Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6091|شمال
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evga's x79 flagship
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west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
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Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6091|شمال
Proud member of the resistance movement!
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Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.
Is it worth getting a bulldozer instead of something like a 1055t/1090t?
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6947|Greenwood, IN
If you want more cores then yes.(8 Core Bulldozer)  Otherwise no.  There is a 10-15% loss of performance as of right now when you compare Bulldozer to the Phenom II series.

Last edited by Naturn (2012-02-14 15:55:03)

Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.

Naturn wrote:

If you want more cores then yes.(8 Core Bulldozer)  Otherwise no.  There is a 10-15% loss of performance as of right now when you compare Bulldozer to the Phenom II series.
Well I've read some benchmarks that say in single threaded program's the phenom is better but in multithreaded applications the bulldozer has it beat.

Theyre also evenly priced.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6947|Greenwood, IN
I would think you may not have a choice between the 2 to much longer.  They might be phasing out the Phenom II series if they have not already.  I personally would get a Phenom II X6 1090T if you can find one.  I would assume you would mostly be gaming with it.  So look at the benchmarks in games.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.

Naturn wrote:

I would think you may not have a choice between the 2 to much longer.  They might be phasing out the Phenom II series if they have not already.  I personally would get a Phenom II X6 1090T if you can find one.  I would assume you would mostly be gaming with it.  So look at the benchmarks in games.
Indeed a would be gaming with it. Cheers Nate.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.
Finally, when it came time to play games the FX range was really no better than the Phenom II. To be completely honest, gaming on these high-end processors is so similar it's hardly worth worrying about. The FX-8150 was never more than a few frames per second slower than the Core i7-2600K at 1920x1200.

Given that today’s latest game releases are only starting to adopt quad-core processors, having six or even eight threads available is of little consequence.

As for performance vs. power efficiency, the AMD FX processors are really not much better than the Phenom II range either, which is disappointing. When compared to Sandy Bridge CPUs, such as the Core i7-2600K and Core i5-2500K, the new FX processors stack up very poorly.
Yeah phenom it is.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6490|'straya
To be honest, if you're on a budget you get a Phenom II, and if you want performance you go Intel. Bulldozer doesn't seem to have it's place in the market.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

To be honest, if you're on a budget you get a Phenom II, and if you want performance you go Intel. Bulldozer doesn't seem to have it's place in the market.
I wouldn't say I'm on a budget, just don't wanna spend a lot more money for intel, for that i would require a new motherboard and a new processor, and I only got my 990fx ud3 on Thursday.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6490|'straya

Camm wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

To be honest, if you're on a budget you get a Phenom II, and if you want performance you go Intel. Bulldozer doesn't seem to have it's place in the market.
I wouldn't say I'm on a budget, just don't wanna spend a lot more money for intel, for that i would require a new motherboard and a new processor, and I only got my 990fx ud3 on Thursday.
Yeah I don't mean in your particular case, just the CPU market in general.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6947|Greenwood, IN
Should mobo makers just drop PCI expansion slots all together?  Question for discussion I guess.
Benzin
Member
+576|6340

Beduin wrote:


evga's x79 flagship
... and only 6 internal SATA ports. A bit sad, if you ask me.
Computer_Guy
Member
+54|7038

CapnNismo wrote:

Beduin wrote:


evga's x79 flagship
... and only 6 internal SATA ports. A bit sad, if you ask me.
I think there is more than that with the two metal connectors near the bottom. Also what form factor is this board?
Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6815|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Oh, balls. Ye olde power unit, Codegen Dual Switching 550W ATX 2.0 (P4) started to have some noise. Looking at a Corsair TX750W V2 Enthusiast Series for replacement.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6683|Atlanta, Georgia
My monitor is doing something peculiar. If i'm on a website with a black background (or game) then switch to a white website my monitor has to fade to white. It doesn't go straight to white. It takes it a second to fade from black to white, its not as bad as it sounds tho, it starts at a light grey then goes white.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6091|شمال

