Enough bullying sergeriver. :p.
Israel didn't leave Gaza, it should have left but it didn't.Bertster7 wrote:
lol.mafia996630 wrote:
They have already officially left Gaza.rawls2 wrote:
How can you blame Israel for protecting it's citizens. if Israel left Gaza alone the Israeli death toll would be higher.
Depends what you mean by 'left' Gaza.
According to the picture, it was because they were good Jews. The bad Jews are the ones in the tanks.CameronPoe wrote:
At the risk of sounding harsh - why did the Jews leave it until it was too late to put up some resistance (Warsaw Ghetto Uprising)?
and does the report say how many of these deaths were caused by HAMAS and Hezbollah HIDING behind women and children while they launched attacks into Israel???sergeriver wrote:
FOUR MONTHS OF GAZA DEATHS
Total: 247 fatalities
155 civilian deaths
57 deaths of children
996 wounded, including 337 children (34%)
Source: Physicians for Human Rights (28 June to 27 Oct)
Israeli forces have made regular incursions into Gaza and the West Bank following the capture of an Israeli soldier, Cpl Gilad Shalit, in a cross-border raid by Palestinian militants on 25 June. About 400 Palestinians, many of them civilians, have been killed in the attacks.
True....all 247 of those were probably just stupid innocent women and children being shields for Hamas gunmen. ...zzzzzzzzzlowing wrote:
and does the report say how many of these deaths were caused by HAMAS and Hezbollah HIDING behind women and children while they launched attacks into Israel???sergeriver wrote:
FOUR MONTHS OF GAZA DEATHS
Total: 247 fatalities
155 civilian deaths
57 deaths of children
996 wounded, including 337 children (34%)
Source: Physicians for Human Rights (28 June to 27 Oct)
Israeli forces have made regular incursions into Gaza and the West Bank following the capture of an Israeli soldier, Cpl Gilad Shalit, in a cross-border raid by Palestinian militants on 25 June. About 400 Palestinians, many of them civilians, have been killed in the attacks.
Source? Proof? You always come with the same argument. Please proove they do that. And if so, the weapons that killed those people are still from Israel.lowing wrote:
and does the report say how many of these deaths were caused by HAMAS and Hezbollah HIDING behind women and children while they launched attacks into Israel???sergeriver wrote:
FOUR MONTHS OF GAZA DEATHS
Total: 247 fatalities
155 civilian deaths
57 deaths of children
996 wounded, including 337 children (34%)
Source: Physicians for Human Rights (28 June to 27 Oct)
Israeli forces have made regular incursions into Gaza and the West Bank following the capture of an Israeli soldier, Cpl Gilad Shalit, in a cross-border raid by Palestinian militants on 25 June. About 400 Palestinians, many of them civilians, have been killed in the attacks.
No Kasams on Sderot - No arty on Gaza.
No suicide bombers - No bulldozing.
No attacks on Israel - No occupation.
Are peoples to dumb to realize these simple things?
No suicide bombers - No bulldozing.
No attacks on Israel - No occupation.
Are peoples to dumb to realize these simple things?
You know fine well the occupation won't end if attacks stop Lisik. The Palestinians aren't that stupid you know.Lisik wrote:
No Kasams on Sderot - No arty on Gaza.
No suicide bombers - No bulldozing.
No attacks on Israel - No occupation.
Are peoples to dumb to realize these simple things?
No attacks on Israel - East Jerusalem as capital of Palestinian state? Don't make me laugh...
The Palestinians shouldn't be targetting civilians but every Israeli soldier they kill respresents a small victory against injustice and oppression.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-21 03:11:18)
Can you show how many people were killed in Israel by the people of Gaza in the same period?Lisik wrote:
No Kasams on Sderot - No arty on Gaza.
No suicide bombers - No bulldozing.
No attacks on Israel - No occupation.
Are peoples to dumb to realize these simple things?
Sderot lies a kilometre from the Gaza Strip. Since the beginning of the al-Aqsa Intifada in October 2000, the city has been frequently bombed by Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants using ballistic rockets known as "Qassam rockets". While very inaccurate, these attacks have resulted in several deaths and injuries, as well as in psychologic distress among the residents and in negative immigration from the city. The Israeli government has installed a "Red Dawn" alarm system in an attempt to alert Israelis to possible shellings, though there are doubts concerning its effectiveness. Hundreds of Qassam rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip since Israel's disengagement from Gaza in September 2005.
