[D&ST Live Debate] Tech challenge

2008-08-25 15:51:55

#1

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6772|...

Pertaining to http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=2265080

The challenge is to find a technical solution to facilitate a live debate over the internet between two debaters, governed by a moderator and with some number of listeners while producing a recording which can be posted for later listening. The idea is not go over the top rather to find something free and uncomplicated yet functional. There is plenty of talent in Tech to come up with a lot of positive contributions.

The solution shall meet the following criteria ...

Voice technology to support a debate, this must ... Teamspeak
- Allow a moderator to govern who can speak.
- Allow for n number of listeners.
- Allow for recording of the event.
A specific server to host said service.
A specific site to host the recording and format.
Instructions for participants in how to install what they need or participation and what to do to join.

... anything missing that you think should be here?

cyborg_ninja-117 opened up one suggestion on the thread already ...

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Theres a skype thing where a moderator could allow who to talk, that would stop people from yelling at each other.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-08-25 18:38:55)

2008-08-25 15:57:09

#2

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6817|NYC / Hamburg

TS admins can mute members, no?

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-08-25 15:58:32

#3

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6788|Long Island, New York

.Sup and Freezer7Pro for the lulz.

Slovenian accent vs. a Finnish accent about...I dunno, they argue a lot, so anything.

I call "governing", lol.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-25 15:59:03)

2008-08-25 15:59:33

#4

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6743|N. Ireland

Poseidon wrote:
.Sup and Freezer7Pro for the lulz.

Slovenian accent vs. a Finnish accent about...I dunno, they argue a lot, so anything.

I call "governing", lol.

Don't think you understood the OP..

2008-08-25 16:00:17

#5

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6799|UK

max wrote:
TS admins can mute members, no?

I thought that was just for the individual person doing the muting? Then again, I havent been on ts in months, cant remember :\

2008-08-25 16:01:32

#6

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6817|NYC / Hamburg

Bell wrote:
max wrote:
TS admins can mute members, no?
I thought that was just for the individual person doing the muting? Then again, I havent been on ts in months, cant remember :\

I always thought they could, but I'm not sure at all. The last time I admined a TS server was in 2006

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-08-25 16:02:04

#7

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6562

max wrote:
TS admins can mute members, no?

There's an ad-on for TS that allows the Server Admin to grant and revoke voice rights.

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ebug122

2008-08-25 16:02:25

#8

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6788|Long Island, New York

kylef wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
.Sup and Freezer7Pro for the lulz.

Slovenian accent vs. a Finnish accent about...I dunno, they argue a lot, so anything.

I call "governing", lol.
Don't think you understood the OP..

Two debaters which I listed, someone to "govern" who can speak...what exactly did I not understand?

Edit: If you're saying about how it says a "moderator" to govern, I thought he meant in general just a "moderator", not specifically a mod here.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-25 16:06:02)

2008-08-25 16:02:49

#9

Brasso: member; +1,549|6880

Vent, you can "Globally Mute" someone, but I'm not sure if they're just muted for you or muted for everyone.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-08-25 16:04:29

#10

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6957|67.222.138.85

TS and vent I believe could work equally well. I have a vent server that can hold a max of 8 people and a TS server that can hold however many, both of which I have the administrative power on to set up appropriately. I should be able to set up an appropriate moderator account.

2008-08-25 16:05:34

#11

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6799|UK

max wrote:
Bell wrote:
max wrote:
TS admins can mute members, no?
I thought that was just for the individual person doing the muting? Then again, I havent been on ts in months, cant remember :\
I always thought they could, but I'm not sure at all. The last time I admined a TS server was in 2006

Naha! It just came to me. You can impliment specific channel atributes so that people cant jump in (the listeners), and the SA can give the two debaters these rights to talk, and as the Admin see's fit, he can revoke a specific persons rights so they cant say anything.

To do with channel commander n all that shit.

2008-08-25 16:07:35

#12

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6743|N. Ireland

Poseidon wrote:
kylef wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
.Sup and Freezer7Pro for the lulz.

Slovenian accent vs. a Finnish accent about...I dunno, they argue a lot, so anything.

I call "governing", lol.
Don't think you understood the OP..
Two debaters which I listed, someone to "govern" who can speak...what exactly did I not understand?

