True hero works in a bike shop.

2008-12-26 18:23:59

#26

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

m3thod wrote:
He has every right to query the 'herosim' in question.

Thanks to the brave people of the Switzerland special forces out in Narnia fighting for their country, wait.

I have the right to have a swastika as an avatar and praise Hitler for his great ideas. It doesn't mean that if I exercise that right I shouldn't be called up on being a cunt.

2008-12-26 18:32:10

#27

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6975|UK

double groan.

I am not having a pop at the guy. In fact i would prob shake his hand if i met him.

I only got involved here not to rag on the guy but to query your insistence of regarding him a hero. It simple notion of perception, to you working instead of outstretching your arm is heroism. Others just do not see it that way.

Inspirational? Definitely. Heroism? Debatable.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-12-26 18:34:36

#28

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6975|UK

jord wrote:
m3thod wrote:
He has every right to query the 'herosim' in question.
Thanks to the brave people of the Switzerland special forces out in Narnia fighting for their country, wait.

I have the right to have a swastika as an avatar and praise Hitler for his great ideas. It doesn't mean that if I exercise that right I shouldn't be called up on being a cunt.

Having a swastika as an avatar and praising Hitler would mean you are a class A cunt.

Debate, see section title if in doubt.

Next.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-12-26 18:35:44

#29

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

Protip: our army is doing a fair amount of humanitarian aid out there. We just don't like to invade every country that we don't like ...

also

m3thod wrote:
I am not having a pop at the guy. In fact i would prob shake his hand if i met him.

Inspirational? Definitely. Heroism? Debatable.

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2008-12-26 18:38:40

#30

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

max wrote:
Protip: our army is doing a fair amount of humanitarian aid out there. We just don't like to invade every country that we don't like ...

also
m3thod wrote:
I am not having a pop at the guy. In fact i would prob shake his hand if i met him.

Inspirational? Definitely. Heroism? Debatable.

Yeah cause we invade every country we don't "like". I'm glad my Dad just got back from his tours in Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Korea. We sure did kick fuck outta those countries we don't like...

Insert condescending "NEXT" Simon Cowell impression here.

2008-12-26 18:46:50

#31

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6833|Global Command

max wrote:
Protip: our army is doing a fair amount of humanitarian aid out there. We just don't like to invade every country that we don't like ...

also
m3thod wrote:
I am not having a pop at the guy. In fact i would prob shake his hand if i met him.

Inspirational? Definitely. Heroism? Debatable.

protip; before posting in bf2s have a fucking clue.

example; Cuba. We hate them and please tell me when the invasion was, I missed it.

2008-12-26 18:48:52

#32

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

I guess that went straight over your heads

*shakes head*

"We just don't like to invade countries that pose no danger to us"

happy?

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-12-26 18:57:02

#33

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6833|Global Command

max wrote:
I guess that went straight over your heads

*shakes head*

"We only like to invade countries that pose no danger to us"

happy?

fixed for ya Max.

2008-12-26 18:57:33

#34

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

max wrote:
I guess that went straight over your heads

*shakes head*

"We just don't like to invade countries that pose no danger to us"

happy?

Debatable, since who really is going to attack Switzerland? You're just... Well... There.

2008-12-26 19:00:33

#35

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

Good diplomacy at work there. War just wastes a lot of people and money. We prefer to buy stuff and not get crippled

ATG wrote:
max wrote:
I guess that went straight over your heads

*shakes head*

"We only like to invade countries that pose no danger to us"

happy?
fixed for ya Max.

wut? Apart from a couple of skirmishes in the late middle ages we stuck to our land and let the other counties beat each other senseless

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-12-26 19:06:35

#36

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6833|Global Command

max wrote:
Good diplomacy at work there. War just wastes a lot of people and money. We prefer to buy stuff and not get crippled

ATG wrote:
max wrote:
I guess that went straight over your heads

*shakes head*

"We only like to invade countries that pose no danger to us"

happy?
fixed for ya Max.
wut? Apart from a couple of skirmishes in the late middle ages we stuck to our land and let the other counties beat each other senseless

And made your banking system a loot holding place for crooked businessmen. Is that your main claim to fame? Besides hot chocolate, I mean.

2008-12-26 19:06:47

#37

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6823|Πάϊ

I guess what Max is trying to say is that there would be no forum topic if the guy had been born blind or if his disability hadn't been caused in the battlefield. That's the blunt truth. Some people here value the work of soldiers more than the work of others. End of story.

_ƒ³

2008-12-26 19:08:59

#38

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

don't believe everything Hollywood tells you. Our banks tell crooks to fuck off.

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2008-12-26 19:09:20

#39

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

He's a hero because he joined a volunteer force that has a high likelihood of being deployed to a war. He didn't join the intel, ceremony, musical, artillery, HR and finance, etc part of the Army. He joined a teeth group, and as such put himself in a high likelihood of danger. That's what heroes do. There is no factual hero, there is only opinions on that hero means.

2008-12-26 19:11:21

#40

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6823|Πάϊ

A hero is not judged by the danger involved in his profession. Rather in the nobility and worth of the causes for his actions.

