Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7033|Noizyland

This is a 'traditional' Japanese event that has only recently come to my attention.
First off, I am more-or-less an ecology nut, I'm a member of Greenpeace, (but only because I was cornered by an attractive young hippy with a clipboard and a sign up sheet. I signed up thinking it'd be easy to drop out later,) but my facts here are 100% true and not exaggerated at all for effect.

Annually in a lot of Japanese fishing communities, namely Taiji and Futo there is a "Dolphin Drive" in which pods of Dolphins are driven int shallow water and killed with knives and clubs. Generally the ones not hposted out of the water and dragged away to be slaughtered die of blood loss in the water. Fot most others, a rope is tied around their tails and they are hoisted out of the water. As Dolphins weigh approximately 360 KG out of the water, this process literally rips their backbones apart. This of course does not kill them, and they are dragged to makeshift tents/slaughterhouses to suffocate or be bled to death. The very few survivors left in the bloody shallows are bought by marine parks and zoos.

This had been said as a traditional and culteral activity by the Japanese officials. It is true that the Japanese hunted marine mammals in modest numbers in the past, and after he economic devistation after WWII, the occupying US forces suggested that they again hunted marine mammals for food. This eventually turned into the commercial hunting of marine mammals.
The 'tradition' argument is very poor on these grounds, and even if it is considered tradition, it's a brutal one which people should get over. It has no benefit to anyone as Dolphin meat is generally disliked by the Japanese, it is mostly used in fertilizer and pet food. There is not one Japanese resteraunt with Dolphin meat on the menu.

The fact remains that the process used is exptreamly cruel - most likely it is the most inhumane thing on the whole planet. Most people would argue that killing animals with the proven intelligence and social sructure of Dolphins is wrong no matter how one goes about it.
I have a video here narrated by Joaquin Phoenix which shows some pretty graphic images of this process, do not watch if you don't want to, it is pretty nasty.

For more information, check out this site.
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Brasso
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That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
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FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|6898|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer
oh shit...... that's fucking brutal

were you aware that dolphins are the only other animal on earth that does the nasty for pleasure....?  I hate to see one of my bretherens be beaten so....
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Squiggles
+102|6626|Cali
Wow. Very interesting topic.    +1 for youuuuu..
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6951
that's awful...
Brasso
member
+1,549|6889

FesterTheMolester wrote:

were you aware that dolphins are the only other animal on earth that does the nasty for pleasure....?
I sure was!
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6951

FesterTheMolester wrote:

oh shit...... that's fucking brutal

were you aware that dolphins are the only other animal on earth that does the nasty for pleasure....?  I hate to see one of my bretherens be beaten so....
not so my friend, research it: pigs, bonobos, the list goes on.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2006-11-21 17:28:08)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6749|Northern California
Ever seen a rodeo?  Seen a bull fight in Spain?  Ever seen a chicken or beef farm?  Do you know what's in your milk?
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6951

IRONCHEF wrote:

Ever seen a rodeo?  Seen a bull fight in Spain?  Ever seen a chicken or beef farm?  Do you know what's in your milk?
horse seamen?
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7064|The planet Tophet
im gonna kill all them damn asshole that do that! WHAT DID THE ANIMALS EVER DO TO YOU!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7033|Noizyland

IRONCHEF wrote:

Ever seen a rodeo?  Seen a bull fight in Spain?  Ever seen a chicken or beef farm?  Do you know what's in your milk?
Okay, I suggest that you IRONCHEF should see the video. It is even worse than the bullfights in Spain.
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Goven
/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿
+125|6739|Purdue

haffeysucks wrote:

That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
But the Japs rule
Brasso
member
+1,549|6889

IRONCHEF wrote:

Ever seen a rodeo?  Seen a bull fight in Spain?  Ever seen a chicken or beef farm?  Do you know what's in your milk?
Ever seen a helpless, innocent, benign animal mercilessly dragged across pavement, gutted, suffocated, and left to die?

Thought so.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6951

Goven wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
But the Japs rule
The Japs are fucking dicks, weird dicks.
What they do to these dolphins, they did to the Chinese about 70 years ago...

Last edited by Superior Mind (2006-11-21 17:33:23)

Brasso
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Superior Mind wrote:

Goven wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
But the Japs rule
The Japs are fucking dicks, weird dicks.
What they do to these dolphins, they did to the Chinese about 70 years ago...
I happen to be Chinese too.  Assholes.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6951

haffeysucks wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Goven wrote:


But the Japs rule
The Japs are fucking dicks, weird dicks.
What they do to these dolphins, they did to the Chinese about 70 years ago...
I happen to be Chinese too.  Assholes.
I'm not Chinese, I just don't like the Japs .
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6726
Stupid dolphins. Maybe if they stopped living in igloos they would get treated better. But on a serious note I think this is inhumane and a more humane process ought to be developed.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Superior Mind wrote:

Goven wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
But the Japs rule
The Japs are fucking dicks, weird dicks.
What they do to these dolphins, they did to the Chinese about 70 years ago...
Pretty much...  Japan is great at technology, but the rest of East Asia distrusts them for good reason.

Whatever the case, I'm not particularly moved by the video, but it is sad to see such an intelligent species killed for food.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6855|Seattle

"Dolphin Safe Tuna"
https://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/25282d90c8.gif

No one cares about the tunafish...
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7020

What about cows?  pigs?  turkey?
Brasso
member
+1,549|6889

usmarine2005 wrote:

What about cows?  pigs?  turkey?
They can go to hell for all I care.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7020

haffeysucks wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

What about cows?  pigs?  turkey?
They can go to hell for all I care.
So why are they ok to kill, but not dolphins?
Stun_Gun
The Tom Cruise of BF2 pilots
+102|7031|California, US
man that was a terrible video....
just a couple weeks i was at sea world feeding and petting those animals also last week when i was surfing we had about 12 dolphins swim pass us, sad to see this happen to them
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

usmarine2005 wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

What about cows?  pigs?  turkey?
They can go to hell for all I care.
So why are they ok to kill, but not dolphins?
I think a lot of the sympathy for the dolphins is connected to their intelligence.  For example, most of us feel worse about killing a chimpanzee than a snake.  The more intelligent a species is, the closer we can relate to it.  Dolphins can be disturbingly human at times.
Brasso
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+1,549|6889

usmarine2005 wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

What about cows?  pigs?  turkey?
They can go to hell for all I care.
So why are they ok to kill, but not dolphins?
Because they are so intelligent and remind me so much of humans ourselves.  Cows, pigs, turkeys, and chickens are stupid, dirty, animals that are good for one thing: food.  The world has been consuming domesticated animals almost forever.  Wild dolphins, on the other hand, have been consumed by only the Japanese.  Who else does this?  No other race.  In historic times, this might be considered acceptable, as the need for food was extreme.  However, the Japanese are now claiming that war has led them to become poor and that they need to hunt dolphins to survive?  That's a joke.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

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