m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK
Lewl you're off your nut!  If you haven't noticed it's you that devolved to generalisations.   Spouting off a list of terrorism acts stretching over 20-30 years may work to scare the shit out of the average American but here are some cold hard FACTS for you to digest.

As many Americans have been killed by lightning, accident-causing deer and allergic reactions to peanuts as terrorism:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen … 616813.ece

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council (NSC) Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was used.

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack (LOL)

You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

http://eyewashstation.blogspot.com/2007 … ttack.html

And as one website put it you're more likely to die from your appendix popping than a terrorist attack.  Face it, its not worth worrying about.

"We went thousands of miles east to go protect the Western Culture."

Protect from who? Saddam? You sure? I would more likely to put it down to the USA ensuring it maintains it position as the sole super power.  Since when was Iraq a threat?!  They're barely had enough food.

Were you building schools and hospitals before you destroyed them all? And then awarded contracts to to rebuild them to Halliburton et al?  Give me a break.  You're no saviours.

"we might capture them but they stand a good chance to be released because they are going to stand more of a civilian trail than a military tribunal."

I bloody well hope so.  We're not terrorists remember?

Last edited by m3thod (2009-02-09 13:38:08)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5897|Dublin, Ireland

m3thod wrote:

Lewl you're off your nut!  If you haven't noticed it's you that devolved to generalisations.   Spouting off a list of terrorism acts stretching over 20-30 years may work to scare the shit out of the average American but here are some cold hard FACTS for you to digest.

As many Americans have been killed by lightning, accident-causing deer and allergic reactions to peanuts as terrorism:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen … 616813.ece

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council (NSC) Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was used.

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack (LOL)

You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

http://eyewashstation.blogspot.com/2007 … ttack.html

And as one website put it you're more likely to die from your appendix popping than a terrorist attack.  Face it, its not worth worrying about.

"We went thousands of miles east to go protect the Western Culture."

Protect from who? Saddam? You sure? I would more likely to put it down to the USA ensuring it maintains it position as the sole super power.  Since when was Iraq a threat?!  They're barely had enough food.

Were you building schools and hospitals before you destroyed them all? And then awarded contracts to to rebuild them to Halliburton et al?  Give me a break.  You're no saviours.

"we might capture them but they stand a good chance to be released because they are going to stand more of a civilian trail than a military tribunal."

I bloody well hope so.  We're not terrorists remember?
Pure win.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6950

Vilham wrote:

K ajax have you ever tried to breath in air when its really heavy with water vapour? You can't, it chokes you.

And seriously lol. Its LEGALLY CLASSIFIED as torture. Whether you like it or not. So actually WRONG, you are acting like them. Doesn't surprise me though, there are totally morally deficient dicks wherever you go in the world. The funny thing is when people with no morals think they are better than the other people with no morals.
No I guess I haven't been waterboarded, but I have gone swimming. Same difference. Not even short term lasting effects.

I would gladly take a waterboarding compared to what they do.

I also find it odd that I've been knocked on for both having morals and now for not having morals, in these forums.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7069|UK

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

K ajax have you ever tried to breath in air when its really heavy with water vapour? You can't, it chokes you.

And seriously lol. Its LEGALLY CLASSIFIED as torture. Whether you like it or not. So actually WRONG, you are acting like them. Doesn't surprise me though, there are totally morally deficient dicks wherever you go in the world. The funny thing is when people with no morals think they are better than the other people with no morals.
No I guess I haven't been waterboarded, but I have gone swimming. Same difference. Not even short term lasting effects.

I would gladly take a waterboarding compared to what they do.

I also find it odd that I've been knocked on for both having morals and now for not having morals, in these forums.
lulz, yeah waterboarding is the same as swimming.

holy damn some people are morons.

yet again you miss my point. But you have amazing morals so nvm. I can't describe the fail at being a moral in your post.
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7067

m3thod wrote:

Lewl you're off your nut!  If you haven't noticed it's you that devolved to generalisations.   Spouting off a list of terrorism acts stretching over 20-30 years may work to scare the shit out of the average American but here are some cold hard FACTS for you to digest.

