. This is just an opinion I doubt you or any libs would have if some one had called for Mishemales Rape or obozo's assassination.

Kmar wrote:

The fact that we have people more concerned with their ego, and "winning" is very depressing.

It is not EGO how you came to this conclusion I have no idea. I think your depressed cause it didn't go your way. I am not sorry, when the fate of my children and their future in this country is at stake and being shaped by what happens now. Winning means so very much. Winning meant enough to smear people, call them racist make unfounded accusations of violent behavior and make disgusting sexual insults and references. Now you have the Blow Back from that and you don't want to deal with it. T.F.B.

They made the sandwich they can eat it. Make them and they won't do it again.