That the truth shall set you free.ATG wrote:
What comfort does the atheist offer?
What he said.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
Beautiful and insightful post.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
This.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
ya i help animals..and people also and i dont need a book or building to tell me its right or wrong...or to do it.ATG wrote:
That empty space in your heart that nothing can fill.
So, if your inner voice says: " smash that babies skull in ", and you resist because of some inne moral voice you cheat yourself?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
I bet he would also suggest that mankind is on top of the chain.wah1188 wrote:
Beautiful and insightful post.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
Precisely.ATG wrote:
So, if your inner voice says: " smash that babies skull in ", and you resist because of some inne moral voice you cheat yourself?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
troll idiot..goddamnit...Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Precisely.ATG wrote:
So, if your inner voice says: " smash that babies skull in ", and you resist because of some inne moral voice you cheat yourself?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
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Letting anyone corrupt your moral standards into believing anything less is the only path to self-destruction. Be it God, the church, the education system, or society as a whole.ATG wrote:
troll idiot..goddamnit...Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Precisely.ATG wrote:
So, if your inner voice says: " smash that babies skull in ", and you resist because of some inne moral voice you cheat yourself?
you can't be serious.
please tell me you are not serious.
That same reasoning didn't work out that well for the Manson family...Narupug wrote:
Um why do you need a being or a book to tell you what to do if you have your good friends logic and reason to guide you through life
Just like some points of religion, this rational doesn't work in the real world. It assumes everyone is psychologically stable as well as intellectually sound and that there is some common system of morality. There's a book called Conversations With God that echos your sentiments. If you haven't already read it, you'd probably find it interesting.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Letting anyone corrupt your moral standards into believing anything less is the only path to self-destruction. Be it God, the church, the education system, or society as a whole.ATG wrote:
troll idiot..goddamnit...Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Precisely.
you can't be serious.
please tell me you are not serious.
You tried to turn it upside down by using an obscene example you thought I couldn't say yes to, an example that would never come to pass in a rational person where generations of both reason and internal instincts preempt any such notions from entering the head. The answer is still the same however. If that is what you believe, that is exactly what you should do, just as every person who believes you are a threat to themselves and to mankind as a whole should put an axe in your head.
I'm sorry I should have punctuated better so that people like you can't come around and twist the meaning, just so you know I meant "your good friends, logic and reason, to guide you through life."chittydog wrote:
That same reasoning didn't work out that well for the Manson family...Narupug wrote:
Um why do you need a being or a book to tell you what to do if you have your good friends logic and reason to guide you through life
Of course, your total lack of punctuation leaves interpretation of your statement somewhat open. I'm assuming you meant "your good friends' logic and reason to" and not "your good friends, logic and reason to".
It assumes the psychologically stable and intellectually sound reign supreme. Without that basic premise, all else is moot - we're fucked anyways.chittydog wrote:
Just like some points of religion, this rational doesn't work in the real world. It assumes everyone is psychologically stable as well as intellectually sound and that there is some common system of morality. There's a book called Conversations With God that echos your sentiments. If you haven't already read it, you'd probably find it interesting.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Letting anyone corrupt your moral standards into believing anything less is the only path to self-destruction. Be it God, the church, the education system, or society as a whole.ATG wrote:
troll idiot..goddamnit...
you can't be serious.
please tell me you are not serious.
You tried to turn it upside down by using an obscene example you thought I couldn't say yes to, an example that would never come to pass in a rational person where generations of both reason and internal instincts preempt any such notions from entering the head. The answer is still the same however. If that is what you believe, that is exactly what you should do, just as every person who believes you are a threat to themselves and to mankind as a whole should put an axe in your head.
Don't be a fool, stay in school.Narupug wrote:
I'm sorry I should have punctuated better so that people like you can't come around and twist the meaning, just so you know I meant "your good friends, logic and reason, to guide you through life."chittydog wrote:
That same reasoning didn't work out that well for the Manson family...Narupug wrote:
Um why do you need a being or a book to tell you what to do if you have your good friends logic and reason to guide you through life
Of course, your total lack of punctuation leaves interpretation of your statement somewhat open. I'm assuming you meant "your good friends' logic and reason to" and not "your good friends, logic and reason to".
Looking at some of the world leaders today, I think we're fucked.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
It assumes the psychologically stable and intellectually sound reign supreme. Without that basic premise, all else is moot - we're fucked anyways.chittydog wrote:
Just like some points of religion, this rational doesn't work in the real world. It assumes everyone is psychologically stable as well as intellectually sound and that there is some common system of morality. There's a book called Conversations With God that echos your sentiments. If you haven't already read it, you'd probably find it interesting.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Letting anyone corrupt your moral standards into believing anything less is the only path to self-destruction. Be it God, the church, the education system, or society as a whole.
You tried to turn it upside down by using an obscene example you thought I couldn't say yes to, an example that would never come to pass in a rational person where generations of both reason and internal instincts preempt any such notions from entering the head. The answer is still the same however. If that is what you believe, that is exactly what you should do, just as every person who believes you are a threat to themselves and to mankind as a whole should put an axe in your head.
Believe me sir, the atheist offers no comfort.ATG wrote:
Do you have one?
That empty space in your heart that nothing can fill.
What comfort does the atheist offer?
What knowledge we agnostics can purvey?
These questions trouble me.
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Truth.usmarine wrote:
this game is stupid.
if god doesnt stop someone from putting a baby in the microwave.....or explain why he/she/it let it happen. then you are a fucking idiot for worshiping said thing.
and that god has a plan BS is not applicable. if he wanted the baby dead, he doesnt need a microwave for a painful death right?
fuck i hate religion.