On June 18, 2006, Sderot's municipal council announced it will seal off the city's entrance for a 24-hour period in protest of continuing Qassam rocket attacks[2]
On June 20, 2006, The Sderot municipality shut the city down in protest at the continuing barrage of Qassam rockets from Gaza that have struck the area. All inner-city junctions were shut down for an indefinite period of time and the city would be blacked-out from 9 p.m. onwards. Hunger strikers in Sderot ended their nine-day protest on June 19 at the request of President Moshe Katsav, who was touring the Qassam struck southern city. Katsav said that the ongoing rocket attacks in the aftermath of Israel's disengagement from Gaza left Israel with no option other than a military response.
The June 2006 shelling of Gaza by the IDF, which claimed the lives of the intended targets: two senior members of the Palestinian group, the Popular Resistance Committee, was regarded as Israel's response to the on-going rocket attacks on Sderot. The Popular Resistance Committee is a dissident group within the Fatah movement and has fired hundreds of Qassam rockets into Sderot throughout 2006, failing to follow in the footsteps of Hamas's unilaterally declared ceasefire in March 2005. Since the shelling of Gaza by Israel in June 2006 and Israel assassination of Jamal Abu Samhadana in 2006, Hamas has apparently supported and assisted the Popular Resistance Committee's shelling campaign of Sderot, which escalated towards the end of June 2006. On Sunday 25 June 2006, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, an IDF guard on the Gaza Israeli border, was taken hostage in an attack which killed two other IDF members. In a joint statement, Hamas and the Popular Resistance Committee claimed responsibility. On Monday 26 June 2006, tensions arose when the IDF lined up along the parts of the Gaza-Israeli border, seemingly with the intention of launching some sort of combined attack - rescue mission.
On July 7, 2006, two Qassam rockets fired from Gaza hit the city. One of the Qassams fell in the city's central market, wounding seven civilians. Three people were hit by shrapnel from the rocket, while four were in shock. The second rocket landed in an empty soccer field. Three of the wounded were evacuated to Barzilai Hospital.
On November 15, 2006, Islamic Jihad and militants associated with Hamas fired fifteen Qassam rockets from Gaza into the Western Negev, eleven of which landed in Sderot, killing a 57-year-old woman, Faina Sloutsker, and seriously wounding a bodyguard of Amir Peretz[3] and a 17 year old boy.[4] Notably, this was the first fatality of 2006 due to Qassam rocket fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sderot
edit: And its not only Sderot.
On June 18, 2006, Sderot's municipal council announced it will seal off the city's entrance for a 24-hour period in protest of continuing Qassam rocket attacks[2]
On June 20, 2006, The Sderot municipality shut the city down in protest at the continuing barrage of Qassam rockets from Gaza that have struck the area. All inner-city junctions were shut down for an indefinite period of time and the city would be blacked-out from 9 p.m. onwards. Hunger strikers in Sderot ended their nine-day protest on June 19 at the request of President Moshe Katsav, who was touring the Qassam struck southern city. Katsav said that the ongoing rocket attacks in the aftermath of Israel's disengagement from Gaza left Israel with no option other than a military response.
The June 2006 shelling of Gaza by the IDF, which claimed the lives of the intended targets: two senior members of the Palestinian group, the Popular Resistance Committee, was regarded as Israel's response to the on-going rocket attacks on Sderot. The Popular Resistance Committee is a dissident group within the Fatah movement and has fired hundreds of Qassam rockets into Sderot throughout 2006, failing to follow in the footsteps of Hamas's unilaterally declared ceasefire in March 2005. Since the shelling of Gaza by Israel in June 2006 and Israel assassination of Jamal Abu Samhadana in 2006, Hamas has apparently supported and assisted the Popular Resistance Committee's shelling campaign of Sderot, which escalated towards the end of June 2006. On Sunday 25 June 2006, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, an IDF guard on the Gaza Israeli border, was taken hostage in an attack which killed two other IDF members. In a joint statement, Hamas and the Popular Resistance Committee claimed responsibility. On Monday 26 June 2006, tensions arose when the IDF lined up along the parts of the Gaza-Israeli border, seemingly with the intention of launching some sort of combined attack - rescue mission.
