jord
Member
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oug wrote:

jord wrote:

oug wrote:

Ok so other than his name which probably has some nazi innuendo - what has this guy ever said on this forum that's racist? I'd like to see some quotes since you already got into the trouble of making a thread about him. Btw ignorance (about the 3 jewish heroes etc) doesn't make you a racist. Nor does hatred for a state. Or Zionism.
He does not hate the state as I already said. That is a mask for his hate of Jews and it is clear if you look at the rest of the things I pointed out. I didn't put just 1 or 2 reasons why he is a Nazi. I listed about 5, re read.
In the OP you only talk about his name, a time he supposedly confessed being a nazi in the past and the 3 heroes story.

So who say's it's a mask? You? And who decided that he only talks shit? You again? How about instead of making threads to ban him you try and debate with him. That's what this forum is all about after all. I'd like to see your arguments against his - instead of you calling him names.
Not not just me, several regular members, hence why this thread is here. If it was just me I wouldn't make a thread. You don't have to be fucking Sherlock Holmes to add it all up...

How am I supposed to debate a troll like that? He randomly mentions me in a thread complete with light insult and that's what I should debate against? Somehow I think I'll pass.

Why are you sticking up for him, really?
jord
Member
+2,382|6886|The North, beyond the wall.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Wow my own thread..

Jord want me banned because he disagree with me.. that's new

When someone run out of argument, they start the name calling.. and attack the messenger instead of debating the message. Jord and usmarine are the perfect exemple.  Only name calling. 

A part from the bad choice of name, i did nothing in this forum to break the rules...  Never did i promote Nazi ideology or racism or praised Hitler.

It's true, i'm passionate about the israeli/palestine conflict and the name i used a couple years ago did not help the nazi tag i received.

If i have to be banned, so be it.. It will be good for my productivity at work but if you ban me, don't ban me for anti-semitism or nazism because it's not true.. 

I hate Israel, not israelis.. 

Usmarine, simpleton Jord and friends hates Islam.. and all muslims..  If i'm guilty, they are guilty too..
Why were you temp banned for a disgusting anti Semitic post if you don't "break the rules"?

You cover it up be saying it's just you debating the situation in Israel, it's clear you are not a fan of Jews, far from it.

Edit, oh and I'll take that "Simpleton" insult mods, it is a troll ploy to get me to insult him back, so my thread is closed and the heat is off. Saw that one coming.

Last edited by jord (2009-01-11 10:13:21)

mafia996630
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AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Wow my own thread..

Jord want me banned because he disagree with me.. that's new

When someone run out of argument, they start the name calling.. and attack the messenger instead of debating the message. Jord and usmarine are the perfect exemple.  Only name calling. 

A part from the bad choice of name, i did nothing in this forum to break the rules...  Never did i promote Nazi ideology or racism or praised Hitler.

It's true, i'm passionate about the israeli/palestine conflict and the name i used a couple years ago did not help the nazi tag i received.

If i have to be banned, so be it.. It will be good for my productivity at work but if you ban me, don't ban me for anti-semitism or nazism because it's not true.. 

I hate Israel, not israelis.. 

Usmarine, simpleton Jord and friends hates Islam.. and all muslims..  If i'm guilty, they are guilty too..
well i am glad that cleared up by AutralianChainsaw, tbh i am a little surprised i haven't been called a neo nazi cunt after all  the isreali/Palestine debates i have had.

AutralianChainsaw has said he never promoted nazi ideology and therefore proof will be required by you, Jord, to show he has. I don't think your OP post is good enough to ban him .
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6915|67.222.138.85
After reading the most recent 20% of his posts going back 2 months the worst he has done is call people simpletons and call people fat. Considering he was being called a Nazi by you and others and that I would say being called a Nazi is probably the highest order of personal attack you can pull off, I wouldn't say he was necessarily the bad guy here.

You have zero objectivity.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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AutralianChainsaw wrote:

When someone run out of argument, they start the name calling..

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Jord and usmarine are the perfect exemple.  Only name calling.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

simpleton Jord
jord
Member
+2,382|6886|The North, beyond the wall.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

After reading the most recent 20% of his posts going back 2 months the worst he has done is call people simpletons and call people fat. Considering he was being called a Nazi by you and others and that I would say being called a Nazi is probably the highest order of personal attack you can pull off, I wouldn't say he was necessarily the bad guy here.

You have zero objectivity.
He gets called a Nazi after he initiates the flame war. Have a look at the main Gaza thread, I said nothing for about 10 pages, I never mentioned him once and he chimes into the thread with something like " What simpletons and muslim haters like Jord and Usmarine do not understand is...".

