Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

April 11th 1865

Some twelve thousand voters in the heretofore slave-state of Louisiana have sworn allegiance to the Union,
assumed to be the rightful political power of the State, held elections, organized a State government,
adopted a free-state constitution, giving the benefit of public schools equally to black and white, and
empowering the Legislature to confer the elective franchise upon the colored man. Their Legislature has
already voted to ratify the constitutional amendment recently passed by Congress, abolishing slavery
throughout the nation. These twelve thousand persons are thus fully committed to the Union, and to
perpetual freedom in the state--committed to the very things, and nearly all the things the nation wants--and
they ask the nations recognition and it's assistance to make good their committal. Now, if we reject, and
spurn them, we do our utmost to disorganize and disperse them. We in effect say to the white men "You are
worthless, or worse--we will neither help you, nor be helped by you." To the blacks we say "This cup of
liberty which these, your old masters, hold to your lips, we will dash from you, and leave you to the chances
of gathering the spilled and scattered contents in some vague and undefined when, where, and how." If this
course, discouraging and paralyzing both white and black, has any tendency to bring Louisiana into proper
practical relations with the Union, I have, so far, been unable to perceive it. If, on the contrary, we recognize,
and sustain the new government of Louisiana the converse of all this is made true. We encourage the
hearts, and nerve the arms of the twelve thousand to adhere to their work, and argue for it, and proselyte for
it, and fight for it, and feed it, and grow it, and ripen it to a complete success. The colored man too, in seeing
all united for him, is inspired with vigilance, and energy, and daring, to the same end. Grant that he desires
the elective franchise, will he not attain it sooner by saving the already advanced steps toward it, than by
running backward over them?
Concede that the new government of Louisiana is only to what it should be as
the egg is to the fowl, we shall sooner have the fowl by hatching the egg than by smashing it? Again, if we
reject Louisiana, we also reject one vote in favor of the proposed amendment to the national Constitution. To
meet this proposition, it has been argued that no more than three fourths of those States which have not
attempted secession are necessary to validly ratify the amendment. I do not commit myself against this,
further than to say that such a ratification would be questionable, and sure to be persistently questioned;
while a ratification by three-fourths of all the States would be unquestioned and unquestionable

On April 11, Booth was in the crowd that heard Lincoln speaking outside the White House and became infuriated when he heard the president suggest that certain freed slaves should be given the right to vote. In Booth's opinion, it was bad enough that Lincoln planned to free the slaves; it was against God's will that blacks should be able to read and to vote. He summoned his co-conspirators and angrily told them that he now planned to assassinate Lincoln.

When they learned that Lincoln and General Grant would be attending Ford's Theater on April 14, Good Friday, they unanimously decided that would be the night to kill both the President and his leading military officer.

Although the conspirators learned later that day that General Grant had changed his plans and would not be attending the play, Booth insisted that they would follow through with the plan to assassinate Lincoln at the theater. Atzerodt was assigned to kill Vice President Andrew Johnson in his quarters at the Kirkwood House; Powell and Herold would murder Secretary of State William Seward. All the murders were to take place at 10:15 that night.

After he had fortified himself with a drink at nearby saloon, Booth entered the front of Ford's Theater around 10:07 and began to make his way toward the box where the Lincolns were sitting with Clara Harris and Henry Rathbone. Audience laughter at the comedy Our American Cousin helped to conceal the sound of Booth's opening the door to the box. Lincoln's bodyguard, John Parker of the Metropolitan Police Force, had momentarily left his post, so Booth faced no resistance as he withdrew his single-shot derringer and fired point-blank at the back of Lincoln's head. When Rathbone rose to struggle with him, Booth stabbed him in the arm with a hunting knife.

Booth jumped the approximately eleven feet to the stage and snapped the fibula in his left leg just above the ankle. Brandishing his knife and shouting, "Sic semper tyrannis" (Thus always to tyrants), Booth limped across the stage in front of over a thousand shocked audience members and made his way to the horse that awaited him out the back door.