As many Americans have been killed by lightning, accident-causing deer and allergic reactions to peanuts as terrorism:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen … 616813.ece

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council (NSC) Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was used.

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack (LOL)

You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

http://eyewashstation.blogspot.com/2007 … ttack.html

And as one website put it you're more likely to die from your appendix popping than a terrorist attack.  Face it, its not worth worrying about.

"We went thousands of miles east to go protect the Western Culture."

Protect from who? Saddam? You sure? I would more likely to put it down to the USA ensuring it maintains it position as the sole super power.  Since when was Iraq a threat?!  They're barely had enough food.

Were you building schools and hospitals before you destroyed them all? And then awarded contracts to to rebuild them to Halliburton et al?  Give me a break.  You're no saviours.

"we might capture them but they stand a good chance to be released because they are going to stand more of a civilian trail than a military tribunal."

I bloody well hope so.  We're not terrorists remember?
Yes you are more likely to be killed by cop than a terrorist if you are breaking the law, you are more likely to choke on your own vomit if you are a drunk, you are more likely to ... etc etc..

Well maybe if you take a few courses on Political Science, Sociology, Foreign Relations, and History you might be able to research and dive a little farther by a few facts presented. So here is a little bit of a break down for you and your cold hard FACTS.

I listed a well known linage of attacks dating back 20-30 years to show you the continuing trend of an assault on western culture by Islamic Extremist. Islam is not the enemy of the West but it taken into the hands of extreme interpretation has lead to the violent expulsion of foreign and non-Islamic thought, culture and law. These radicals have been waging a specific war against foreign cultures [anyone else here remember the Taliban destroying the giant statues of Buddha?] and domestic moderates since the 1950's after the British, French and other European nations 'left' the region.

If you read some of the interpretations of the Koran it allows for "Jihad against the Near and Far enemies."  Depending on who you talk to the far enemy ranges from nearby countries to nations as far away as the United States, UK, Russia, Australia, etc. The near enemy is often the domestic governments of Islamic countries including Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, etc. Iran's current government is actually a result of a revolution into a more strict Islamic government from the 1970's. The current President of Iran was the most religiously conservative candidate among seven. Saudi Arabia does not readily allow westerners into the country and even then they must abide by very strict laws and rules based very closely on Islamic Sharia Law. Because of the precarious positioning of the governments, the people desire of a better life, and the teachings by a growing number of radical sheiks whatever actions are taken by the government generally validate the cause of the extremist organizations, this has been especially true in Saudi Arabia where the governing family has to use religious reasoning to validate their rule (which is according to them to protect Mecca and the holy shrines there in). Unfortunately for those in the west their use of the Koran and Islam to validate their rule also validates the ideas underlying the general principals of extremists [to protect Islam, the culture it produces, and it's holy relics, cities etc by whatever means necessary].

So by having Sharia [Islamic Law] validated and the general Middle East public supporting it you have populations supporting the actions of a few either a little or quite a bit. If you remember after most bombings and attacks against Western nations there have been videos of people dancing in the streets in the Middle East. So there is a general population support behind these attacks.

Now these few, extreme hard line Islamic fundamentalist are highly motivated by religious fever. They are funded and supplied by many people in the region. They have been trained over decades by several different organizations ranging from the US military, CIA, Russian forces, and more than likely Iranian and other religion states. They are capable of attacking many different targets, causing severe damage and chaos. That isn't fear mongering it is the truth. But we do we have international organizations combating them to decrease their effectiveness, abilities, personnel, and range. We are very likely to be able to reduce the number of attacks to close to zero percent, it is what we have professional agencies for.

Unfortunately that small percentage of attacks that will make it through either foreign or domestic [India, United States, London, Madrid, Athens, Africa, Baghdad, Afghanistan] will damage Western faith in government, public faith in economy markets, fear to travel abroad. All of these can lead to a slow and steady collapse of Western Culture or if an attack is large enough a sharp, quick decline in Western Culture.