Troll-motherfuckin'-tacular.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6915|67.222.138.85

jord wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

After reading the most recent 20% of his posts going back 2 months the worst he has done is call people simpletons and call people fat. Considering he was being called a Nazi by you and others and that I would say being called a Nazi is probably the highest order of personal attack you can pull off, I wouldn't say he was necessarily the bad guy here.

You have zero objectivity.
He gets called a Nazi after he initiates the flame war. Have a look at the main Gaza thread, I said nothing for about 10 pages, I never mentioned him once and he chimes into the thread with something like " What simpletons and muslim haters like Jord and Usmarine do not understand is...".

Troll-motherfuckin'-tacular.
Did you get trolled? Did you get trolled in the worst possible way, to recognize it and still respond? Did you call him a Nazi, or did you report it and leave it alone?

People will get banned faster if everyone else ignores them. Scuffling with a couple of idiots in the muck is one thing, getting up on a soap box and yelling obscenities at people is quite the other.
jord
Member
+2,382|6886|The North, beyond the wall.

mafia996630 wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Wow my own thread..

Jord want me banned because he disagree with me.. that's new

When someone run out of argument, they start the name calling.. and attack the messenger instead of debating the message. Jord and usmarine are the perfect exemple.  Only name calling. 

A part from the bad choice of name, i did nothing in this forum to break the rules...  Never did i promote Nazi ideology or racism or praised Hitler.

It's true, i'm passionate about the israeli/palestine conflict and the name i used a couple years ago did not help the nazi tag i received.

If i have to be banned, so be it.. It will be good for my productivity at work but if you ban me, don't ban me for anti-semitism or nazism because it's not true.. 

I hate Israel, not israelis.. 

Usmarine, simpleton Jord and friends hates Islam.. and all muslims..  If i'm guilty, they are guilty too..
well i am glad that cleared up by AutralianChainsaw, tbh i am a little surprised i haven't been called a neo nazi cunt after all  the isreali/Palestine debates i have had.

AutralianChainsaw has said he never promoted nazi ideology and therefore proof will be required by you, Jord, to show he has. I don't think your OP post is good enough to ban him .
Well yeah I guess Ausch's Hypocritical, flawed and insulting post does "clear everything up". Well that sure was easy wasn't it. Damn had I known with one poor post he could destroy my case I'd have not started this thread and gone back to hating on those Muslims like usual. Apart from my various Muslim friends in real life of course

Last edited by jord (2009-01-11 10:29:09)

jord
Member
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

jord wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

After reading the most recent 20% of his posts going back 2 months the worst he has done is call people simpletons and call people fat. Considering he was being called a Nazi by you and others and that I would say being called a Nazi is probably the highest order of personal attack you can pull off, I wouldn't say he was necessarily the bad guy here.

You have zero objectivity.
He gets called a Nazi after he initiates the flame war. Have a look at the main Gaza thread, I said nothing for about 10 pages, I never mentioned him once and he chimes into the thread with something like " What simpletons and muslim haters like Jord and Usmarine do not understand is...".

Troll-motherfuckin'-tacular.
Did you get trolled? Did you get trolled in the worst possible way, to recognize it and still respond? Did you call him a Nazi, or did you report it and leave it alone?

People will get banned faster if everyone else ignores them. Scuffling with a couple of idiots in the muck is one thing, getting up on a soap box and yelling obscenities at people is quite the other.
I think I've lost faith in the "Report it and leave it alone" tactic. I'm pretty sure I've reported 2-3 of his trolling posts, and nothing comes of it. I think a nice, open discussion to the clear the air may solve some problems here. Lets be honest, as time has gone on since September the blatant insults have gone up like 400%.

Last edited by jord (2009-01-11 10:31:56)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6915|67.222.138.85
I seriously doubt they weren't at the very least deleted.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6728|Πάϊ

jord wrote:

Not not just me, several regular members, hence why this thread is here. If it was just me I wouldn't make a thread. You don't have to be fucking Sherlock Holmes to add it all up...
I really don't give a fuck who says it as long as they prove it. And btw being a regulad on bf2s doesn't make one's opinion any more true than it is...

jord wrote:

How am I supposed to debate a troll like that? He randomly mentions me in a thread complete with light insult and that's what I should debate against? Somehow I think I'll pass.

Why are you sticking up for him, really?
I'm guessing you're being too sensitive on this. Fuck it man, it's debating. Things get heated up, you're bound to be called names etc. Do you care? It's your arguments that win the case.

And I'm not sticking up only for him. It's a matter of principle. Aside from agreeing with him on the Israel - Palestine thingy! lol
ƒ³
jord
Member
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I seriously doubt they weren't at the very least deleted.
There are consequences to every action, when you deleted my post 10 minutes ago you also warned me. I sure hope get gets the same, if not one of those nice little personal messages. Perhaps something along the lines of "Trolling is not tolerated here, do not abuse the leeway you are given in this section. Seriously alter your posting style and start contributing".