President Lincoln never regained consciousness and died at 7:22 on the morning of April 15. Powell managed to stab Secretary of State Seward, but did not kill him. Atzerodt did not follow through on his assignment to assassinate Vice President Johnson. Booth had his broken leg set and splinted by Dr. Samuel Mudd, then, in the company of Herold, headed for refuge in the South.
A man was once shot and killed for suggesting that Blacks should vote. Yesterday we elected an African American to the Presidency. It's going to take a little more than tinypic to dampen my spirits.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Then don't participate in threads that revolve around it.
The very fact that there are threads about his race means racism is clearly not dead, politically or otherwise. If it was it wouldn't have been brought up by this forum or anyone else concerning whether or not it helped or hurt him, because everyone acknowledges it made some difference. By showing contempt at the very notion of bringing up his race I am the least racist of all you wanna-be pundits.

/superior
What a joke. You keep hanging around topics you supposedly are sick of hearing about. Keep it up junior.
Reading people talking about racism is way more fun than dealing with the assload of coding and shitty group members junior had for homework. Procrastination can make a lot of things interesting.

edit: and to your most recent point, it's not something to be proud of that we did a good job of playing civil rights catch up. We finally met the status quo, woo hoo. Not going to break out the champagne yet.

+ often used but still valid argument of minorities not voting for McCain because he is white as whites not voting for Obama because he's black.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Are you still here? Go do your homework.

Status quo..lol. I don't think so junior.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7011|67.222.138.85

Kmarion wrote:

Are you still here? Go do your homework.

Status quo..lol. I don't think so junior.
Right, it should be a special occasion when a black person is elected into public office.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Are you still here? Go do your homework.

Status quo..lol. I don't think so junior.
Right, it should be a special occasion when a black person is elected into public office.
It is when it has never happened before. Surely it means something. I'm not saying throw a party every time from here on out. But it takes a special kind of asshole to downplay this benchmark.
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usmarine
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but he is half white also.
Roc18
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usmarine wrote:

but he is half white also.
Wow really?


FM, this deserves some recognition.
https://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/Mystline18/various/n1379190849_30477455_9945.jpg
God Save the Queen
Banned
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usmarine wrote:

but he is half white also.
most black people have white in em somewhere
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

Roc18 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

but he is half white also.
Wow really?


FM, this deserves some recognition.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108 … 5_9945.jpg
He's only known two of them.
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usmarine
Banned
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God Save the Queen wrote:

usmarine wrote:

but he is half white also.
most black people have white in em somewhere
yes but you know as well as i do, that is looked down upon in a lot of circles in the black community.  i have heard it myself as i am sure you have.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7011|67.222.138.85

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Are you still here? Go do your homework.

Status quo..lol. I don't think so junior.
Right, it should be a special occasion when a black person is elected into public office.
It is when it has never happened before. Surely it means something. I'm not saying throw a party every time from here on out. But it takes a special kind of asshole to downplay this benchmark.
Well I must admit I am pretty damn special.

Playing it up is possibly the most racist thing to do at the moment short of a lynching. Are black people inferior somehow? Do they not make speeches as well as white people? Do they have better economic plans than white people?

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.

edit: and K you only know what, 5? 6? /44? lol, that kind of ratio is close to the actual percentage of blacks in the U.S.
God Save the Queen
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depends.  All the black dudes I know go after the "yellow bones"
Roc18
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+655|6095|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
The only ones that say that are the ignorant people, you seriously think celebrating the first black president elected to the highest seat of power in the most powerful country in the world should be downplayed?
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7047|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
I thought it was dead funny when they actually showed the response of the McCain crowd when he said Obama would be his president and you could hear the hatchet faced bitches whining "never!" sounded like the DUP here,  WASP cunts...
MGS3_GrayFox
Member
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


Right, it should be a special occasion when a black person is elected into public office.
It is when it has never happened before. Surely it means something. I'm not saying throw a party every time from here on out. But it takes a special kind of asshole to downplay this benchmark.
Well I must admit I am pretty damn special.

Playing it up is possibly the most racist thing to do at the moment short of a lynching. Are black people inferior somehow? Do they not make speeches as well as white people? Do they have better economic plans than white people?

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.

edit: and K you only know what, 5? 6? /44? lol, that kind of ratio is close to the actual percentage of blacks in the U.S.
Well, we just learned that black people do better speeches than white people.

