BF2S Forums Choose which Relgion you believe he is.

There's a religious and non religious oath for the british military.

Still had to take it facing a picture of the queen though, lols.

Jaekus wrote:

Topics like these just go to show how much people still can't see the separation between church and state.

It doesn't fucking matter. If you elect someone based upon their religious beliefs then you've missed the point entirely from the start.

people don't WANT seperation between church and state sometimes here in the states

it's not as bad as italy though

Phrozenbot wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

1' The Muslim / Christian thing doesn't really bother me.

  My problem is that the media is so blatant in its attempt to cover for him.

That is an issue with the media, not the president then. Is he supposed to chastise the media for that? His religious beliefs should be personal.

My post centered around the effects it had and should have had in a Presidential Campaign. It's important to note that.When responding.
They are personal Beliefs but During the Campaign If he is deliberately misrepresented himself, he is a liar.
The Electorate usually shies from that image.
My point was The media is culpable for the problem if it even exists. How did you miss that  "  My problem is that the media " <--- Did you miss that ?

In politics especially elections a cover up is often worse than the crime

H/J wrote:

2. He needs that Christian title to really carry the black vote in its entirety

Phrozenbot wrote:

Why just black people?

Because the Black vote has a Heavy slant toward Christianity in there beliefs, obviously some are atheists some are Muslim but the majority are Devote Christian and take it very seriously. The may abandon him if they believe him to be insincere, it could cost him re-election.

Phrozenbot wrote:

Anyways, it doesn't matter what his religion is as far as being an effective president goes.

No kidding I was referencing the manipulation of his Religion to run his campaign successfully See above.  Also Do you view him as effective has he kept his promises Do you like the Economy now ?

H/J wrote:

3. He converted at the start of his political aspirations.

XXXX wrote:

[ PROVE THIS !

uh oh, lets see. His dad was a Muslim- so by their thinking he is a Muslim.  He was raised a Muslim,  went to a Muslim school - as an adult ran around in the dress and hat they wear as well as pose for photos in it, and became a Christian when he went to work for acorn. He has referred to himself as a Muslim more than once.  They say it was his wife who convinced him to run as a Christian. I can't even remember where I heard that- might be false.
did I loose anyone ?

H/J wrote:

4. He slips and refers to himself as a Muslim. ( I never Accidentally call myself a Jew )

XXXX wrote:

It must really bother you if he is Muslim. Goodness forbid a Muslim be the leader of the free world.

again from above 1' The Muslim / Christian thing doesn't really bother me.

  My problem is that the media is so blatant in its attempt to cover for him.

Ps ever slip and refer to your self a Girl, Patriot or a Conservative ? 

I have never slipped and called myself Jewish or American Indian. and I know there are 50 states too lol

H/J wrote:

5. We weren't allowed to hear his Pastors sermons during the Election. ( we were Racist !  )

XXXX wrote:

I don't really care.

would you care if he is racist ? He lists Rev. White as a mentor, teacher and source of strength.

If Palin even drove past a KKK rally or had a Neighbor who was racist we'd hear about it.

You are looking more and more as an apologist.

If Racism in a Candidate doesn't bother you what does ? And would it cut both ways ?

H/J wrote:

6. He also thinks there are  59 States in The United States of America.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

  Clearly there was a deep Flaw in his Education Process.

XXXX wrote:

Everyone has their dumb moments. Embarrassing, yes,

" Dumb moment "why are you bending over backwards for this guy ?

Dumb or Very Tiered  is " I forgot where I parked my Car ? "  This is Forgetting what a Car is. you don't want people like that in control of our National Defence or even 1 Nuke.

What about his weighing in and criticizing before he has all the Facts " the police acted stupidly " or

Not knowing the " Constitution " from the " declaration of independence " The Constitution states all men are created equal "  http://www.breitbart.tv/did-obama-confu … ependence/

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

lol, you new to the internet? I don't pretend to be tough behind a computer screen.

would you speak like that face to face  ? if not, Then avoid it here it tend s to make people look - feeble a best and hard to take serious and it sidelines the thread.

Phrozenbot wrote:

Face to face about what? That I'm not arrogant and brutish? Uh... I guess. You clearly missed the point. If you mistook me as an internet tough guy, I was attempting to clarify that I'm not and I'll make more of an effort not to come off that way.

Ok sorry,

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-08-30 14:34:21)

who is XXXX?

/thread

oh and he loves his hot dogs too so

/thread

Apparently a considerable portion of US citizens can't find their own country or many other countries on the world map so I don't think statistics such as these are really helpful to your argument...

LOL what speaks far greater volumes is the clear fact some of you can't even conceive the idea of an objective world view, let alone try to see from one.

Last edited by Jaekus (2010-08-30 14:46:11)

Think you're right here, Macbeth.  Except he isn't even going through the motions anymore ...

FatherTed wrote:

politicians spinning their personal life and outward persona to influence voting oh my

I know, like it never happens at all, anywhere...

krazed wrote:

he will soon, he can't afford to lose the religious vote

and there are a loooot of people that would vote just on that alone regardless of anything else

those people would never and have never voted for someone with a name like Barack Hussein Obama.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

says you.  i dont agree.  /discussion over

Why does it matter if someone believes in evolution or not in the grand scheme of things? How does that effect their ability to govern a war or keep congress in check?

I don't believe in god myself, but I don't let it effect my personal relationships or my view of others. If they want to believe, fine, it doesn't have any impact on my life either way (until they start trying to legislate morality).

Give up.

USM is using this as a way to justify the fact that he doesn't vote, as well as give himself a reason to feel superior to most other people.

go away troll

.Sup wrote:

according to media approx. 1/4 of Americans think he's a Muslim.

o_O
what "media"?

.Sup wrote:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/139353.html

etc

O_O