On another note a lot of the products you buy are produced with plastic and other petroleum based products. If the West were to complete withdraw from the Middle East as some would suggest the cost for your simple daily supplies will increase drastically. All oil prices will increase [OPEC will probably increase price per barrel to whatever level they want, as has already been suggested several times by member states, domestic and non-OPEC countries will have such a demand for their oil that their prices will increase as well] causing the price of virtually everything to increase. Travel will cost more, items will cost more, food will cost more, water, electricity, power, almost everything you take for granted will cost more sending citizens of nearly every western culture into shell shock. They will stop spending money to protect themselves [look at the United States when just the price of gasoline and diesel increased, the price per barrel hadn't even made it into product cost yet] grinding their economies to a halt. If highly valuable trading countries economies grind down than the world economy will follow.

So the United States remaining the sole super power in the world seems like a very plausible argument but its position is already getting overtaken and everyone knows it. The United States has been keeping its presence in the Middle East while insuring that the Western Culture was protected from attack economically, militarily, politically, and through terrorism.

Now torture is not something that I would say is a good thing, but to release enemy combatants because they were waterboarded is absurd. Many of those captured were captured in combat action against Western troops, intelligence gathered by Western agencies, or sufficient evidence was provided that they were threats to the United States, military personnel or volunteers attempting to help the people. Your moral high ground is ineffective in combating a force that is intent on the destruction of your culture and civilization. It is good to be moral and have the high ground, it is absurd to release these people back to attack the West.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK
you must be nuts if you think i am going to read all that.

Last edited by m3thod (2009-02-10 01:20:02)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
rdx-fx
...
+955|6895

m3thod wrote:

you must be nuts if you think i am going to read all that.
Too many good points you can't wave away with bullshit, semantics, and doubletalk?

m3thod wrote:

Yawn.  Sorry, I don't care for your personal losses.  You didn't go thousands miles east to have a party, and more to the point no asked you and certainly no one invited your ignorant arses over.  Boo hoo.  Find someone who cares.
Holy hell, you're a self-centered arrogant little shit, aren't you?

What have you done to make the world a better place?

How much of yourself have you ever risked for the benefit of another?

Have you risked your life to save another?

Have you spent years of your life in a profession, not because it pays well but because it helps others?
(Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics, Police, Soldiers, Inventors, etc, etc...)

Have you done anything in your life that didn't have "What's in it for me?" as it's first, last, and only consideration?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK
I can't be arsed to read it, too long.  Laziness if you must.  Succinct.  Look it up.

Ironic isn't it that I'm a self centred arrogant shit when i refer to a war that was conducted for self interests.  Not that would ever register with you.

rdx-fx wrote:

What have you done to make the world a better place?
I am pretty good looking and fuck a lot of ugly girls to make them feel good.

rdx-fx wrote:

How much of yourself have you ever risked for the benefit of another?
I am not obliged/forced to work in an environment where this would happen.

rdx-fx wrote:

Have you spent years of your life in a profession, not because it pays well but because it helps others?
(Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics, Police, Soldiers, Inventors, etc, etc...)
The fuck would i want to work for peanuts for?  I'am an IT consultant i went to university for six years and knocked out 3 degrees.  I didn't do all that to 'help' people.  /lowing

rdx-fx wrote:

Have you done anything in your life that didn't have "What's in it for me?" as it's first, last, and only consideration?
I rezzed a couple people when i used to play BF2. Under fire too.  I was awesome.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Lai
Member
+186|6454

m3thod wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

What have you done to make the world a better place?
I am pretty good looking and fuck a lot of ugly girls to make them feel good.

rdx-fx wrote:

How much of yourself have you ever risked for the benefit of another?
I am not obliged/forced to work in an environment where this would happen.

rdx-fx wrote:

Have you done anything in your life that didn't have "What's in it for me?" as it's first, last, and only consideration?
I rezzed a couple people when i used to play BF2. Under fire too.  I was awesome.
Of course you aren't, but the fact that you choose not to says enough: you're a wussy!
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

Lel Method wins.

