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Motion secondedJohnG@lt wrote:
she has big knockers
Last edited by Pug (2009-12-02 13:45:49)
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Who cares, really the honest reason this shit doesn't get based is because it will give tax breaks and potential health insurance to anyone..
It's not about the marriage, it's about the benefits State and federal..
This is actually a good view point I never really considered before. Seems like it would keep everybody reasonably happy.konfusion wrote:
Just make everything civil unions, and leave marriage to religions - figured everyone would have gotten that by now.
-kon
It's just a copout.h4hagen wrote:
This is actually a good view point I never really considered before. Seems like it would keep everybody reasonably happy.konfusion wrote:
Just make everything civil unions, and leave marriage to religions - figured everyone would have gotten that by now.
-kon
The problem is you can have two guys who aren't in a relationship getting a "civil union" just to scam the government for benefits.JohnG@lt wrote:
It's just a copout.h4hagen wrote:
This is actually a good view point I never really considered before. Seems like it would keep everybody reasonably happy.konfusion wrote:
Just make everything civil unions, and leave marriage to religions - figured everyone would have gotten that by now.
-kon
I knew plenty of guys and girls in the military that only got married because it doubled their housing allowance and allowed them to live off base. I wouldn't be surprised if many civilians do the same just to receive tax breaks.Superior Mind wrote:
The problem is you can have two guys who aren't in a relationship getting a "civil union" just to scam the government for benefits.JohnG@lt wrote:
It's just a copout.h4hagen wrote:
This is actually a good view point I never really considered before. Seems like it would keep everybody reasonably happy.
If there was a way to recognize this falseness, then gay marriage would easily become a non issue, I think.JohnG@lt wrote:
I knew plenty of guys and girls in the military that only got married because it doubled their housing allowance and allowed them to live off base. I wouldn't be surprised if many civilians do the same just to receive tax breaks.Superior Mind wrote:
The problem is you can have two guys who aren't in a relationship getting a "civil union" just to scam the government for benefits.JohnG@lt wrote:
It's just a copout.
I'm not really understanding your point. I've already shown that the current system can and is abused. Why would gay marriage all of a sudden change this? It doesn't change the amount of people currently in our society so logically, the level of abuse would remain the same.Superior Mind wrote:
If there was a way to recognize this falseness, then gay marriage would easily become a non issue, I think.JohnG@lt wrote:
I knew plenty of guys and girls in the military that only got married because it doubled their housing allowance and allowed them to live off base. I wouldn't be surprised if many civilians do the same just to receive tax breaks.Superior Mind wrote:
The problem is you can have two guys who aren't in a relationship getting a "civil union" just to scam the government for benefits.
Allow me to clarify. If there was a way to determine if a couple, gay or straight, were marrying purely for governmental advantages, then gay marriage would be of less concern. As it stands now, legalizing gay marriage would open up scamming opportunities to 100% of the adult population.JohnG@lt wrote:
I'm not really understanding your point. I've already shown that the current system can and is abused. Why would gay marriage all of a sudden change this? It doesn't change the amount of people currently in our society so logically, the level of abuse would remain the same.Superior Mind wrote:
If there was a way to recognize this falseness, then gay marriage would easily become a non issue, I think.JohnG@lt wrote:
I knew plenty of guys and girls in the military that only got married because it doubled their housing allowance and allowed them to live off base. I wouldn't be surprised if many civilians do the same just to receive tax breaks.
It is already open to 100% of the population. What is preventing a gay man and a lesbian from having a sham marriage solely for government benefits?Superior Mind wrote:
Allow me to clarify. If there was a way to determine if a couple, gay or straight, were marrying purely for governmental advantages, then gay marriage would be of less concern. As it stands now, legalizing gay marriage would open up scamming opportunities to 100% of the adult population.JohnG@lt wrote:
I'm not really understanding your point. I've already shown that the current system can and is abused. Why would gay marriage all of a sudden change this? It doesn't change the amount of people currently in our society so logically, the level of abuse would remain the same.Superior Mind wrote:
If there was a way to recognize this falseness, then gay marriage would easily become a non issue, I think.
Nothing I suppose, but gay marriage would certainly make it easier for all.JohnG@lt wrote:
It is already open to 100% of the population. What is preventing a gay man and a lesbian from having a sham marriage solely for government benefits?Superior Mind wrote:
Allow me to clarify. If there was a way to determine if a couple, gay or straight, were marrying purely for governmental advantages, then gay marriage would be of less concern. As it stands now, legalizing gay marriage would open up scamming opportunities to 100% of the adult population.JohnG@lt wrote:
I'm not really understanding your point. I've already shown that the current system can and is abused. Why would gay marriage all of a sudden change this? It doesn't change the amount of people currently in our society so logically, the level of abuse would remain the same.
How so? If 100% can already cheat the system, would adding gay marriage make 200% of the people capable of cheating it?Superior Mind wrote:
Nothing I suppose, but gay marriage would certainly make it easier for all.JohnG@lt wrote:
It is already open to 100% of the population. What is preventing a gay man and a lesbian from having a sham marriage solely for government benefits?Superior Mind wrote:
Allow me to clarify. If there was a way to determine if a couple, gay or straight, were marrying purely for governmental advantages, then gay marriage would be of less concern. As it stands now, legalizing gay marriage would open up scamming opportunities to 100% of the adult population.
I feel like it would be easier to get a scam going with a buddy than with a lady friend. Just my opinion.JohnG@lt wrote:
How so? If 100% can already cheat the system, would adding gay marriage make 200% of the people capable of cheating it?Superior Mind wrote:
Nothing I suppose, but gay marriage would certainly make it easier for all.JohnG@lt wrote:
It is already open to 100% of the population. What is preventing a gay man and a lesbian from having a sham marriage solely for government benefits?
Then you need to work on your friendship skills with the ladiesSuperior Mind wrote:
I feel like it would be easier to get a scam going with a buddy than with a lady friend. Just my opinion.JohnG@lt wrote:
How so? If 100% can already cheat the system, would adding gay marriage make 200% of the people capable of cheating it?Superior Mind wrote:
Nothing I suppose, but gay marriage would certainly make it easier for all.
Hey now. I've no problem with the ladies. I'm just closer to my male friends. The only woman I could see being closer to is one who I am in a relationship with and in love with which negates the scam part of the marriage.JohnG@lt wrote:
Then you need to work on your friendship skills with the ladiesSuperior Mind wrote:
I feel like it would be easier to get a scam going with a buddy than with a lady friend. Just my opinion.JohnG@lt wrote:
How so? If 100% can already cheat the system, would adding gay marriage make 200% of the people capable of cheating it?
Yes, because it's not been done with "real" marriage...Superior Mind wrote:
The problem is you can have two guys who aren't in a relationship getting a "civil union" just to scam the government for benefits.JohnG@lt wrote:
It's just a copout.h4hagen wrote:
This is actually a good view point I never really considered before. Seems like it would keep everybody reasonably happy.
