Monkey Spanker
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BBC wrote:

At least two tonnes of cocaine with a street value of some $1bn has been seized in The Gambia, bound for Europe.

In addition to the huge haul of drugs, the Gambian authorities have arrested a dozen suspected traffickers, and seized large quantities of cash and arms. .
Now what I am interested in knowing is how do you guys feel about drugs & taking drugs. In my job come across the victims of drug abuse, by this I mean both users & people who have been robbed & beaten by people people needing money for drugs. Yet I still manage to keep an open mind on how they affect society as a whole.  I have used lots of different drugs from cannabis to cocaine & most of the inbetween as well & found them to be enjoyable as whole but as I have gotten older if feel less inclined to use drugs to the extent that I don't even drink now let alone use any other drugs. This is partly down to the damage from drugs I see to in my work life & just plain growing up as well.

I would like peoples opinions &  experiences please on how drugs affect them in their life if at all & how can we tackle the perceived threat from drugs.

source:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10268510.stm

World drugs use in graphs as well.
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King_County_Downy
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...Using the best police-mathematicians money can buy.

I love how they come up with these figures.

Still, that's a lot of coke.

/helluva drug, etc.
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5828|Toronto

King_County_Downy wrote:

...Using the best police-mathematicians money can buy.

I love how they come up with these figures.

Still, that's a lot of coke.

/helluva drug, etc.
That's what I was thinking.

In what world is 2 tonnes worth a billion?

20 million tops.

And I think it's cheaper in Europe, too.

EDIT- missed a zero- 200 million, I mean.

EDIT 2- To answer the question: I think it's your life to live so long as you know when your habits need reeling in. Some of the more addictive drugs, and here I am referring to things like crystal meth and heroin, should just never be tried. You're a moron if you do.

Yes, I know all drugs are addictive, but so is chocolate if you have no self control.

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Jaekus
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They really do skew the figures when they talk about street value. In Australia coke is very expensive at around $300-350 per gram. Even at those prices two tonnes would be worth $700 million tops.

Most of the time they make an estimate of a point or gram on the street, then multiply that by the weight, which is simply inaccurate. Noone trafficking two tonnes of coke is going to sell it in grams, they're going to sell it by the kg, and multiples of. The more hands it goes through the smaller the quantities get and the higher the price is per gram.

The following figures are rough NYC prices, I just did a quick google.

For discussion's sake let's say the initial sale from those with the two tonnes of coke would probably be something like $20k a kilo, probably something like 6kg for $100k and $1m for 70kg (buy in bulk and save, lol). The initial sale would likely be in multiples of a kg to shift the large quantity quickly.

Then it gets down to the per kg from the next dealer in the chain, so about $20k per kg. From there it would be sold on in 100g amounts, probably at $2.5-3k. To buy an 8-ball (3.5g) is between $120-180, depending on quality, and per gram is approx $50.

These are largely guesstimates but really, two tonnes of coke is not worth $1bn by any stretch.
mikkel
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How much of the cocaine you'd buy on the street is pure? If actual street value for two tonnes of cocaine is around $700 million, as has been suggested, how much pure cocaine would you need to manufacture two tonnes of typically cut cocaine?
eleven bravo
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coke is retardedly expensive in europe

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-06-08 19:12:59)

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pace51
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Cocaine hurts you, the people around you, but if you think about it, it helps people too. In columbia, when armed forces call in air strikes on drug cartels, they bomb the cocaine factories, not the plants. why? Because without cocaine harvesting, the peasent population in south american countries dies out completely. So bad as cocaine is, it keeps villagers in south america alive and supporting themselves.
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pace51
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SEREMAKER wrote:

someones going to die
Either way, yes
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Hurricane2k9
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why is it called "the" gambia?
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mikkel
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

why is it called "the" gambia?
Same reason for why people call it "the" Ukraine. It's stupid.
LostFate
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King_County_Downy wrote:

/helluva drug, etc.
You've got a good point there.
AussieReaper
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mikkel wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

why is it called "the" gambia?
Same reason for why people call it "the" Ukraine. It's stupid.
Why do Germans call Germany Deutschland?

And why did Peking become Bejing?

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Cybargs
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AussieReaper wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

why is it called "the" gambia?
Same reason for why people call it "the" Ukraine. It's stupid.
Why do Germans call Germany Deutschland?

And why did Peking become Bejing?

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Cybargs wrote:

Beijing has always been Beijing. But you fucking gwai laoz fuck with our language. mother sucker.
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jord
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I'm not bothered what individuals put in their body. I stick to the rule of don't inject and don't do meth though. Not that meth is particularly popular around here, I don't know anyone who does it.

Also I always wondered how much police officers on raids make from taking some of the contraband.
ghettoperson
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eleven bravo wrote:

coke is retardedly expensive in europe
The Wire has lead me to believe you can get it as cheap as heroin, $10 for a little vial.
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Uzique
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ghettoperson wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

coke is retardedly expensive in europe
The Wire has lead me to believe you can get it as cheap as heroin, $10 for a little vial.
that's crack cocaine that they sell to project rats

come on ghetto you have a pretense of middle-class sensibility, don't be so shockingly stupid

proper cut cocaine, i mean the up-market shit, is expensive in america and in europe.

it's expensive everywhere.
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eleven bravo
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35 a gram aint expensive compared to what ive heard from other places
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ghettoperson
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Uzique wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

coke is retardedly expensive in europe
The Wire has lead me to believe you can get it as cheap as heroin, $10 for a little vial.
that's crack cocaine that they sell to project rats

come on ghetto you have a pretense of middle-class sensibility, don't be so shockingly stupid

proper cut cocaine, i mean the up-market shit, is expensive in america and in europe.

it's expensive everywhere.
I figured if they were talking about coke, they meant cocaine, and crack if they were talking about crack cocaine. I didn't say I thought it'd be good coke, probably barely any coke in there. I know nothing about it really though.
Uzique
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the cocaine they seize is cocaine, raw and just formed from the alkaloid base. crack is cooked up differently.

i wouldnt think the raw shit they would seize from labs is cut with anything. that's dealer-shit, street level or up.

the huge batches come straight from processing plants. they just had a whack valuation.

$35 a gram? what are you sniffing, bath salts and beach sand? fuck that. bet that's like 90% shit.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-06-09 09:47:35)

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eleven bravo
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Uzique wrote:

the cocaine they seize is cocaine, raw and just formed from the alkaloid base. crack is cooked up differently.

i wouldnt think the raw shit they would seize from labs is cut with anything. that's dealer-shit, street level or up.

the huge batches come straight from processing plants. they just had a whack valuation.

$35 a gram? what are you sniffing, bath salts and beach sand? fuck that. bet that's like 90% shit.
lol. ok youngsta.
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Uzique
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i may be young but i aint snorting shit stepped on by niggas in crack-dens. as far as ive heard the supply chain in america is dominated by mexicans and ghetto-nigs and none of them do anything good. the politicians and upper-class people probably get theirs straight from inside-connections to colombia or whatnot. conspiracy theory amen. im not sure ive met an american with any big experience of coke that says the stuff you can get cheap at street-level is honestly good.
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