Should Homosexuals be allowed to have kids??

2006-11-21 08:29:57

#1

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

Disadvantages:

*These children suffer from their parents’ lack of access to the rights and protections that maximize their economic well-being.

* Children are deprived of economic protection in case of death, disability, divorce, or other life-changing events.

* These disadvantages have a disproportionately high impact on children in families of lesser means.

* A 2000 report from Stanford University surveyed the legal and economic landscape and concluded that because same-sex couples are denied the freedom to marry, “the children living with same-sex partners are made to suffer.”

https://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/HEALTH/parenting/06/13/futureoffamily.emails/vert.homosexual.adoption2.g.jpg

Discuss..

2006-11-21 08:31:42

#2

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6764

If you legalised gay marriage none of those would be a problem.................

2006-11-21 08:32:33

#3

JimG: Member; +0|6570

Of course gay people should be allowed to have children. They have the same rights as every other human being.

2006-11-21 08:33:41

#4

TigerXtrm: Death by Indecency; +51|6571|Netherlands

Yes, they should. As should they be allowed to get married. Homosexuals are only a minority because 'the church' says they are, which is major bull...

2006-11-21 08:33:45

#5

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6764

Not in the US they don't. Or Australia, for that matter..............

2006-11-21 08:35:17

#6

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

Bubbalo wrote:
If you legalised gay marriage none of those would be a problem.................

It would still be a problem because although gay marriages may be legalised a large percentage of the population will have a problem with it. The kid would ultimately also be mobbed and bullied at school for having two fathers, for example.

2006-11-21 08:35:57

#7

notorious: Nay vee, bay bee.; +1,396|6949|The United Center

You know, it's funny. There's supposed to be a separation of church and state when it comes to government, and it's usually the case in all matters except gay marriage.

Yes, of course they should be allowed to have kids.

2006-11-21 08:36:35

#8

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

JimG wrote:
Of course gay people should be allowed to have children. They have the same rights as every other human being.

Yes, they may have the same rights as other human beings but their children will generally have a disadvantage in society.

2006-11-21 08:37:45

#9

JimG: Member; +0|6570

If it was normal for gays to have kids, it would not be considered abnormal being a child of two gay parents. And there are no facts proving that the majority of people will be against gays having children, and I doubt adults will mob children because their parents are homosexual.

2006-11-21 08:37:55

#10

misconfiguration: GURU; +86|6599|Indianapolis, IN

Who gives a fuck, as long as that gay couple lets the child(ren) grow up with an open mind. I don't think it's right to force their beliefs on them. If the child grows up and wants to be gay, that's cool but just as I said. It shouldn't be forced upon the child's head.

2006-11-21 08:38:03

#11

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6764

I, for one, am glad that you weren't deciding policy during the days of segregation.................

2006-11-21 08:39:45

#12

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

JimG wrote:
If it was normal for gays to have kids, it would not be considered abnormal being a child of two gay parents. And there are no facts proving that the majority of people will be against gays having children, and I doubt adults will mob children because their parents are homosexual.

How about the Bibel belt?? I'm sure a large percentage of the population would be agaisnt gay marriages and gays having children using IVF.

2006-11-21 08:40:19

#13

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6770|NYC / Hamburg

i'll go for the middle way. they can have children as long as it is conceived without any outside aid

EDIT: ok. being serious. i believe in the free will of every single person. you want to be homosexual? sure, go ahead. it doesnt affect me in the least.

on the other hand i think that children should grow up sheltered and protected in a "traditional" family (yes, mom is cooking, dad has a crappy job that feed everyone).

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2006-11-21 08:40:58

#14

jord: Member; +2,382|6881|The North, beyond the wall.

If i was gay(Which i'm not....) the reason the stated above above about bullying would be the reason i wouldn't wan't to have children.

2006-11-21 08:41:10

#15

JimG: Member; +0|6570

That's true, but nothing changes by standing still. The bibel belt states are backwards in their views, which is why they need to be changed.

2006-11-21 08:41:33

#16

Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|6887|Espoo, Finland

I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.

It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.

2006-11-21 08:42:57

#17

JimG: Member; +0|6570

well all gay children will have a mother, as they will have been concieved by a woman. Whether she has any influence on his or her life is a different matter.

2006-11-21 08:44:19

#18

JimG: Member; +0|6570

Gawwad wrote:
I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.

It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.

Does this mean your for lesbians having children but not male homosexuals?

2006-11-21 08:44:55

#19

Kurazoo: Pheasant Plucker; +440|6887|West Yorkshire, U.K

They shouldnt have kids the sick bastards, gays have mental problems

2006-11-21 08:45:06

#20

Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|6887|Espoo, Finland

JimG wrote:
well all gay children will have a mother, as they will have been concieved by a woman. Whether she has any influence on his or her life is a different matter.

Thanks for stating the obvious. Having a mother means more than having a biological mother. We all have the last one, we can agree on that.

2006-11-21 08:45:38

#21

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

Bubbalo wrote:
I, for one, am glad that you weren't deciding policy during the days of segregation.................

Segregation is a different topic. Sure, it would be nice for gays to have kids and live normally as any other heterosexual couple but I am not thinking about the parent's happiness. I am saying that the kid will be disadvantaged due to to the society that we live in.

I am for gay couples having children if society was different and gay marriages were more accepted but unfortunately, it is not.

Children of homosexual parents will suffer from lack of rights and protections, economic protection and social problems.

2006-11-21 08:46:08

#22

JimG: Member; +0|6570

Kurazoo wrote:
They shouldnt have kids the sick bastards, gays have mental problems

Thanks for sharing your backward thoughts

2006-11-21 08:46:49

#23

Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|6887|Espoo, Finland

JimG wrote:
Gawwad wrote:
I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.

It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.
Does this mean your for lesbians having children but not male homosexuals?

Ok, please atleast read what you're commenting on.

Since some people seem to have a hard time with reading I say it once again:

I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I do have a problem with letting gay couples have children.

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2006-11-21 08:49:50

#24

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6852

Gawwad wrote:
JimG wrote:
Gawwad wrote:
I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.

It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.
Does this mean your for lesbians having children but not male homosexuals?
Ok, please atleast read what you're commenting on.

Yes, I for one thinks that JimG needs to go read a few articles about gays and IVF before commenting on it.

2006-11-21 08:50:02

#25

JimG: Member; +0|6570

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
I, for one, am glad that you weren't deciding policy during the days of segregation.................
Segregation is a different topic. Sure, it would be nice for gays to have kids and live normally as any other heterosexual couple but I am not thinking about the parent's happiness. I am saying that the kid will be disadvantaged due to to the society that we live in.

I am for gay couples having children if society was different and gay marriages were more accepted but unfortunately, it is not.

Children of homosexual parents will suffer from lack of rights and protections, economic protection and social problems.

That's beside the point. Homosexuals should at the very least have the exact same rights as everyone else on this planet, yes? So why not the right to have children.. When you bring in the facts proving everything your saying happens in the entire world and not JUST the US, then maybe you can generalise as you are doing.

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