Edit: If you're saying about how it says a "moderator" to govern, I thought he meant in general just a "moderator", not specifically a mod here.

It ain't a tech debate, it's a D&ST debate. jsnipy is just looking for some help on the technical side of things as far as I know, not a debate between tech members..

2008-08-25 16:09:30

#13

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6772|...

Yeah this isn't an argument I though it would be fun to include everyone. Lets hash it out and agree.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-08-25 16:10:00)

2008-08-25 16:10:51

#14

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6957|67.222.138.85

How does the moderator know who can speak, with everyone being muted?

I think we should stick to a 1v1 with a moderator + muted audience, at least the first time around.

2008-08-25 16:12:19

#15

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6788|Long Island, New York

kylef wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
kylef wrote:

Don't think you understood the OP..
Two debaters which I listed, someone to "govern" who can speak...what exactly did I not understand?

Edit: If you're saying about how it says a "moderator" to govern, I thought he meant in general just a "moderator", not specifically a mod here.
It ain't a tech debate, it's a D&ST debate. jsnipy is just looking for some help on the technical side of things as far as I know, not a debate between tech members..

Ah, I see.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How does the moderator know who can speak, with everyone being muted?

I think we should stick to a 1v1 with a moderator + muted audience, at least the first time around.

I agree. Makes the most sense. And then have intermissions where we/you let certain people speak/comment on what's happened and been said so far.

2008-08-25 16:13:31

#16

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6772|...

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How does the moderator know who can speak, with everyone being muted?

I think we should stick to a 1v1 with a moderator + muted audience, at least the first time around.

That comes from whatever rules are hashed out in D&ST (tbp). To speculate, each debater would have some sort of time limit. It would volley back forth in chunks of time.

2008-08-25 16:15:12

#17

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6743|N. Ireland

I thought there was going to be a muted audience to begin with anyway, otherwise there'd be waay too many people speaking at one time! Perhaps #bf2s IRC can be of help so that all of the audience can express their views but everyone is still just listening to the debaters. And then we can perhaps have questions taken from people, and then give them permissions in the teamspeak channel? Certainly for IRC there are muting facilities in that only voiced members can speak and operators can demote or promote them to this level. (voice simply being able to speak when other members can't, not actual 'voice')

2008-08-25 16:33:32

#18

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6957|67.222.138.85

jsnipy wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How does the moderator know who can speak, with everyone being muted?

I think we should stick to a 1v1 with a moderator + muted audience, at least the first time around.
That comes from whatever rules are hashed out in D&ST (tbp). To speculate, each debater would have some sort of time limit. It would volley back forth in chunks of time.

Perhaps a list of a few people then, but at the start I think it would be better to keep the list short, and it should be figured out ahead of time. At least for the first round.

Kyle teamspeak has a chat function at the bottom, and I think the fact that it is harder to use would make it better than IRC. Helps cut down on spam to some degree, forces people to mean what they type a little bit more. I think it would be better suited in this situation.

2008-08-25 16:37:24

#19

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6743|N. Ireland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I think the fact that it is harder to use would make it better than IRC.

lol, gotcha

2008-08-25 16:39:23

#20

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6957|67.222.138.85

kylef wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I think the fact that it is harder to use would make it better than IRC.
lol, gotcha

what?

I'm serious, because it's more clumsy would force people to mean what they say more. Can't just throw your hands at the keyboard and hit enter.

2008-08-25 16:48:04

#21

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6389|New Jersey

Yes TS would be perfect for this. You can record and admin can grant voice rights to specific people. And I like the idea of a more clumsy chat interface.

2008-08-25 17:13:34

#22

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6703|The Twilight Zone

But my English pronunciation and accent sucks.

https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png

2008-08-25 17:17:33

#23

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6899

.Sup wrote:
But my English pronunciation and accent sucks.

So don't debate.

2008-08-25 17:17:55

#24

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6703|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
But my English pronunciation and accent sucks.
So don't debate.

Ok...

2008-08-25 17:22:55

#25

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6899

BF2S Forums [D&ST Live Debate] Tech challenge

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

max wrote:

Bell wrote:

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kylef wrote:

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jsnipy wrote:

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