I only read the first page but his argument wins.

I like how he freely states that 'you aint got shit'.

Made me lul

BTW - Americans suck, Canadians are <3
Jesus Christ. Not another one. Did Cam put you up to this?
Malloy must go
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

Uzique wrote:

m3thod wrote:

We are not THEM.  Just because they are low enough to use torture it is NOT an excuse for us to use it too.  You like to call yourself the good guys, then why don't you fucking act like it.
Err, taking down a 'brutal' dictator  and then publically hanging him? Ding ding ding, welcome to the flawed mentality that rots the whole fucking affair.
Ding ding ding, round two. We didn't hang him, his own people tried and executed him.
Malloy must go
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

m3thod wrote:

.

rdx-fx wrote:

What have you done to make the world a better place?
I am pretty good looking and fuck a lot of ugly girls to make them feel good.

.
M3th. Fuck off and leave my mom out of this.
Malloy must go
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK

Lai wrote:

m3thod wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

What have you done to make the world a better place?
I am pretty good looking and fuck a lot of ugly girls to make them feel good.

rdx-fx wrote:

How much of yourself have you ever risked for the benefit of another?
I am not obliged/forced to work in an environment where this would happen.

rdx-fx wrote:

Have you done anything in your life that didn't have "What's in it for me?" as it's first, last, and only consideration?
I rezzed a couple people when i used to play BF2. Under fire too.  I was awesome.
Of course you aren't, but the fact that you choose not to says enough: you're a wussy!
wait a minute.

I have said enough.  if you stopped drinking you'll notice i stated i work as an IT consultant.  Last time i checked we don't go around saving the world.

Last edited by m3thod (2009-02-10 04:20:35)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX
"We went thousands of miles east to go protect the Western Culture."

Protect from who? Saddam? You sure? I would more likely to put it down to the USA ensuring it maintains it position as the sole super power.  Since when was Iraq a threat?!  They're barely had enough food.
Western culture was never under threat, western dominance of the ME was under threat.

And what was the USS Cole doing in the Persian Gulf anyway?
Fuck Israel
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6456|what

m3thod wrote:

wait a minute.

I have said enough.  if you stopped drinking you'll notice i stated i work as an IT consultant.  Last time i checked we don't go around saving the world.
And we don't go around fucking it over, either.

/another IT specialist.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX

Ridir wrote:

Now torture is not something that I would say is a good thing, but to release enemy combatants because they were waterboarded is absurd.
Then don't waterboard them, its simple enough.
Many of those captured were captured in combat action against Western troops, intelligence gathered by Western agencies, or sufficient evidence was provided that they were threats to the United States, military personnel or volunteers attempting to help the people.
Then you'll have plenty to charge them with. If not you have to release them, thats how the game works.
Unless YOU would be comfortable being locked up forever because some spook who doesn't even speak your language decides YOU are a danger to his country.
Your moral high ground is ineffective in combating a force that is intent on the destruction of your culture and civilization.
Actually moral high ground is the only thing we have in this battle, lose it and it really is us against all of them.
It is good to be moral and have the high ground, it is absurd to release these people back to attack the West.
Who says they are going to attack anyone?
Maybe you're going to attack the East, better lock you up.
Fuck Israel
Lai
Member
+186|6454

m3thod wrote:

I have said enough.  if you stopped drinking you'll notice i stated i work as an IT consultant.  Last time i checked we don't go around saving the world.
First of let me say that your choice of profession is still a choice. Despite that, there is nothing wrong with being a IT consultant. It is just that the comments you made say something about your attitude in life, regardless of your profession.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK

Lai wrote:

m3thod wrote:

I have said enough.  if you stopped drinking you'll notice i stated i work as an IT consultant.  Last time i checked we don't go around saving the world.
First of let me say that your choice of profession is still a choice. Despite that, there is nothing wrong with being a IT consultant. It is just that the comments you made say something about your attitude in life, regardless of your profession.
My online persona is not indicative of my behaviour in RL.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