Computer_Guy wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Beduin wrote:


evga's x79 flagship
... and only 6 internal SATA ports. A bit sad, if you ask me.
.. Also what form factor is this board?
High Performance Technology Extended, HPTX. dubbed by evga when the sr-2 came out... pretty fabcy stuff
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Benzin
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So I'm looking into buying a second, cheap GPU so I can drive my 3 monitors and HDTV in the next room at the same time. Goal would be to simply have monitor #2 cloned onto the HDTV so that way I don't have to constantly turn the one monitor off and switch the HDTV on via Windows Control Panel. Looking at the GT430 (I have a GTX460), but the odd thing is that I don't see any way that I can SLI these cards, nor do I see any power connectors of any kind on the board... The card in the link is a passive Zotac and I was looking at an EVGA, too, but didn't see anything on that one, either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500222

Anyone know how I would connect my SLI bridge?
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|5309|Dundee, Scotland.

CapnNismo wrote:

So I'm looking into buying a second, cheap GPU so I can drive my 3 monitors and HDTV in the next room at the same time. Goal would be to simply have monitor #2 cloned onto the HDTV so that way I don't have to constantly turn the one monitor off and switch the HDTV on via Windows Control Panel. Looking at the GT430 (I have a GTX460), but the odd thing is that I don't see any way that I can SLI these cards, nor do I see any power connectors of any kind on the board... The card in the link is a passive Zotac and I was looking at an EVGA, too, but didn't see anything on that one, either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500222

Anyone know how I would connect my SLI bridge?
You don't need to SLi a second card to run a monitor off of it. If you're just needing to output HD res, you won't need a massive card. Something old will do. I'm pretty sure an 8400gs would be fine. I was running a 1600x1200 CRT off of one alone
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6490|'straya
Even if you did go down the SLi route, you can't SLi 2 different cards. You would need another GTX460.

You may be confused with AMD crossfire where you can use two cards from the same series eg 69xx - a 6970 and a 6950 would work together.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7032|Devon, England
Yeah, any card will do.
Benzin
Member
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Camm wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

So I'm looking into buying a second, cheap GPU so I can drive my 3 monitors and HDTV in the next room at the same time. Goal would be to simply have monitor #2 cloned onto the HDTV so that way I don't have to constantly turn the one monitor off and switch the HDTV on via Windows Control Panel. Looking at the GT430 (I have a GTX460), but the odd thing is that I don't see any way that I can SLI these cards, nor do I see any power connectors of any kind on the board... The card in the link is a passive Zotac and I was looking at an EVGA, too, but didn't see anything on that one, either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500222

Anyone know how I would connect my SLI bridge?
You don't need to SLi a second card to run a monitor off of it. If you're just needing to output HD res, you won't need a massive card. Something old will do. I'm pretty sure an 8400gs would be fine. I was running a 1600x1200 CRT off of one alone
Ah OK. Well the GT430/GT440 I am looking at from EVGA or Zotac both run about €40. Maybe I can get a 2xx series that is even cheaper than that...


Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Even if you did go down the SLi route, you can't SLi 2 different cards. You would need another GTX460.

You may be confused with AMD crossfire where you can use two cards from the same series eg 69xx - a 6970 and a 6950 would work together.
I thought with Nvidia you could do that and have one card be a PhysX card while the other did the grunt work.


FFLink wrote:

Yeah, any card will do.
Cheers for the confirmation.
Benzin
Member
+576|6340
But actually just one quick other question: what about the power connector? On none of these cards have I seen a connector to hook it up to the PSU anywhere... is that possible that it gets all the juice from the PCIe slot?

Last edited by CapnNismo (2012-02-15 21:53:20)

Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6490|'straya
Yes the GT430 (and similarly low end cards) do not need a power connector as they can gain sufficient power from the pcie slot.

And yes you can have a dedicated Physx card. However, this is not SLi, it is just having a dedicated Physx card (as such you don't need an SLi bridge, you just have to enable the card as Physx). You can certainly run monitors off a Physx capable card, however I'm not sure what impact that would have on your in-game physx performance. Also, there aren't a huge amount of games that support physx so unless you play these games regularly it's not such a big deal and you can just run pretty much any card normally for your extra monitors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX#PhysX_in_video_games

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