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Bertster7 wrote:

The other is very likely to destroy your CPU.

Both are very stupid, but one is more stupid than the other.

How would you destroy the cpu if you couldn't close it with the locking mechanism open? If you don't unlock it, it just sits there unlocked. If it's unlocked, it'll be physically in the way.

im just um goin to do it in this order

Finray wrote:

E: The order I'd do it in personally is this:

Open case
Install PSU
Install hard drives, optical drives
Route cables to where you'll need them to be
Take motherboard
Install CPU
Apply thermal paste and heatsink, plug power cable for heatsink fan into motherboard
Install RAM
Install motherboard in case
Install Graphics, Sound, etc cards
Plug in rainbow cable, CPU power cable, hard-drives and optical drives, if your GPU needs it plug that cable in too.
Plug SATA cables from hdd/optical to motherboard
Put side on case, plug cables into the back of it, press go.

If you slap the heatsink on the CPU and the pins take the load from both the CPU and heatsink you easily fucked.

Bevo wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Well sure, if you try and hammer the bloody thing in there. I did try it, when I was putting my pc together. It just sat there. And I was like, hmm, that's not right.

What are you talking now, lets have a quote of what you said....

Bevo wrote:

put fan on cpu, put cpu in mobo, mobo in case, make sure there's risers

That will result in bent pins. Almost guaranteed.

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Well sure, if you try and hammer the bloody thing in there. I did try it, when I was putting my pc together. It just sat there. And I was like, hmm, that's not right.

What are you talking now, lets have a quote of what you said....

Bevo wrote:

put fan on cpu, put cpu in mobo, mobo in case, make sure there's risers

That will result in bent pins. Almost guaranteed.

can someone get a facepalm image in here, jesus

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Pretty much everything turns into conductive when even little dust and impurities get into it.

Still not going to kill the board and processor, plenty of people put dielectric grease between their cpu and board when going sub-zero and it doesn't kill them.

alexb wrote:

jaymz9350 wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Pretty much everything turns into conductive when even little dust and impurities get into it.

Still not going to kill the board and processor, plenty of people put dielectric grease between their cpu and board when going sub-zero and it doesn't kill them.

If its conductive, yes, it will damage the board and CPU...

Yeah my point is TIM won't get enough impurities in it in the time it takes to make it conductive enough guarantee the board and processor will die as stated earlier, similar to my example of dielectric grease.

alexb wrote:

jaymz9350 wrote:

alexb wrote:

If its conductive, yes, it will damage the board and CPU...

Yeah my point is TIM won't get enough impurities in it in the time it takes to make it conductive enough guarantee the board and processor will die as stated earlier, similar to my example of dielectric grease.

Most pastes have Silver in them, which is conductive.

I did mention in the earlier post if you use AS5 or similar which is capacitive (they are not conductive) you could damage things, but still not a guarantee.

The point was mad that putting TIM between a socket and CPU will guarantee a dead board and CPU which it won't.  Not a good idea to try and would be a pain in the ass to clean up but most likely will just be a lesson learned and not a shopping trip.


And the only silver based paste I've personally seen is AS5 (not saying it's the only one I know it's not), all others that I've bought or received did not contain silver.

Last edited by jaymz9350 (2010-08-16 18:27:24)

jaymz9350 wrote:

alexb wrote:

jaymz9350 wrote:

Yeah my point is TIM won't get enough impurities in it in the time it takes to make it conductive enough guarantee the board and processor will die as stated earlier, similar to my example of dielectric grease.

Most pastes have Silver in them, which is conductive.

I did mention in the earlier post if you use AS5 or similar which is capacitive (they are not conductive) you could damage things, but still not a guarantee.

The point was mad that putting TIM between a socket and CPU will guarantee a dead board and CPU which it won't.  Not a good idea to try and would be a pain in the ass to clean up but most likely will just be a lesson learned and not a shopping trip.


And the only silver based paste I've personally seen is AS5 (not saying it's the only one I know it's not), all others that I've bought or received did not contain silver.

Do you have any proof that those pastes are not conductive/capacitive too? Silver is not only metal used in the pastes...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-08-17 07:39:25)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

jaymz9350 wrote:

alexb wrote:

Most pastes have Silver in them, which is conductive.

I did mention in the earlier post if you use AS5 or similar which is capacitive (they are not conductive) you could damage things, but still not a guarantee.

The point was mad that putting TIM between a socket and CPU will guarantee a dead board and CPU which it won't.  Not a good idea to try and would be a pain in the ass to clean up but most likely will just be a lesson learned and not a shopping trip.


And the only silver based paste I've personally seen is AS5 (not saying it's the only one I know it's not), all others that I've bought or received did not contain silver.

Do you have any proof that those pastes are not conductive/capacitive too? Silver is not only metal used in the pastes...

Sure

http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Electrical Insulator:
Céramique does not contain any metal or other electrically conductive materials. It is a pure electrical insulator, neither electrically conductive nor capacitive.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_alum … hesive.htm

Electrical Insulator:
Arctic Alumina Compound is a pure electrical insulator, neither electrically conductive nor capacitive.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_alum … hesive.htm

Arctic Alumina Adhesive is a pure electrical
insulator, neither electrically conductive nor capacitive.

(granted it's an adhesive TIM but TIM noe the less


http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/p … mp;mID=274

Safer. Better.
The ARCTIC MX-3 is a metal-free, non-electrically conductive compound which does not cause any damage of the components if it is accidentally spilled out on them. It eliminates any risks of short circuit and provides more protection to the CPUs, graphic cards and other applications between power semiconductor components and heatsinks.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/p … mp;mID=126

Safe to apply anywhere
Since the MX-2 does not contain any metal particles, there are no problems regarding electrical conductivity or capacitance. Unlike other silver and copper compounds, MX-2 ensures that contact to electrical circuits, pins and leads cannot result in any damage.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/c … y_compound

Non-electrically conductive

doesn't specify being non-capacitive but from reading a bit on the site they seem to confuse the two terms
http://www.innovationcooling.com/overview.htm
can't copy-paste from that page

These are quite a few of pastes that you would purchase.

I'm not saying silver based pastes don't still exist but are really a thing of the past as new technology is taking over and out performing them.

Last edited by jaymz9350 (2010-08-17 14:22:58)

burnzz wrote:

thread needs more pictures

http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/21025 … 20comp.jpg

wife's mobo failed, had to do an emergency mobo-ectomy.

Nice hairy hands, burnzz.
What happened to it, and how did you fix it?
What are the specs of that PC?

That's a Centurion 5 case, right? I have one for my main PC.

Last edited by alexb (2010-08-17 21:02:01)

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod … id=1342490

damn, dell is screwing people for these drives, worse than i would expect even