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Jay
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MaxD - Maximum damage done by weapon within MinR.
MinD - Minimum damage done beyond MaxR
MinR - Maximum range for for MaxD
MaxR - Point at which damage reaches MinD

TPK - Time per kill assuming all rounds hit.
RPK - Rounds per kill assuming all rounds hit.
%Mag - Percentage of magazine required per kill assuming all rounds hit.

These charts are assuming an unarmored target (no body armor). If the target is wearing body armor it negates the magnum ammo and you would then use the first chart.

If anyone is curious, the pump actions with slugs and magnum ammo are one shot kills to 21.6 meters.


Lastly, on hardcore mode servers, everyone only has 50 health or 62.5 with body armor. On normal servers it is 100/125. These charts were designed with normal servers in mind. *unsure with patch*


If anyone wants the damage at range formula it is:
=ROUNDUP(100/(SUM(($B3-(IF(F$20<$D3;0;((IF(F$20>$E3;$E3;F$20))-$D3)/($E3-$D3)))*($B3-$C3))));0)

Update - Added damage vs body armored targets. 03/31/10
Update - Changed color scheme and fixed TDD so that the cycle rate wasn't added onto the first shot mistakenly. All weapon kill times lowered. 04/02/10
Update - Added more charts showing RPK at various ranges. 04/09/10
Update - Updated charts for patch 04/21/2010
Update - Fixed formatting 04/22/2010

Last edited by [email protected] (2010-04-22 16:18:45)

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11 Bravo
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where da m95?
Jay
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11 Bravo wrote:

where da m95?
Bolt-actions not included. At 20 yards I will assume you've switched to your pistol

To answer the question more thoroughly... At 20 yards with the M95 you would deal 84.761 damage to the person with non-magnum or 105.952 with magnum ammo. If they're wearing body armor you might as well just hand them your dog tags if you don't plan on whipping out the pistol

Last edited by [email protected] (2010-03-29 06:55:19)

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RoaringJet[FIN]
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what is the damage multiplier on headshots? x2?
11 Bravo
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[email protected] wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

where da m95?
Bolt-actions not included. At 20 yards I will assume you've switched to your pistol
oh shi-  i didnt read what you said.  and you COULD assume that lol.
DUnlimited
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There was another chart that would tell the multipliers and ranged damages but I cant seem to find it anywhere
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Jay
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DUnlimited wrote:

There was another chart that would tell the multipliers and ranged damages but I cant seem to find it anywhere
Roger, it's at this site:
http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

I just used his info and turned it into an easy to read spreadsheet so people could compare weapons easier.
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Jay
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RoaringJet[FIN] wrote:

what is the damage multiplier on headshots? x2?
2.1x for all non-bolt/non-shotguns.
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fbrbs: http://bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14207
dbx: http://bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?s= … mp;p=96918

The relevant file (need about 3 gigs of RAM) is Dist\win32\levels\mp_common\level-00.fbrb

What I actually want to say is: I dislike everyone copying from one page as denkirson has most likely missed a few values and maybe made typos as well.
Jay
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EA4never wrote:

fbrbs: http://bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14207
dbx: http://bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?s= … mp;p=96918

The relevant file (need about 3 gigs of RAM) is Dist\win32\levels\mp_common\level-00.fbrb

What I actually want to say is: I dislike everyone copying from one page as denkirson has most likely missed a few values and maybe made typos as well.
Do you work for EA?
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EA4never wrote:

4never!
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RDMC
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lol @ m60. The tard who thought of that should be shot

Btw..where are the shotguns?

Last edited by RDMC (2010-03-29 12:07:27)

OmniDeath
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The AUG and the M416 do the same amount of damage? I'm pretty sure according to the in game charts, as well as some of the charts floating around on the web the AUG does a little bit more than the M416.
Jay
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OmniDeath wrote:

The AUG and the M416 do the same amount of damage? I'm pretty sure according to the in game charts, as well as some of the charts floating around on the web the AUG does a little bit more than the M416.
You were absolutely correct. Thank you for picking up on it. He changed his damage charts from the beta to release/current so I'm updating accordingly. Should be done in about 5 minutes.
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-CARNIFEX-[LOC]
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Thanks for the effort to compile these charts.  They pretty much confirm what hours of gameplay imply: XM8, PP2000, M60 and 1911 are all rape machines. 

However, I still feel like it's hard to capture the little perks of certain guns on paper...some just "feel" better than others, even if they shouldn't be as good according to the chart (for example, the 93-R essentially feels like its shooting rubber bullets mixed with blanks when I use it, even though it should be similar to the other, non-1911 pistols).



IMO...

PP2000 should do slightly less damage considering its 40 round clip. (Kind of silly that the fastest killing SMG also has the most ammo)

LMGs need an accuracy nerf while firing when you aren't crouched. (Medics should not have better run-and-gun capability than "Assault" troops)

Assault rifles should do the magnum ammo damage as their standard damage, and noobtubes could then be slightly nerfed while keeping the class balanced.
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Jay
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-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:

Thanks for the effort to compile these charts.  They pretty much confirm what hours of gameplay imply: XM8, PP2000, M60 and 1911 are all rape machines. 

However, I still feel like it's hard to capture the little perks of certain guns on paper...some just "feel" better than others, even if they shouldn't be as good according to the chart (for example, the 93-R essentially feels like its shooting rubber bullets mixed with blanks when I use it, even though it should be similar to the other, non-1911 pistols).



IMO...

PP2000 should do slightly less damage considering its 40 round clip. (Kind of silly that the fastest killing SMG also has the most ammo)

LMGs need an accuracy nerf while firing when you aren't crouched. (Medics should not have better run-and-gun capability than "Assault" troops)

Assault rifles should do the magnum ammo damage as their standard damage, and noobtubes could then be slightly nerfed while keeping the class balanced.
The PP2000 is offset by the large amount of hits it needs for a kill. The LMGs I can agree on. Nothing more disheartening than seeing an entire squad full of M60 wielding medics running towards you. The assault rifles are actually better than I had originally posted in this thread so they don't need a buff.
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Stickied.

Well done John.
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King_County_Downy wrote:

Stickied.

Well done John.
The first sticky in this section
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OmniDeath
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Alright, I have no idea where you're getting your numbers, but you now have the AUG doing less damage then both the M16 and the M416, when it actually does more. You also have the M416 doing the same amount of damage as the M16, when it also does more. I haven't bothered to check the other guns for mistakes, those are just the first ones to jump out at me.


Evidence:


AUG does more damage than the M416.

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/13406/BFBC2Game%202010-03-30%2006-08-44-19.jpg


M416 does more damage than the M16.

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/13406/BFBC2Game%202010-03-30%2006-08-47-48.jpg
DUnlimited
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Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series
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Finray
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DUnlimited wrote:

Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series
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OmniDeath
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Finray wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series
What a valid argument

Based on my use with all 3 weapons, my claim remains the same. Even if I'm wrong about the AUG, there is no way the M16 and M416 do the same amount of damage.
Finray
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OmniDeath wrote:

Finray wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series
What a valid argument

Based on my use with all 3 weapons, my claim remains the same. Even if I'm wrong about the AUG, there is no way the M16 and M416 do the same amount of damage.
I'm sure the people who tested all the weapons for these charts are going to be more accurate than what you think "based on [your] use"

Not trying to be sarcy or mean cause I like you, but you're probably wrong.
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Jay
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Finray wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series
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