| i do | 10% | 10% - 14 | ||||
| i dont, but im christian | 29% | 29% - 40 | ||||
| i dont, im not christian | 60% | 60% - 83 | ||||
| Total: 137 | ||||||
how can you say that when we both know how much an influence nomadic desert life on the arabian peninsula had on the formation of Islam and the doctrines that are held sacred?Beduin wrote:
Islamic culture is a reflection of Islam.eleven bravo wrote:
Islam is a reflection of the culture.Beduin wrote:
For me religion is out of the equation. People will always have their own culture with or without religion.
We can talk about common practises, as praying 5 times a day or fasting ramadan, but those are religious practises, not culture.
you might as well end it now if that's how you thinkMacbeth wrote:
Life is worthless anyway. Nothing matters, everything ends.
that's even more reason to abandon the religious pursuit of banking everything on an 'afterlife'.Macbeth wrote:
Life is worthless anyway. Nothing matters, everything ends.
Unless you're speaking to Mac, I'm not suggesting you or anyone else become born-again Christians or anything (especially since those people are often intolerable), I'm simply proposing that religion has a useful place in our world. Everyone is entitled to his or her own thoughts.Uzique wrote:
gee that's a good point you have there. solid defense. might drop by my local latter day saints church tomorrow, actually.
It's still based on Arab culture, how can you not possibly understand this. I don't know why you refuse to beleive that. All you have to do is look at the Koran. It's not in Swedish is it? What language is it in? Where is everything important based? Where does everyone important come from?Beduin wrote:
Islamic culture is a reflection of Islam.eleven bravo wrote:
Islam is a reflection of the culture.Beduin wrote:
For me religion is out of the equation. People will always have their own culture with or without religion.
We can talk about common practises, as praying 5 times a day or fasting ramadan, but those are religious practises, not culture.
thoughts are private, personal, a personal liberty.DesertFox- wrote:
Unless you're speaking to Mac, I'm not suggesting you or anyone else become born-again Christians or anything (especially since those people are often intolerable), I'm simply proposing that religion has a useful place in our world. Everyone is entitled to his or her own thoughts.Uzique wrote:
gee that's a good point you have there. solid defense. might drop by my local latter day saints church tomorrow, actually.
That is what some would call islamic culture. I say it is religious practises. It then creates a culture that should be common in all the followers, but that is not the case. people do create/keep/modify cultures as it suits them.eleven bravo wrote:
how can you say that when we both know how much an influence nomadic desert life on the arabian peninsula had on the formation of Islam and the doctrines that are held sacred?
example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah
...Beduin wrote:
That is what some would call islamic culture. I say it is religious practises. It then creates a culture that should be common in all the followers, but that is not the case. people do create/keep/modify cultures as it suits them.eleven bravo wrote:
how can you say that when we both know how much an influence nomadic desert life on the arabian peninsula had on the formation of Islam and the doctrines that are held sacred?
example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah
Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-09-06 17:34:51)
so i guess meccas being stuck in the middle of the desert has nothing to do with arab culture. gotcha. its just a coincidenceBeduin wrote:
That is what some would call islamic culture. I say it is religious practises. It then creates a culture that should be common in all the followers, but that is not the case. people do create/keep/modify cultures as it suits them.eleven bravo wrote:
how can you say that when we both know how much an influence nomadic desert life on the arabian peninsula had on the formation of Islam and the doctrines that are held sacred?
example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah
Its not going to be in Beverly Hills now is it?eleven bravo wrote:
so i guess meccas being stuck in the middle of the desert has nothing to do with arab culture. gotcha. its just a coincidence
