BF2S Forums Is gun ownership good or bad?

Right, no one owns guns in Europe. Not in the whole country.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Right, no one owns guns in Europe. Not in the whole country.

See edit. Basically, farmers with shotguns and clay pigeon shooters are not the subject of this thread

I'm a eurofag and I liek guns.

deeznutz1245 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2656875.stm

comments on the page wrote:

I find this notion ludicrous. We do not need a nation of armed vigilantes (potential or otherwise) to ensure the peace, but rather active citizens who are willing to stand together against crime in their neighborhoods and cooperate with local authorities to apprehend criminals. This is the way to reduce crime. To draw a link between gun ownership and an overall drop in crime in the US is spurious and the article does not have enough evidence to point to a causative relationship between the two.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Right, no one owns guns in Europe. Not in the whole country.

Pulling a Palin there Flaming?



By the way despite my frequent posts on gun ownership being against it I do actually want the UK to ease up on licenses a bit. I looked at getting one not so long ago and it's pretty hard.

You want to know how I can be against allowing everyone to own a gun here but myself am strongly contemplating purchasing a rifle and license myself?

The answer is easy sir, for I... Am a hypocrite.

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Right, no one owns guns in Europe. Not in the whole country.

Since when was Europe a country?

He was probably trolling for teh lulz

The way I see it, banning guns is like banning the drug trade. Look how well that's going for the US. America's citizens are so used to using guns and rifles, that banning rifles outright would just lead us to something like the War on Drugs we are already fighting. Instead of drugs, we'd be seeing rifles and handguns making their way to the streets. Not to mention the costs of maintaining this "War on Guns" would send our already fragile economy plunging.

To combat the homicide statistics: It's about upbringing. I've seen some terrible parents in the U.S. that don't care if their excuse for offspring drops out of school, becomes a dope addict, and violently kills his dealer for not being on time. If the parents do not teach their child how to deal with stress and anger, they're going to probably murder someone at some point in their life, whether its with a gun, knife, RPG, etc. On the other hand, some parents will discipline their child well when he hits another kid, and he will grow up to be successful in life.

I'm going to take a guess, and say that Britain's parents discipline their child more than some of the redneck/Homey-G parents* in the U.S.

*I'm not saying that all parents in the U.S. are rednecks or home-dawgs, because my parents, and many parents that I know are not like that. I'm using an example

deeznutz1245 wrote:

JoshP wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2656875.stm

comments on the page wrote:

I find this notion ludicrous. We do not need a nation of armed vigilantes (potential or otherwise) to ensure the peace, but rather active citizens who are willing to stand together against crime in their neighborhoods and cooperate with local authorities to apprehend criminals. This is the way to reduce crime. To draw a link between gun ownership and an overall drop in crime in the US is spurious and the article does not have enough evidence to point to a causative relationship between the two.

However, it was published by the BBC which on these forums is held to a "can't do wrong" standard.

Pretty much, least it isn't held to a "can't do wrong" standard AND you have to pay to view the website. Unlike a certain crappy US source.

ghettoperson wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

BTW Yanks, as a Brit am I allowed to purchase a gun in the States if I'm living there, or do I have to be a US citizen?

Citizen, I asked like 12 times. But you can shoot, not buy.

Poseidon wrote:

As long as strict regulations and backround checks are used, I see no problem with someone who's mentally fit owning a gun.

oug wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Right, no one owns guns in Europe. Not in the whole country.

Crete is in Europe, and they got AK's down there!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/2548 … ff.jpg?v=0

I've seen a lot of security people with them, and rusty uzi's and the like, but do private citizens have them? (legally)

jord wrote:

Pretty much, least it isn't held to a "can't do wrong" standard AND you have to pay to view the website. Unlike a certain crappy US source.

There are 3 things I don't pay for. Sex, bottled water and anything on the internet.