Shimakaze
Through the valley of the shadow of death...
+6|5345|Vancouver, Canada
Just out of curiosity, can anyone explain the game mechanics dragshots exploit? I've seen how the shots are performed, and I'd like to know why they work.

Thanks
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|6825|Grapevine, TX
First you
Shimakaze
Through the valley of the shadow of death...
+6|5345|Vancouver, Canada

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

First you
Want to elaborate?
Laika
Member
+75|5940
They aren't an exploit.
JakAttaK
csanva<3
+492|6322|England
They don't exploit anything. It's just people with quick reactions dragging their mouse. It may exploit hitboxes every now and then, but it's not a guaranteed thing, and tbh, you can get that from shooting normally anyway. Think of it as throwing the shot.
Shimakaze
Through the valley of the shadow of death...
+6|5345|Vancouver, Canada

Ataronchronon wrote:

They aren't an exploit.
I used the word exploit in the sense of "utilizing" something, not like a "game exploit" e.g. cheat.
H3RB4L ABU53
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Dragshots don't exploit the games physics or anything you can do them on any game it's just easier to do on BF2 imo seems like everyone can do it now lol all it is is say you are quite close to an enemy, instead of lining up your shot which takes time (and usually the enemy will have moved by then, which is annoying especially if it's a tiny bit making you miss) you just drag the centre of the crosshair quickly over the enemy and click when you know it will hit, if you find it hard at first just keep trying, it's all about timing, it's just as easy to do with low sens as it is high sens but you have to get used to when to shoot, so you will find it really hard if you keep changing your sensitivity, lower sensitivity is more accurate and will definatly get you more consistent hits.
I find that they are useful for close range and extreme long range moving targets, but in my experience in a mid-long range sniper vs sniper battle you are better off lining up your shot, going prone then stand and quickshot their head, you can drag to the head but they are mostly used for body shots imo as you will be more consistant quickshotting heads because the target is already lined up and you only have to move the crosshair a tiny bit if they have moved, so you can get behind cover quicker then the time it takes to drag the crosshair- a lot of people will probably disagree but from my experience it works.
I normally only dragshot moving targets because it's too frustrating when you quickly line up a shot and they just start to sprint, or move a little bit and makes you miss, a drag almost guarantees a hit, but I'd say against stationary targets mid range you would be quicker and more accurate to quickshot, dragshots aren't luck like a lot of people think it is very precise when you practice it enough, it just looks like complete luck in sniper vids, when you practice it enough and get good you get a feeling of just how to do it and it always works and most of the time it will be a hit.
Try doing it quite slowly to start off with, you will be more accurate that way if you are just starting to do it, and you will get quicker and quicker until you can almost immediatly shoot them from anywhere within your scope.
In my opinion the worst thing to do is force it, like trying to copy people in sniper vids, it's all to do with sensing when to shoot rather then purposely dragging and shooting if that makes any sense lol
Sorry for the long post

Last edited by H3RB4L ABU53 (2009-09-16 14:13:56)

Shimakaze
Through the valley of the shadow of death...
+6|5345|Vancouver, Canada

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:

Long post
Thanks. So, if it's not taking advantage of any game mechanics, then what's the difference between dragshooting and just shooting where you think will hit? Seems to me the dragging motion is redundant in this case. Sounds a lot like a placebo effect.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6649
If you dragshot, you don't have to stop your mouse. You can click the instant your crosshair goes over the enemy, while with 'regular' shots you stop moving your mouse before shooting. With a dragshot there is one less thing to fuck up.

also, dragshots encourage taking shots quickly, and faster = harder, which pays off in the long run as you'll learn to aim better.

Lastly, it's also easier to remember the movements you have to make. Muscle memory and all that stuff. If you see something X far away from your crosshair, then repeat that exact same move over and over again, you'll be able to instantly repeat that exact same movement the next time.

Last edited by Lucien (2009-09-16 14:39:29)

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Shimakaze
Through the valley of the shadow of death...
+6|5345|Vancouver, Canada

Lucien wrote:

If you dragshot, you don't have to stop your mouse. You can click the instant your crosshair goes over the enemy, while with 'regular' shots you stop moving your mouse before shooting. With a dragshot there is one less thing to fuck up.
Gotcha. That makes sense
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Noobpatty
ʎʇʇɐdqoou
+194|6350|West NY
It's kind of weird, I always kinda used dragshots before bf2 and before learning what they are. It's just for some reason easier at some times then lining up a scope.
TopSoulMan
Member
+3|5336
Dragshots are ALL about reactions.