_ƒ³

2008-12-26 19:11:42

#41

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6975|UK

ATG wrote:
max wrote:
Good diplomacy at work there. War just wastes a lot of people and money. We prefer to buy stuff and not get crippled

ATG wrote:

fixed for ya Max.
wut? Apart from a couple of skirmishes in the late middle ages we stuck to our land and let the other counties beat each other senseless
And made your banking system a loot holding place for crooked businessmen. Is that your main claim to fame? Besides hot chocolate, I mean.

Anyone else find it funny ATG is having a go about crooked businessmen?! Your country is run by one!

Here have Madoff to boot!

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-12-26 19:14:36

#42

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

oug wrote:
A hero is not judged by the danger involved in his profession. Rather in the nobility and worth of the causes for his actions.

Meh, it's all the same. And it's all different. It's just the same as criteria for medals. Some are for valour, some are for bravery, and there is precise definitions for both. Either way both come under the category of heroism. For me so does serving in combat. For you it might mean catching a paedophile before he rapes a small child. And for some people it might mean adopting an African Child for PR...

2008-12-26 19:16:29

#43

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6833|Global Command

m3thod wrote:
ATG wrote:
max wrote:
Good diplomacy at work there. War just wastes a lot of people and money. We prefer to buy stuff and not get crippled

wut? Apart from a couple of skirmishes in the late middle ages we stuck to our land and let the other counties beat each other senseless
And made your banking system a loot holding place for crooked businessmen. Is that your main claim to fame? Besides hot chocolate, I mean.
Anyone else find it funny ATG is having a go about crooked businessmen?! Your country is run by one!

Here have Madoff to boot!

And he probably has money in Swiss accounts.

2008-12-26 19:27:27

#44

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6823|Πάϊ

jord wrote:
oug wrote:
A hero is not judged by the danger involved in his profession. Rather in the nobility and worth of the causes for his actions.
Meh, it's all the same. And it's all different. It's just the same as criteria for medals. Some are for valour, some are for bravery, and there is precise definitions for both. Either way both come under the category of heroism. For me so does serving in combat. For you it might mean catching a paedophile before he rapes a small child. And for some people it might mean adopting an African Child for PR...

So every soldier involved in every war is a hero for you them? The Germans in WWI and WWII? The Brits in the Falklands? The Turks in Armenia? The Japs in China? The Ruskies in Afghanistan? The Yanks in Vietnam Iraq etc? The fucking crusades? Great fucking heroes eh? Great heroes all of em. Fought for what's right. Learn to distinguish. In war offensive is bad.

_ƒ³

2008-12-26 19:29:43

#45

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

Our banks, just like every other western bank check if the money comes from criminal proceedings and then in that case we will open a trial against that person or pass the information on to other countries. If you don't declare your Swiss account in your tax, well that really isn't our problem.

If you're looking for a place for your illegal money, I suggest Bank Leumi

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2008-12-26 19:32:00

#46

jord: Member; +2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

oug wrote:
jord wrote:
oug wrote:
A hero is not judged by the danger involved in his profession. Rather in the nobility and worth of the causes for his actions.
Meh, it's all the same. And it's all different. It's just the same as criteria for medals. Some are for valour, some are for bravery, and there is precise definitions for both. Either way both come under the category of heroism. For me so does serving in combat. For you it might mean catching a paedophile before he rapes a small child. And for some people it might mean adopting an African Child for PR...
So every soldier involved in every war is a hero for you them? The Germans in WWI and WWII? The Brits in the Falklands? The Turks in Armenia? The Japs in China? The Ruskies in Afghanistan? The Yanks in Vietnam Iraq etc? The fucking crusades? Great fucking heroes eh? Great heroes all of em. Fought for what's right. Learn to distinguish. In war offensive is bad.

Fought for what's right? What are you on about... Soldiers don't decide what to fight for, where, or when. Don't tell me to learn to distinguish with some vague point coupled with random examples. They are great heroes, yes. Especially the Falklands, since most of the British there were elite forces and are in contacts twice as much as anyone else.

"In war offensive is bad"

Doesn't make sense, I understand English isn't your first langauge so I won't rip you for it, just try and explain that one a bit better.

2008-12-26 19:44:11

#47

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7065

max wrote:
How does getting shot make you a hero?

i dunno. how does laying down for the nazis make your country feel?

2008-12-26 19:55:09

#48

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

usmarine wrote:
max wrote:
How does getting shot make you a hero?
i dunno. how does laying down for the nazis make your country feel?

i dunno. how does senselessly bombing the shit out of the civilian population of every country (and countries you aren't at war with too) you've been to war with in the last 60+ years feel?

WW2 isn't exactly a proud cheaper of our history but there wasn't really much we could do about it. Keeping our own population safe > getting the shit kicked out of us just to maintain the moral high ground.

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2008-12-26 19:56:04

#49

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7065

max wrote:
usmarine wrote:
max wrote:
How does getting shot make you a hero?
i dunno. how does laying down for the nazis make your country feel?
i dunno. how does senselessly bombing the shit out of the civilian population of every you've been to war with in the last 60+ years feel?

WW2 isn't exactly a proud cheaper of our history but there wasn't really much we could do about it. Keeping our own population safe > getting the shit kicked out of us just to maintain the moral high ground.

right. doormats. yes mr hitler, do whatever you want.

2008-12-26 19:56:26

#50

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6978|Canberra, AUS

Yet another thread turns into facetious "my country is beta than urs" tripe.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

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