rammunition
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ok,  i currently have a gainward 4850 512mb and now need something with more muscle, as my brother is going uni and doing a degree in games designing and im starting a HNC in engineering and need something for solid works/auto cad.

ok im going to buy from ebuyer and my budget is £210, no preference over Nvidia or Ati, just the best card for the price. have had a look and the gtx 275, 4890, 4850x2 2GB  etc. all fall into my budget.

also would the newer cards be a issue for a PCI-E 1.1 bus???

also my PSU is 620W

as mentioned will be used for autocad, solid works, adobe cs4 pack, lightwave, maya etc. and gaming.

so for £210, whats the best card i can get???

btw my computer specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping @ stock
4GB OCZ DDR2 800MHz
Gainward 4850 512MB 512MB DDR3
2X 500GB Hard Drives
Hp dvd-rw drive
Vista Home Premium 64 bit
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6411|Finland

£223.99 Asus GTX 285 from OC.UK, can yoou afford? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =GX-190-AS

If not, an Asus GTX 275 for £149.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … ubcat=1410

edit: Oh and you might want to overclock that quad too. Just get a nice cooler for it.

GTX 275 + cooler might be best package for you

e2. It will work jsut fine on PCI-E 1.1

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-07-13 15:56:51)

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some_random_panda
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AutoCAD?

Isn't the Quadro line more for that stuff?
Defiance
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some_random_panda wrote:

AutoCAD?

Isn't the Quadro line more for that stuff?
Yes, but there's no point to buying a quadro. Stupidly expensive and, iirc, it's largely a difference in firmware.
Flaming_Maniac
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..yet a difference nonetheless isn't it?
The_Sniper_NM
Official EVGA Fanboy
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

..yet a difference nonetheless isn't it?
Which is mainly noticed in the srs bsns corporate sector.

For an entry level Auto-CAD college student, a Geforce card will do.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
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Considering my school computers run 8400 GS GPU's for CAD programs, I'm sure a GTX 275 is perfectly suitable.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6704|67.222.138.85
It just seems to me that if he is really getting this for productivity, he should get a workstation card. Now if this is really just an excuse to upgrade the gaming card (which I would back wholeheartedly) then a consumer graphics card will do just fine.
Defiance
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It just seems to me that if he is really getting this for productivity, he should get a workstation card. Now if this is really just an excuse to upgrade the gaming card (which I would back wholeheartedly) then a consumer graphics card will do just fine.
Workstation cards do terribly in games, whereas a gaming card will work fine in both. That, and a proper workstation card is far less bang/buck then today's gaming cards.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It just seems to me that if he is really getting this for productivity, he should get a workstation card. Now if this is really just an excuse to upgrade the gaming card (which I would back wholeheartedly) then a consumer graphics card will do just fine.
No, no, no.

He definitely shouldn't get a workstation card. Once upon a time there was a point to them. Now they are just pointless.

GTX 275 sounds good.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-07-14 03:38:39)

rammunition
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im still not sure on the 4890 or 275

the 275 is better according to reviews, but when overclocked the 4890 can be better than the gtx 285. also it has 1GB ram.


im stuck!!!
Morpheus
This shit still going?
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rammunition wrote:

im still not sure on the 4890 or 275

the 275 is better according to reviews, but when overclocked the 4890 can be better than the gtx 285. also it has 1GB ram.


im stuck!!!
http://www.random.org/coins/ ?

Well, I'd say get the one with better reviews...
EE (hats
GC_PaNzerFIN
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GTX 275 OC like crazy too Oh and has better stock cooler, if you value lower noise.
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13urnzz
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Bertster7 wrote:

Once upon a time there was a point to them. Now they are just pointless.

GTX 275 sounds good.
the difference, mainly, is firmware a drivers. i work for a civil eng. firm, and we have one workstation (for 3-d surveying) and 240 pc's.
quite a few of our laptops have quadro's, and we are running Autodesk 2009 + Microstation V8i. our PR dept. runs cs suite. more ram = win.
rammunition
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burni$te wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Once upon a time there was a point to them. Now they are just pointless.

GTX 275 sounds good.
the difference, mainly, is firmware a drivers. i work for a civil eng. firm, and we have one workstation (for 3-d surveying) and 240 pc's.
quite a few of our laptops have quadro's, and we are running Autodesk 2009 + Microstation V8i. our PR dept. runs cs suite. more ram = win.
oh yes, ram is an issue. all my 4GB gets hogged up. im getting 8GB soon as i defo need it.


my brother wants the 275 as he has struggled with ati drivers, espcially with cs4. i know there is a new plugin but he hates the drivers. i may go with the 275 on that basis. but for gaming i want a 1GB ram card.


btw, for £225 i can get a GTX285

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =GX-106-GW

worth it??

any news on nvidia price cuts btw???

Last edited by rammunition (2009-07-15 14:14:50)

GC_PaNzerFIN
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Do you game at 2560x2048 or something because 896MB Vram is enough for 1920x1200 with AA
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rammunition
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Do you game at 2560x2048 or something because 896MB Vram is enough for 1920x1200 with AA
lol, atm 1280 x 1024 (17" screen) BUT me and my bro will be doing 50/50 on a 24" HDTV soon so we can hook up our PC and xbox to it

Last edited by rammunition (2009-07-15 14:19:44)

GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6411|Finland

Well I don't think the additional vram makes much of difference anyways (its like 100MB diff lol) but if you can afford the GTX 285, I do recommend it.

edit: like I said before, you defo want to OC that CPU too

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-07-15 14:22:28)

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rammunition
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Well I don't think the additional vram makes much of difference anyways (its like 100MB diff lol) but if you can afford the GTX 285, I do recommend it.

edit: like I said before, you defo want to OC that CPU too
275 it seems then. i will overclock it, but its hot in the UK and my idle temps are 40-45'. i need a better cooler aswell
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6136|New Jersey

rammunition wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Well I don't think the additional vram makes much of difference anyways (its like 100MB diff lol) but if you can afford the GTX 285, I do recommend it.

edit: like I said before, you defo want to OC that CPU too
275 it seems then. i will overclock it, but its hot in the UK and my idle temps are 40-45'. i need a better cooler aswell
Ummm 40-45 C idle temps are not bad at all, you have plenty of headroom to OC.  Of course, you should get an aftermarket cooler, especially for a quad core.

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