Of course that's just an ideal for me, something similar could suffice though
jord
Member
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oug wrote:

jord wrote:

Not not just me, several regular members, hence why this thread is here. If it was just me I wouldn't make a thread. You don't have to be fucking Sherlock Holmes to add it all up...
I really don't give a fuck who says it as long as they prove it. And btw being a regulad on bf2s doesn't make one's opinion any more true than it is...

jord wrote:

How am I supposed to debate a troll like that? He randomly mentions me in a thread complete with light insult and that's what I should debate against? Somehow I think I'll pass.

Why are you sticking up for him, really?
I'm guessing you're being too sensitive on this. Fuck it man, it's debating. Things get heated up, you're bound to be called names etc. Do you care? It's your arguments that win the case.

And I'm not sticking up only for him. It's a matter of principle. Aside from agreeing with him on the Israel - Palestine thingy! lol
Yes things get heated and insults are thrown. There is a massive difference between an active debate and calling me names 10 pages after I have posted in some weird attempt at trolling or drawing me into a "debate". Though that's hardly the right way to go about it, as I'm/I did obvoisuly respond in kind. I should've known better, but I don't want shit said about me in threads that I'm not even involved in.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6915|67.222.138.85

jord wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I seriously doubt they weren't at the very least deleted.
There are consequences to every action, when you deleted my post 10 minutes ago you also warned me. I sure hope get gets the same, if not one of those nice little personal messages. Perhaps something along the lines of "Trolling is not tolerated here, do not abuse the leeway you are given in this section. Seriously alter your posting style and start contributing".
Yes, he has gotten lots of personal little messages.

Not to speak for other mods, but I add a personal message if I don't think the person on the receiving end knows what they did wrong. I believe most feel the same.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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The appearance of the law must be upheld, especially when it's being broken.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Big Trouble In Little BF2s
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|5958|شمال
WTF is this thread about?
Limiting freedom of speech? A crusade?
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...show me the schematic
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6613|North Carolina
While the freedom of speech doesn't apply to a private forum, it is a nice principle to stand by.

Debates do tend to be more interesting when all views are allowed -- no matter how despicable and ignorant they might be.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6746|Long Island, New York
I just find it funny how we have 2 or 3 people who suddenly appear when it's time to bash Israel, but are non-existant when things are relatively calm in the ME.

Makes you wonder..
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6860|USA
I am a little dismayed at the fact that I am labeled fulla hate and should be banned for hating Islam, while everyone else gets away with hating Israel and nothing is said.

I hate Islam, never said anything about hating Muslims, and I am labeled

You claim to hate Israel and not Jews, and this gets a pass.

Are you sure you guys are not active in the UN?

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-11 11:24:28)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6915|67.222.138.85

Turquoise wrote:

While the freedom of speech doesn't apply to a private forum, it is a nice principle to stand by.

Debates do tend to be more interesting when all views are allowed -- no matter how despicable and ignorant they might be.
qft

lowing wrote:

I am a little dismayed at the fact that I am labeled fulla hate and should be banned for hating Islam, while everyone else gets away with hating Israel and nothing is said.

I hate Islam, never said anything about hating Muslims, and I am labeled

You clamin to hate Israel and not Jews, and this gets a pass.

Are you sure you guys are not active in the UN?
I assume you're not talking about moderation anymore, because you have a very low warn:post ratio.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6860|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

While the freedom of speech doesn't apply to a private forum, it is a nice principle to stand by.

Debates do tend to be more interesting when all views are allowed -- no matter how despicable and ignorant they might be.
qft

lowing wrote:

I am a little dismayed at the fact that I am labeled fulla hate and should be banned for hating Islam, while everyone else gets away with hating Israel and nothing is said.

I hate Islam, never said anything about hating Muslims, and I am labeled

You clamin to hate Israel and not Jews, and this gets a pass.

Are you sure you guys are not active in the UN?
I assume you're not talking about moderation anymore, because you have a very low warn:post ratio.
Uhhhhhhh whats a warn: post ratio? and is being low good or bad?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6970

usmarine wrote:

point is, he came into this forum with that nazi name and what was the first thing he did?  make a thread about the jews and israel.  thats why you guys banned him yes?  right, so whats the problem?

oh and since he has been back, the majority of his time in this section is in israel threads.  go figure.

and his excuse for his name was an australian chainsaw company, which btw you guys didnt buy hence the reason he was banned.

then you let him come back with that name not even spelled correctly.

-------------------------

im no lawyer but i bet i could win this case in court
oh and FM, he came in this forum as a nazi, so therefore it is not a personal attack.  he made it clear he is proud of that.
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6316|Birmingham, UK
What was his excuse for his name?

Was it his Grandparents had died there?

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