BF2S Forums Does lowering the tax rate increase reveneue to the government?

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It depends on the social program, they all either increase unemployment by hurting commercial investment or create jobs by making what jobs there are already less valuable.

How do social programs make jobs less valuable?

Social programs make the difference in income between working and not working significantly smaller.

Social programs mean absolute wages are lower because of the tax burden.

I think you'll find that the difference in income between living off of welfare and having a job -- in most cases -- is pretty dramatic.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I know what you said. I don't really understand how anyone could possibly take issue with the fact that welfare should provide less than a job. I chose instead to look at the more controversial part of your statement, why people should continue to receive welfare after getting a job.

Flaming...  for the 3rd time.... I'm saying that sometimes, welfare pays MORE than a minimum wage job.  As a result of this, we need to reform welfare or the minimum wage so that welfare pays LESS than a job would.  We're actually in agreement here.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

relevant

The market is the only thing that even has a chance of accomplishing this.

Jobs that are worth a lot can be focused on profit if they so chose.

Depending on the skill set of the salesperson, he could very well be worth more than a teacher. I am not saying this is usually the case, I am only saying that there are quality salespeople and some truly incompetent teachers.

I agree with your last paragraph.  I can't say that I believe the market will ever actually accomplish what you're suggesting though.

Ah, sorry about that.  I misinterpreted your post then.

To answer your question, I don't think the market will ever actually make pay equal to skill because:

1) no society has actually done this to the degree you're aiming for

2) human nature always aligns prestige with wealth

Turquoise wrote:

Ah, sorry about that.  I misinterpreted your post then.

To answer your question, I don't think the market will ever actually make pay equal to skill because:

1) no society has actually done this to the degree you're aiming for

2) human nature always aligns prestige with wealth

1) No society has ever utilized a market to this degree either.

2) Prestige is based heavily on cultural values. I think it would be slightly more correct to say that is aligns with power rather than wealth, but wealth can be a means to power. There can be other sources of power though, such as religious, administrative, etc. If the cultural values are aligned with competence and ingrained at an early age then it could be possible.