[R.U.S.E] Discussion

2010-07-15 08:17:08

#126

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
I always found tank destroyers to be a huge waste of time. The ones without turrets always just got destroyed because they never fired at the tanks, just drove towards them constantly trying to get in range and getting shot the whole time.

And thats before you meet infantry, a mounted gun, a building or pretty much anything. I'm surprised people build them at all.

Well they don't fire because the target hasn't been identified, they will only fire upon identified tanks this is where recon comes in handy.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-07-15 08:18:00

#127

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6872

You build tanks
Opponent builds tank destroyers
You build unarmored anti-tank

Problem solved

2010-07-15 08:21:24

#128

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Lucien wrote:
You build tanks
Opponent builds tank destroyers
You build unarmored anti-tank

Problem solved

Unless your opponenet manages to counter it. Anyway they just needed to tweak the range to be equal to a heavy tank.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-07-15 08:23:40

#129

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6872

Then you counter it again

That's how RTS games work. You don't throw the countered at the counter.

2010-07-15 08:27:33

#130

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Lucien wrote:
Then you counter it again

That's how RTS games work. You don't throw the countered at the counter.

I know, but tank destroyers we're incredibly fucking cheap it was rediculous, they needed a range nerf just to balance it out a bit otherwise heavy tanks were worthless as you may as well spam a bunch of mediums and charge at the td's and blow them up because of overwhelmedness

Last edited by War Man (2010-07-15 08:28:49)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-07-15 08:30:03

#131

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6872

war man, tank destroyers can only destroy armored vehicles. They are literally defenseless against every other unit in the game. Stop crying over something you yourself can't beat and learn to deal with it instead.

2010-07-15 08:36:14

#132

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Lucien wrote:
war man, tank destroyers can only destroy armored vehicles. They are literally defenseless against every other unit in the game. Stop crying over something you yourself can't beat and learn to deal with it instead.

Oh my fucking God, I know that. Problem is the counters are absolutely slow or there is a counter to my counter. Like artillery + tank destroyers= dominance on the ground if no side can afford aircraft. I just think that because 2 td's equals the cost of 1 heavy just with 2 guns instead, that the range should be nerfed to show it.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-07-15 11:46:43

#133

SamTheMan: +341|5360|Stoke, England

free for the weekend

2010-07-15 13:04:46

#134

Broodbeleg: Member; +34|6072|The Netherlands

Just played a game with Lucien and Spidery and my brother. I kinda ruined it for the team...

At least Lucien and Spidery know now not to play with me anymore.

2010-08-26 17:49:37

#135

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

OP updated and bumped to reflect game's changed status.

2010-08-26 22:53:06

#136

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

Must say, it's a hue improvement from the beta. Still doesn't have CoH's personality, but you can't really expect it to at that scale.

I wonder what a WW1 ruse would be...stay in the trench for another ten days!

2010-08-26 23:16:03

#137

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6184|London, England

Lucien wrote:
Then you counter it again

That's how RTS games work. You don't throw the countered at the counter.

Thats not how good RTS games work

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2010-08-27 07:26:17

#138

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6872

Mutantbear wrote:
Lucien wrote:
Then you counter it again

That's how RTS games work. You don't throw the countered at the counter.
Thats not how good RTS games work

Yeah I was wrong there, but RUSE specifically is much more counter-based. Units tend to utterly dominate one type and be useless against another.

2010-08-27 09:19:42

#139

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Tank destroyers are designed for a cheap medium and light tank population control solution, in real life they weren't competent against heavy tanks head-to-head, they were only ever effective against heavies when used for ambushing or if it was a fast tank destroyers(turreted ones that sacrifice armor for speed) to quickly move to a heavy tanks side and flank him before the heavy's turret turns. In ruse, flanking has no impact in combat and ambushing only works if you have a radio silenced area with tank destroyers and enemy tanks are in range. The range nerf balanced the heavy tank vs tank destroyer better, taking 2 tank destroyers to counter 1 heavy is more reasonable as 2 tds have the same cost as 1 heavy yet tds win due to outnumbering, while 1 td at the price of a medium tank counters 1 or more medium and light tanks depending on how far they are to the td and if they're approaching. Get my reasoning now?

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-08-27 12:10:33

#140

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

Infantry can still wtfpwn heavy tanks from the woods, even if the danger is marked 'extremely high.' What I want to know is why the demo mission had nuclear artillery.

Also, the personality is all in the cutscenes. The units themselves couldn't possibly be more bland, other than the fact that they occasionally retreat.

2010-08-27 17:32:39

#141

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6633|Finland

Tried when there was free weekend.

First thoughts was this could be cool.

Turned out it is absolute shit.

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2010-08-28 14:10:21

#142

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6682|cuntshitlake

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Infantry can still wtfpwn heavy tanks from the woods, even if the danger is marked 'extremely high.

recon anyone?

main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg

2010-08-28 20:00:12

#143

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Also, the personality is all in the cutscenes. The units themselves couldn't possibly be more bland, other than the fact that they occasionally retreat.

If units are near death they will retreat and not fire back, to solve this problem use the fanaticism ruse so they can fight to the death(this ruse often has been a life saver and made quite the difference)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-08-28 22:08:51

#144

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6961|FUCK UBISOFT

System Shock 2 is better

2010-08-28 22:09:25

#145

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6184|London, England

I prefer starcraft 2

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2010-08-28 22:18:02

#146

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6372|what

I look forward to [R.U.S.E] 2

2010-08-29 12:10:58

#147

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Miggle wrote:
System Shock 2 is better

This is a fucking rts, game. You are comparing a fps game to this. Fucking troll

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-08-29 13:45:48

#148

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6688

War Man wrote:
Miggle wrote:
System Shock 2 is better
This is a fucking rts, game. You are comparing a fps game to this. Fucking troll

And this right here is why people sometimes have doubts about your intellect War Man.

2010-08-29 16:21:48

#149

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

War Man wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Also, the personality is all in the cutscenes. The units themselves couldn't possibly be more bland, other than the fact that they occasionally retreat.
If units are near death they will retreat and not fire back, to solve this problem use the fanaticism ruse so they can fight to the death(this ruse often has been a life saver and made quite the difference)

I'm not talking about retreating as an issue (it isn't), I'm saying that it doesn't nearly have as much personality as the dead panic CoH displays.

2010-08-29 17:32:38

#150

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
War Man wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Also, the personality is all in the cutscenes. The units themselves couldn't possibly be more bland, other than the fact that they occasionally retreat.
If units are near death they will retreat and not fire back, to solve this problem use the fanaticism ruse so they can fight to the death(this ruse often has been a life saver and made quite the difference)
I'm not talking about retreating as an issue (it isn't), I'm saying that it doesn't nearly have as much personality as the dead panic CoH displays.

......Doesn't need it and shouldn't have it.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

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