Jenspm wrote:

usmarine wrote:

oh...


well you missed the fact the guy admitted doing it.  so ya, other then the guy admitting it we aint got shit.  but, then he figured out how to play the system so he gets to sit in jail for a while longer without trial.
I'm pretty sure I'd confess anything if I was "waterboarded".
so because he was water boarded he lied?  awesome assumption there from you all.  quite sad really.  i know in our little water boarding exercise in SERE school, you lied.  then, they verified that you lied, and water boarded you till you spilled the beans.  keep dismissing it for all i care.   i know how it works.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Lewl you're off your nut!  If you haven't noticed it's you that devolved to generalisations.   Spouting off a list of terrorism acts stretching over 20-30 years may work to scare the shit out of the average American but here are some cold hard FACTS for you to digest.

As many Americans have been killed by lightning, accident-causing deer and allergic reactions to peanuts as terrorism:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen … 616813.ece

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council (NSC) Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was used.

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack (LOL)



....and so on and so on.
Pure win.
I know you think you see eye to eye with M3thod but it's difficult on your knees. Of course it is rare to die from a terrorist attack. It's not the infliction of pain that necessarily motivates terrorists, it is the fact that they make people afraid. More people are afraid of terror striking their surroundings than any of the shit listed above so those statistics are null in void. I'm sure you are just as unlikely to win the fucking lottery but millions still play. Pure fucking fail.

edit @ M3thod - Shake this little lost following puppy before he follows you home and shits on your carpet (or your hard wood floor, depending on your preference).

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2009-02-10 11:09:29)

Malloy must go
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6950

Vilham wrote:

lulz, yeah waterboarding is the same as swimming.

holy damn some people are morons.

yet again you miss my point. But you have amazing morals so nvm. I can't describe the fail at being a moral in your post.
What point, that torture is bad no matter what method is used? I know that. I don't think our governement should waterboard or use torture. But that fact that they did it against a few scumbags doesn't really bother me because it's a sad form of torture, barely worthy of the name torure. Boyscout torture imho. When you look at other cases of horrible people doing horrible things, people describe all sorts of sick shit that should be done to them, always much worse than waterboarding.

And secondly, why do you British people seem to be afraid of insulting people directly?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

m3thod wrote:

I have said enough.  if you stopped drinking you'll notice i stated i work as an IT consultant.  Last time i checked we don't go around saving the world.
You don't?

You're not doing it properly then...

I am the Gordon Brown of the IT world!

"Not only have I fixed the machine, but I've also saved the world - errr, I mean the data off your hard drive..."
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6053|شمال

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

So what was it....afternoon tea with extra water?
well, it was part of interrogations back then (legal).  still, none of that should be relevant.  dude was set to go on trial ffs.  if this was the other way around, they would just cut off his head in yemen or some other shit hole.
Yemen? Wtf has Yemen to do with anything you prick...
Besides..Yemen is US ally, but little usballarine didnt knew that?

fucking hypocrisy
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6821|Montucky

usmarine wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

usmarine wrote:

oh...


well you missed the fact the guy admitted doing it.  so ya, other then the guy admitting it we aint got shit.  but, then he figured out how to play the system so he gets to sit in jail for a while longer without trial.
I'm pretty sure I'd confess anything if I was "waterboarded".
so because he was water boarded he lied?  awesome assumption there from you all.  quite sad really.  i know in our little water boarding exercise in SERE school, you lied.  then, they verified that you lied, and water boarded you till you spilled the beans.  keep dismissing it for all i care.   i know how it works.
...wow you got water boarded at SERE?

We got the shit beat out of us.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

Beduin wrote:

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

So what was it....afternoon tea with extra water?
well, it was part of interrogations back then (legal).  still, none of that should be relevant.  dude was set to go on trial ffs.  if this was the other way around, they would just cut off his head in yemen or some other shit hole.
Yemen? Wtf has Yemen to do with anything you prick...
Besides..Yemen is US ally, but little usballarine didnt knew that?

fucking hypocrisy
Yemen is where he was tried. I believe.

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