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http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202 … 00.html.dk


interesting.



caught this today



McCain is getting swiftboated.  Irony.
ATG
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Huh, Gunbslinger?

I know you are historically challenged, but the Vietnam war ended about 35 years ago.

kthnxbai
God Save the Queen
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guess you didnt read the article or view the 4 minute video

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ATG
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" swift boated"

the act of slandering a war hero with mostly baseless claims.

source,  ATGedia

This geezer is lasts weeks news.
I deemed it NTW,  or, NOT THREAD WORTHY.
God Save the Queen
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serious business.
Mason4Assassin444
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McCain's whole career is based off "I was tortured".


So we got a sympathy vote and a uterus vote. Good luck with that.

"My friends, I am so full of shit I fart out of my ears." -John "feel sorry for me one more time" McCain
Spearhead
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It wouldnt be such a big deal if he wouldnt make it a campaign issue, but he is. 

Also the comments on that article.... some of them are okay but others are downright disrespectful.  The man said he wrote it only because people kept asking him about what he thought about John McCain.  Jesus christ, take it or leave it.

thanks for the link gs
LividBovine
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Phillip Butler wrote:

After his repatriation in 1973 he earned a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of California at San Diego and became a Navy Organizational Effectiveness consultant. He completed his Navy career in 1981 as a professor of management at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. He is now a peace and justice activist with Veterans for Peace.
I am sure he is not biased much.

In regards to not being special for being a POW.  He doesn't claim to be special for it.  He just has said it was a life changing event for him.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
FEOS
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

McCain's whole career is based off "I was tortured".
That and 22 years in the Senate. But don't bother with those pesky facts.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Braddock
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If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-09-16 05:25:40)

Lotta_Drool
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Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Yeah, he is as bad as those drivers in Iraq that hit an IED.

You are a fucking idiot.
Mason4Assassin444
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Yeah, he is as bad as those drivers in Iraq that hit an IED.

You are a fucking idiot.
What else did MCCain do besides get shot down and tortured? Oh yeah, won his senate seat for 26 years. Because he was shot down and tortured.

If you vote for him based on his campaign so far, you sir are the fucking idiot.
Lotta_Drool
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Yeah, he is as bad as those drivers in Iraq that hit an IED.

You are a fucking idiot.
What else did MCCain do besides get shot down and tortured? Oh yeah, won his senate seat for 26 years. Because he was shot down and tortured.

If you vote for him based on his campaign so far, you sir are the fucking idiot.
Liberals really hate people that serve with distinction and honor.  He should have been a community organizer FTW.
m3thod
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...how about he's shit and he's republican and he's old and he's gay and he's dumb and he's not fit for the job?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Lotta_Drool
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m3thod wrote:

...how about he's shit and he's republican and he's old and he's gay and he's dumb and he's not fit for the job?
How about he is a republican and a sell out to his country because he won't do anything about illegal immigration, the exporting of US jobs, and the corrupt banking system.
m3thod
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Racist.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Mason4Assassin444
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


Yeah, he is as bad as those drivers in Iraq that hit an IED.

You are a fucking idiot.
What else did MCCain do besides get shot down and tortured? Oh yeah, won his senate seat for 26 years. Because he was shot down and tortured.

If you vote for him based on his campaign so far, you sir are the fucking idiot.
Liberals really hate people that serve with distinction and honor.  He should have been a community organizer FTW.
Yep. Served with distinction and honor. Has no idea how the economy works and needs his VP to change his diaper.


Kerry served with distinction and honor. But he didn't get tortured so you know. Fair game.
Lotta_Drool
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

What else did MCCain do besides get shot down and tortured? Oh yeah, won his senate seat for 26 years. Because he was shot down and tortured.

If you vote for him based on his campaign so far, you sir are the fucking idiot.
Liberals really hate people that serve with distinction and honor.  He should have been a community organizer FTW.
Yep. Served with distinction and honor. Has no idea how the economy works and needs his VP to change his diaper.


Kerry served with distinction and honor. But he didn't get tortured so you know. Fair game.
Kerry, the man who go others to throw their medals over the wall and wasn't willing to do it himself?  The man who personally went after an unarmed civilian boy and gunned him down just to say he got a kill and then returned home to call US soldiers baby killers in congress?  John Fucking Kerry the guy who was so obcessed with John Fucking Kennedy that he changed his middle name and went became a swift boater to live the dream.  John the swift boat captain that put himself in for purple heart after purple heart for noncombat related toe stubbing injuries? 

Liberals say some funny shit.  I think I know what kind of an officer Kerry was because I trained and worked with plenty of officers.

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God Save the Queen
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I smashed my hand against a 240 on patrol one time, blood was everywhere.
Mason4Assassin444
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


Liberals really hate people that serve with distinction and honor.  He should have been a community organizer FTW.
Yep. Served with distinction and honor. Has no idea how the economy works and needs his VP to change his diaper.


Kerry served with distinction and honor. But he didn't get tortured so you know. Fair game.
Kerry, the man who go others to throw their medals over the wall and wasn't willing to do it himself?  The man who personally went after an unarmed civilian boy and gunned him down just to say he got a kill and then returned home to call US soldiers baby killers in congress?  John Fucking Kerry the guy who was so obcessed with John Fucking Kennedy that he changed his middle name and went became a swift boater to live the dream.  John the swift boat captain that put himself in for purple heart after purple heart for noncombat related toe stubbing injuries? 

