BF2S Forums The BF2s Arms Contract Contest! - Best SMG/PDW [Round 3-SEMIFINAL]

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

FACT: When not deployed, the supposed foregrip impacts the trigger guard and makes firing impossible but for those with the tiniest of fingers, despite the fact this could have been averted by moving it forward only slightly.

I figure the retracted foregrip could double as a safety, making extension imperative prior to use. Dunno how functional that sounds really, but pressing one button isn't that big a deal eh?

FACT: The highest part of the pistol grip is obstructed by whatever the hell that thing is, making one stretch the index finger to even reach the trigger.

Fair point, doubt it would interfere too much though due to the compactness of the gun itself.

FACT: Near the stock there is a rail attachment and handguard, which I must assume were added purely for looks because they have no business back there.
I guess the sight that is right above the trigger is supposed to be attached to the foregrip or something, but still don't know what it's doing there. There also seems to be a rear, middle and front sight on the top, but since you made it, I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to be.

You are correct, they're there for aesthetic purposes.

Ioan92 wrote:

Noobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_pistol

zing


The Talon's place is in the pistol section.

What exactly makes my weapon a pistol? And again, a PDW is not limited to an smg or a machine pistol.

Ioan92 wrote:

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

FACT: When not deployed, the supposed foregrip impacts the trigger guard and makes firing impossible but for those with the tiniest of fingers, despite the fact this could have been averted by moving it forward only slightly.

I figure the retracted foregrip could double as a safety, making extension imperative prior to use. Dunno how functional that sounds really, but pressing one button isn't that big a deal eh?

FACT: The highest part of the pistol grip is obstructed by whatever the hell that thing is, making one stretch the index finger to even reach the trigger.

Fair point, doubt it would interfere too much though due to the compactness of the gun itself.

FACT: Near the stock there is a rail attachment and handguard, which I must assume were added purely for looks because they have no business back there.
I guess the sight that is right above the trigger is supposed to be attached to the foregrip or something, but still don't know what it's doing there. There also seems to be a rear, middle and front sight on the top, but since you made it, I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to be.

You are correct, they're there for aesthetic purposes.

Ioan92 wrote:

Noobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_pistol

zing


The Talon's place is in the pistol section.

What exactly makes my weapon a pistol? And again, a PDW is not limited to an smg or a machine pistol.

I'd say the simple fact that it is easily concealable / has a very small ammo cartridge and has a S/B/A fire mode.

It would most likely win pistols too.

Sub machine guns are simply larger and hard to conceal. They also have at least 30 bullets. While the PDW may use AR rounds while preserving the size of the SMG and adding accuracy and stooping power.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Two of those are carbines.

Ioan92 wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

War Man wrote:

M436. Talon is way too impractical with the foregrip.

For fucksakes man, shut the fuck up. Some carbines can be classified as PDW's. Ever heard of the Knights Armaments PDW. That uses a 6mm rifle round, and oh look it's a PDW.

The KAC PDW's round is a full centimeter shorter than the 5.56 NATO

So I guess the the G36K is a PDW then eh?

Red Forman wrote:

warman is like that electric bug zapper.  ya'll just fly right into it.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

The KAC PDW's round is a full centimeter shorter than the 5.56 NATO

So I guess the the G36K is a PDW then eh?

It is by the same standards that the LCR-9C and Sm436pdws are.

Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:

How do you know they fire AR ammo? It could be using it's own proprietary AP ammo. As said earlier, we're using a limited creation tool here so we can't make entirely new parts - such as special magazines.
My SMG was using an AR magazine. My shotgun uses an M16 mag, and my flamethrower is being fed by an ammo drum for an RPK. Use you imagina(aaaaaaaa)tion a bit, dude. Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is.

Ioan92 wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

War Man wrote:

M436. Talon is way too impractical with the foregrip.

For fucksakes man, shut the fuck up. Some carbines can be classified as PDW's. Ever heard of the Knights Armaments PDW. That uses a 6mm rifle round, and oh look it's a PDW.

The KAC PDW's round is a full centimeter shorter than the 5.56 NATO

So I guess the the G36K is a PDW then eh?