Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6295|Truthistan
Here is a little story that might make it out of my small city. Cop chase for traffic violation, these happen all the time here. Guy gets out, is tasered?, two witnesses say the guy is on the cell phone saying I surrender in english and spanish, he was getting down when the cops shoot him three times, once in the head. This is looking bad for the cops. If I were one of the witnesses I would be scared right now.

the PD greeting card... happy mothers day, we shot your son in the head and he's dead.

Linkson this site are usually temporary so here is the full story

CORPUS CHRISTI — What began as a car chase over a traffic violation ended when a police officer shot and killed a man Saturday after he showed a knife, police said. Officers, who began chasing the man in the 4900 block of Ayers Street, used a Taser on the 28-year-old after he left his white Ford Focus on Port Avenue near Dillon Lane about 6 p.m., Capt. Tim Wilson said. The Taser didn’t work, Wilson said. The man turned toward officers and displayed a knife, he said. One officer shot the man three times, at least once in the head, said Wilson, who didn’t know where the other two shots hit the man. The man, who police didn’t identify, was taken to Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial where he was pronounced dead. Wilson said crime scene investigators found a folding knife in the grass next to where the shooting occurred. Witnesses said they didn’t see a knife. “He was screaming ‘I’ll surrender,’ ” said Marta Espinosa, 24. “Police should not have fired. He got down and was saying he surrendered in Spanish and English.” Witnesses said the man was using a cell phone as he ran toward a grassy area next to an appliance store on the corner of Dillon Lane. Police cars and officers surrounded him. Espinosa and Laura Cruz, 21, both saw the man holding only a cell phone, they said separately. “His other hand was open toward police, him saying, ‘Wait,’ ” Cruz said. “He was talking on a phone and kept telling them he surrendered.” Police would not answer other questions, except to say the man’s parents were notified. Wilson said interim Police Chief Mike Walsh would make details available Monday.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6706|North Carolina
I'll reserve my judgment on this one.  I don't trust the cops, but I also don't trust the witnesses.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7081|Great Brown North

Turquoise wrote:

I'll reserve my judgment on this one.  I don't trust the cops, but I also don't trust the witnesses.
this
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6748|Chicago, IL

Turquoise wrote:

I'll reserve my judgment on this one.  I don't trust the cops, but I also don't trust the witnesses.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6830|Global Command
No pepper spray?
No batons?

Just bullets.

That, my friends, is your tax dollars at work.
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6933

Shouldn't the cops have shot to bring him down rather than kill him? As in shoot at his legs? Assuming they were a safe distance away
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6839|Long Island, New York

S.Lythberg wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'll reserve my judgment on this one.  I don't trust the cops, but I also don't trust the witnesses.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5887

What began as a car chase over a traffic violation
When will people learn just to pull the fuck over?
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6681|MN

Gooners wrote:

Shouldn't the cops have shot to bring him down rather than kill him? As in shoot at his legs? Assuming they were a safe distance away
No.  Shoot for center of mass exposed.  They should not have shot him in the head unless that is the only part of his body they could see.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7017
no knife... and yes sir... no sir... see you in court... and nobody gets shot...
i also would like to see all the facts and see how this turns out...
Love is the answer
HollisHurlbut
Member
+51|6299

Gooners wrote:

Shouldn't the cops have shot to bring him down rather than kill him? As in shoot at his legs? Assuming they were a safe distance away
I grow increasingly irritated with the fact that every time someone posts a story about a cop shooting and killing a suspect some armchair LEO pipes up with this drivel despite the fact that every time the center-mass rationale is explained in detail when the gripe is raised.

Learn, dammit.

LEARN.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6295|Truthistan
Here's an update

Victim --> young in his twenties, had just served in the army, married, one young child and another on the way.

Cop --> less than 2 years on the force. Three cops on the scene, he was the only one to shoot. He shot three times.

Witnesses --> two women, one of them is a receptionist, both said there was no knife.

Dad of victim --> interviewed on TV said his son phoned him and he was on the phone with him the entire time. when the victim was being pulled over by the cop the first time, the dad said his son was scared because the cop already had his gun drawn. So he got back in the car and drove away. When he stopped the second time with other cops there he got out went to the ground and then started to get back up again and the cop shot him.

Sounds to me like this guy was just scared, not a threat.
I think my taxes are about to go up because of this.



And HollisHurlbut this PD has a bad rep for inaccurate shooting. there was one shootout between a number of cops and a couple of druggies at an apartment complex parking lot. Over 50 shots fired and no one was hit and not much report of property damage. I think everyone ran out of bullets and then they arrested the guys.
imortal
Member
+240|6966|Austin, TX

HollisHurlbut wrote:

Gooners wrote:

Shouldn't the cops have shot to bring him down rather than kill him? As in shoot at his legs? Assuming they were a safe distance away
I grow increasingly irritated with the fact that every time someone posts a story about a cop shooting and killing a suspect some armchair LEO pipes up with this drivel despite the fact that every time the center-mass rationale is explained in detail when the gripe is raised.

Learn, dammit.

LEARN.
...but, but.... they do it in the movies, right? 