Liberals say some funny shit.  I think I know what kind of an officer Kerry was because I trained and worked with plenty of officers.
Liberals have a sense of humor. And a brain.

And your a service man so you automatically know how shit went down in Vietnam. There were 600 other POW's. Would you vote for any of them? You know, because they were tortured?

Now give me McCain's stance on issues. Give me his plan. Oh yeah. There isn't one. Just talking points.

If Obama served and was captured, and his wife waited for him all those years only to be kicked to the curb for the rich trophy wife, you Republicans would be all over it.

Hypocrisy in politics is eternal but the Republicans have gone to a whole new level.

My war hero is better than your war hero because....

"Fundamentals of economy are strong"....."because I haven't lost not one of my 9 houses".

GG. Cast your vote for distinction and honor.
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Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Thats pretty ballsy for a fucking ginger kid. Who are you to deem him as a failure? Now whether or not you even have the sack to put yourself in a situation like the one he was in is speculation because I don't know you, but until you actually do it try to refrain. You sit there in your comfort zone and criticize a man who risked his life for someone other than himself. Whether you believe in the cause or not it is irrelevant because it is still admirable. I don't particularly care for the man's politics myself but I wil be fucking damned if I have to sit here and listen to a spoiled little bitch call a man a failure because he gave it his best and was shot down. I have a Purple Heart myself Braddock, am I a failure? Fuck you.
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Mason4Assassin444
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deeznutz1245 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Thats pretty ballsy for a fucking ginger kid. Who are you to deem him as a failure? Now whether or not you even have the sack to put yourself in a situation like the one he was in is speculation because I don't know you, but until you actually do it try to refrain. You sit there in your comfort zone and criticize a man who risked his life for someone other than himself. Whether you believe in the cause or not it is irrelevant because it is still admirable. I don't particularly care for the man's politics myself but I wil be fucking damned if I have to sit here and listen to a spoiled little bitch call a man a failure because he gave it his best and was shot down. I have a Purple Heart myself Braddock, am I a failure? Fuck you.
His service is admirable. Along with 600 other unnamed POW's. Too bad his return wasn't admirable.

"Fuck you bitch, I want the rich chick."
jord
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You should have an award for getting out uninjured. Don't you guys joke about Purple hearts (Going off talking to other Us marines)...
deeznutz1245
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

If I were an American I'd prefer a candidate who could make it through a war without getting shot down, captured, tortured or injured... you know, an actual war hero.

Not some guy who couldn't get the job done and subsequently decided to embark on a political career off of the back of his military failures.
Thats pretty ballsy for a fucking ginger kid. Who are you to deem him as a failure? Now whether or not you even have the sack to put yourself in a situation like the one he was in is speculation because I don't know you, but until you actually do it try to refrain. You sit there in your comfort zone and criticize a man who risked his life for someone other than himself. Whether you believe in the cause or not it is irrelevant because it is still admirable. I don't particularly care for the man's politics myself but I wil be fucking damned if I have to sit here and listen to a spoiled little bitch call a man a failure because he gave it his best and was shot down. I have a Purple Heart myself Braddock, am I a failure? Fuck you.
His service is admirable. Along with 600 other unnamed POW's. Too bad his return wasn't admirable.

"Fuck you bitch, I want the rich chick."
And I am not taking anything away from any of the other POW's. I think anyone whom is captured and subjected to torture has displayed a great level of fortitude and loyalty. But thats just it though, all of them including McCain. My problem is with Braddock so brilliantly announcing that they are failures. Now in fairness to him he only said McCain was but that is only because he doesn't like him. By stating a man who is shot down or over powered in combat is a failure, or has come short of his objection is fucking rude.
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Mason4Assassin444
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deeznutz1245 wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:


Thats pretty ballsy for a fucking ginger kid. Who are you to deem him as a failure? Now whether or not you even have the sack to put yourself in a situation like the one he was in is speculation because I don't know you, but until you actually do it try to refrain. You sit there in your comfort zone and criticize a man who risked his life for someone other than himself. Whether you believe in the cause or not it is irrelevant because it is still admirable. I don't particularly care for the man's politics myself but I wil be fucking damned if I have to sit here and listen to a spoiled little bitch call a man a failure because he gave it his best and was shot down. I have a Purple Heart myself Braddock, am I a failure? Fuck you.
His service is admirable. Along with 600 other unnamed POW's. Too bad his return wasn't admirable.

"Fuck you bitch, I want the rich chick."
And I am not taking anything away from any of the other POW's. I think anyone whom is captured and subjected to torture has displayed a great level of fortitude and loyalty. But thats just it though, all of them including McCain. My problem is with Braddock so brilliantly announcing that they are failures. Now in fairness to him he only said McCain was but that is only because he doesn't like him. By stating a man who is shot down or over powered in combat is a failure, or has come short of his objection is fucking rude.
Understood. My problem with McCain isn't his service. It's the free pass the Republicans think he is deemed because he was a tortured POW.

McCain had a much better (albeit failed) campaign in 2000.

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