Some people have a distinct ability to slow down time in crucial situations. I think it is called "clutch".... If you can't understand it, then obviously you don't have it. I sure don't.


-=As an official disclaimer, I possess no powers that can alter time=-
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6649

TopSoulMan wrote:

Some people have a distinct ability to slow down time in crucial situations. I think it is called "clutch".... If you can't understand it, then obviously you don't have it. I sure don't.
If you believe that being skilled at something is down to whether or not you "have it", then enjoy never being good at anything.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
tazz.
oz.
+1,338|6171|Sydney | ♥

Lucien wrote:

TopSoulMan wrote:

Some people have a distinct ability to slow down time in crucial situations. I think it is called "clutch".... If you can't understand it, then obviously you don't have it. I sure don't.
If you believe that being skilled at something is down to whether or not you "have it", then enjoy never being good at anything.
True in one respect, however... Heard of the term "Natural Ability"?




exactly.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6649

tazz. wrote:

True in one respect, however... Heard of the term "Natural Ability"?
There is no natural ability or talent for playing a videogame, neither is there one for say, playing a piano, or running a business, or any other skill invented by mankind.
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tazz.
oz.
+1,338|6171|Sydney | ♥

Lucien wrote:

tazz. wrote:

True in one respect, however... Heard of the term "Natural Ability"?
There is no natural ability or talent for playing a videogame, neither is there one for say, playing a piano, or running a business, or any other skill invented by mankind.
Ok.....


Do people learn to do things quicker than others....?


For example... It may take one person to learnt to dragshot/play piano/speak to a girly properly in 10 minutes of play time, where as for another person it would take months/years/decades.....


This is what i mean when i refer to "Natural Ability"

The ability for an individual to learn and action alot quicker than some other people.



kapish?
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6649

tazz. wrote:

For example... It may take one person to learnt to dragshot/play piano/speak to a girly properly in a very short amount time,
That does not happen.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
tazz.
oz.
+1,338|6171|Sydney | ♥

Lucien wrote:

tazz. wrote:

For example... It may take one person to learnt to dragshot/play piano/speak to a girly properly in a very short amount time,
That does not happen.
Yes it does.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
TopSoulMan
Member
+3|5336

Lucien wrote:

If you believe that being skilled at something is down to whether or not you "have it", then enjoy never being good at anything.
I bet you there are people better than you at soccer. Perhaps Christiano Ronaldo??? He possesses unique skills that were naturally born to him as well as developed by training. Same thing with Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, or Tiger Woods.

I can't jump high enough to dunk a basketball. I also can't hit a golf ball within three feet of the hole.

You aren't good at everything.......

TopSoulMan wrote:

Lucien wrote:

If you believe that being skilled at something is down to whether or not you "have it", then enjoy never being good at anything.
I bet you there are people better than you at soccer. Perhaps Christiano Ronaldo??? He possesses unique skills that were naturally born to him as well as developed by training. Same thing with Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, or Tiger Woods.

I can't jump high enough to dunk a basketball. I also can't hit a golf ball within three feet of the hole.

You aren't good at everything.......
OMFG top soul!!!   

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TopSoulMan
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

OMFG top soul!!!   

welcome!!

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Thanks!

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Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6649
People aren't born good at something, no matter how much you might want them to be. You can't blame the fact that you havent truly achieved anything on your wishful idea that you just weren't "born with it". You simply haven't done the required effort, and rather than oh gee I dont know actually trying, you find weakass rationalizations that take the burden off your shoulders.

Here's some very basic reading for you that might clear a thing or two up. Maybe more if reality isn't too hard for you to accept. Lol, tiger woods "born with unique skills". You dont know anything about the guy, do you?

Looking forward to your attempt at disproving the dozens of studies and tons of empirical evidence that has been found in support of people not being born with magical abilities
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globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6320|Graz, Austria
"Drag shooting" is basically just a skill you learn by playing a lot.

I had a time when I played Unreal Tournament '99 very often.
I then could run around with the sniper rifle head-shooting people unzoomed, from the hip constantly by keeping the cross vertically aligned the height of the enemies head and only dragging my mouse quickly to the left and right.

Later in CS:S I could only achieve something like that with the shotguns.

It seems that this feat is wearing off quickly if you don't play much.
Or maybe it's the mental degradation that comes with age.
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