And since there are more black rappers than white rappers, they have better economic plans (and plans being cd's).
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Right, it should be a special occasion when a black person is elected into public office.
It is when it has never happened before. Surely it means something. I'm not saying throw a party every time from here on out. But it takes a special kind of asshole to downplay this benchmark.
Well I must admit I am pretty damn special.

Playing it up is possibly the most racist thing to do at the moment short of a lynching. Are black people inferior somehow? Do they not make speeches as well as white people? Do they have better economic plans than white people?

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
Taking pride in taking steps to move past racisim is just shy of lynching .. weak. I'm not saying he beat him because he was black. I'm saying.. and oh yea, it's also pretty cool that the people of this country can look beyond color.

I'm waiting for you to list all of the other modern democracy's that have elected minorities to lead their country.
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Flaming_Maniac
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Roc18 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
The only ones that say that are the ignorant people, you seriously think celebrating the first black president elected to the highest seat of power in the most powerful country in the world should be downplayed?
1) proveit

2) I thought we were past this. It should be ignored.
Roc18
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usmarine wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

usmarine wrote:

but he is half white also.
most black people have white in em somewhere
yes but you know as well as i do, that is looked down upon in a lot of circles in the black community.  i have heard it myself as i am sure you have.
Hmm try speaking for yourself. These circles in the black "community" don't represent what I say about white people.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6758|The Twilight Zone

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
Ye I agree, saying blacks won is just BS. Those "blacks that won" are also consisted of whites. Obama won thats it.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7011|67.222.138.85

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It is when it has never happened before. Surely it means something. I'm not saying throw a party every time from here on out. But it takes a special kind of asshole to downplay this benchmark.
Well I must admit I am pretty damn special.

Playing it up is possibly the most racist thing to do at the moment short of a lynching. Are black people inferior somehow? Do they not make speeches as well as white people? Do they have better economic plans than white people?

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
Taking pride in taking steps to move past racisim is just shy of lynching .. weak. I'm not saying he beat him because he was black. I'm saying.. and oh yea, it's also pretty cool that the people of this country can look beyond color.

I'm waiting for you to list all of the other modern democracy's that have elected minorities to lead their country.
Did you forget something? What are you saying?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany

Right off the top of my head. If Hillary won you would be able to see the bra bonfires from space.
God Save the Queen
Banned
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I thought women were the majority population.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7011|67.222.138.85

Roc18 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

most black people have white in em somewhere
yes but you know as well as i do, that is looked down upon in a lot of circles in the black community.  i have heard it myself as i am sure you have.
Hmm try speaking for yourself. These circles in the black "community" don't represent what I say about white people.
and Obama is no reflection on you because of your shared skin color race.

People are individuals. When the nation understands this, that is when racism will be dead.

God Save the Queen wrote:

I thought women were the majority population.
Black presidents: 1/44
Female presidents: 0/44

Even more appalling, considering the ratios of females:total population and blacks:total population.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6758|The Twilight Zone

God Save the Queen wrote:

I thought women were the majority population.
Well if you put all the shemales into consideration, then they are.

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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Obama won because Obama bested McCain. Blacks did not "beat" whites for once, Obama beat McCain.
The only ones that say that are the ignorant people, you seriously think celebrating the first black president elected to the highest seat of power in the most powerful country in the world should be downplayed?
1) proveit

2) I thought we were past this. It should be ignored.
Why do you think you have to ignore something in order to move beyond the bigotry that is associated with it? You can still be different without treating someone as less of a man. Pretending to ignore obvious differences all together is insulting. That is not how you go about accepting diversity.
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6758|The Twilight Zone

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

usmarine wrote:


yes but you know as well as i do, that is looked down upon in a lot of circles in the black community.  i have heard it myself as i am sure you have.
Hmm try speaking for yourself. These circles in the black "community" don't represent what I say about white people.
and Obama is no reflection on you because of your shared skin color race.

People are individuals. When the nation understands this, that is when racism will be dead.

God Save the Queen wrote:

I thought women were the majority population.
Black presidents: 1/44
Female presidents: 0/44

Even more appalling, considering the ratios of females:total population and blacks:total population.
I completely agree here +1
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