Come on, just shoot the gun out of his hand, then turn around, light up a cigarette, and rattle off a snide one liner.
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6812|Gold Coast
hmmmmm


Don't really know what to say.
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Andoura
Got loooollllll ?
+853|6940|Montreal, Qc, Canada

KuSTaV wrote:

hmmmmm


Don't really know what to say.
... FUCK THE POLICE?
JahManRed
wank
+646|6929|IRELAND

There are just too many Americans and the price of life is cheep.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6484|Ireland
Moral of the story:

A: don't run from cops

B: don't have ANYTHING in your hands after you run for cops and they surround you with guns drawn

C: don't dress like a gangster/hood

D: speak clearly and calmly in English

E:  Don't pull out a knife, put hands in pockets, hold a cell phone, act all exited waving around turning and making fast movements

Remember, cops get killed all the time for being too reserve and hesitating.  They don't want to die.  You run from them and they go into fight for survival mode because they know the person is desparate and will to do what it takes to no be caught.  You get 6 cops chasing you with adreniline going and blood pumping and guns drawn, 1 out 1000 times this happens something is going to go wrong.

This is just darwin at work.  Adios Amigo.  Happy Mother's Day.... Your piece of shit stupid crimal son died of stupidity.
HollisHurlbut
Member
+51|6299

Diesel_dyk wrote:

And HollisHurlbut this PD has a bad rep for inaccurate shooting. there was one shootout between a number of cops and a couple of druggies at an apartment complex parking lot. Over 50 shots fired and no one was hit and not much report of property damage. I think everyone ran out of bullets and then they arrested the guys.
First of all, this tidbit isn't evidence of anything.  Second, what does it have to do with the issue at hand?
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5876|The Wild West

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Moral of the story:

A: don't run from cops

B: don't have ANYTHING in your hands after you run for cops and they surround you with guns drawn

C: don't dress like a gangster/hood

D: speak clearly and calmly in English

E:  Don't pull out a knife, put hands in pockets, hold a cell phone, act all exited waving around turning and making fast movements

Remember, cops get killed all the time for being too reserve and hesitating.  They don't want to die.  You run from them and they go into fight for survival mode because they know the person is desparate and will to do what it takes to no be caught.  You get 6 cops chasing you with adreniline going and blood pumping and guns drawn, 1 out 1000 times this happens something is going to go wrong.

This is just darwin at work.  Adios Amigo.  Happy Mother's Day.... Your piece of shit stupid crimal son died of stupidity.
next time you could get all the way up to "F"!

keep up the good work
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6843|Texas - Bigger than France
Running away from the cops is always a good plan.  Unfortunate this happened though.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6295|Truthistan

HollisHurlbut wrote:

Diesel_dyk wrote:

And HollisHurlbut this PD has a bad rep for inaccurate shooting. there was one shootout between a number of cops and a couple of druggies at an apartment complex parking lot. Over 50 shots fired and no one was hit and not much report of property damage. I think everyone ran out of bullets and then they arrested the guys.
First of all, this tidbit isn't evidence of anything.  Second, what does it have to do with the issue at hand?
Its not evidence of anything except lack of quality training with this PD.

There was another case here last summer where a druggie all hipped up on acid/meth running from the cops was tased and the pepper sprayed, that's all fine, they put in the back of the car, failed to monitor him, he had an allergic reaction to the pepper spray, went into respiratory arrest and died in the back fo the cruiser... Lack of proper training. once the guy is in custody the cops are responsible for his medical condition.

There was another case where a cop was shot with rifle at the police gun range by another cop. Close range gun accident went right through his vest and killed him. a frick'n training accident.

I'm begninning to think this cop, with only 2 years on the force F'ed up. The head shot was probably bad aim.

Not a murder, but something else. Death by Keystone Cop perhaps

New details are that the police say they found a folding knife next to the guy, no word on if the folding knife was unfolded or belonged to him.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6484|Ireland

Man With No Name wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Moral of the story:

A: don't run from cops

B: don't have ANYTHING in your hands after you run for cops and they surround you with guns drawn

C: don't dress like a gangster/hood

D: speak clearly and calmly in English

E:  Don't pull out a knife, put hands in pockets, hold a cell phone, act all exited waving around turning and making fast movements

Remember, cops get killed all the time for being too reserve and hesitating.  They don't want to die.  You run from them and they go into fight for survival mode because they know the person is desparate and will to do what it takes to no be caught.  You get 6 cops chasing you with adreniline going and blood pumping and guns drawn, 1 out 1000 times this happens something is going to go wrong.

This is just darwin at work.  Adios Amigo.  Happy Mother's Day.... Your piece of shit stupid crimal son died of stupidity.
next time you could get all the way up to "F"!

keep up the good work
I have something that starts with an " F " just for you.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5876|The Wild West
really?  what is it?
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6968

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Moral of the story:

A: don't run from cops
That's all.   

Best way to not get shot by gung-ho or inept cops.

Last edited by Ilocano (2009-05-11 17:02:48)

mcjagdflieger
Champion of Dueling Rectums
+26|6612|South Jersey
darwinism at its finest...DONT RUN FROM COPS, shut your fucking mouth and do what your told. best to spend a few months in jail even if your innocent and get out later than to be six feet under. i have no sympathy. its a shame, but the the victim did not act appropriately. if a cop has his gun aimed at you, why would you run? just drop to the ground, bam, confrontation over. you cant fix stupid

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