On July 7, 2006, two Qassam rockets fired from Gaza hit the city. One of the Qassams fell in the city's central market, wounding seven civilians. Three people were hit by shrapnel from the rocket, while four were in shock. The second rocket landed in an empty soccer field. Three of the wounded were evacuated to Barzilai Hospital.
On November 15, 2006, Islamic Jihad and militants associated with Hamas fired fifteen Qassam rockets from Gaza into the Western Negev, eleven of which landed in Sderot, killing a 57-year-old woman, Faina Sloutsker, and seriously wounding a bodyguard of Amir Peretz[3] and a 17 year old boy.[4] Notably, this was the first fatality of 2006 due to Qassam rocket fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sderot
edit: And its not only Sderot.
Last edited by Lisik (2006-11-21 03:50:40)
We're all very well aware that Qassams land on Sderot on a daily basis Lisik but thanks for the 'infomercial'.Lisik wrote:
Sderot lies a kilometre from the Gaza Strip. Since the beginning of the al-Aqsa Intifada in October 2000, the city has been frequently bombed by Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants using ballistic rockets known as "Qassam rockets". While very inaccurate, these attacks have resulted in several deaths and injuries, as well as in psychologic distress among the residents and in negative immigration from the city. The Israeli government has installed a "Red Dawn" alarm system in an attempt to alert Israelis to possible shellings, though there are doubts concerning its effectiveness. Hundreds of Qassam rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip since Israel's disengagement from Gaza in September 2005.
On June 18, 2006, Sderot's municipal council announced it will seal off the city's entrance for a 24-hour period in protest of continuing Qassam rocket attacks[2]
On June 20, 2006, The Sderot municipality shut the city down in protest at the continuing barrage of Qassam rockets from Gaza that have struck the area. All inner-city junctions were shut down for an indefinite period of time and the city would be blacked-out from 9 p.m. onwards. Hunger strikers in Sderot ended their nine-day protest on June 19 at the request of President Moshe Katsav, who was touring the Qassam struck southern city. Katsav said that the ongoing rocket attacks in the aftermath of Israel's disengagement from Gaza left Israel with no option other than a military response.
The June 2006 shelling of Gaza by the IDF, which claimed the lives of the intended targets: two senior members of the Palestinian group, the Popular Resistance Committee, was regarded as Israel's response to the on-going rocket attacks on Sderot. The Popular Resistance Committee is a dissident group within the Fatah movement and has fired hundreds of Qassam rockets into Sderot throughout 2006, failing to follow in the footsteps of Hamas's unilaterally declared ceasefire in March 2005. Since the shelling of Gaza by Israel in June 2006 and Israel assassination of Jamal Abu Samhadana in 2006, Hamas has apparently supported and assisted the Popular Resistance Committee's shelling campaign of Sderot, which escalated towards the end of June 2006. On Sunday 25 June 2006, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, an IDF guard on the Gaza Israeli border, was taken hostage in an attack which killed two other IDF members. In a joint statement, Hamas and the Popular Resistance Committee claimed responsibility. On Monday 26 June 2006, tensions arose when the IDF lined up along the parts of the Gaza-Israeli border, seemingly with the intention of launching some sort of combined attack - rescue mission.
On July 7, 2006, two Qassam rockets fired from Gaza hit the city. One of the Qassams fell in the city's central market, wounding seven civilians. Three people were hit by shrapnel from the rocket, while four were in shock. The second rocket landed in an empty soccer field. Three of the wounded were evacuated to Barzilai Hospital.
On November 15, 2006, Islamic Jihad and militants associated with Hamas fired fifteen Qassam rockets from Gaza into the Western Negev, eleven of which landed in Sderot, killing a 57-year-old woman, Faina Sloutsker, and seriously wounding a bodyguard of Amir Peretz[3] and a 17 year old boy.[4] Notably, this was the first fatality of 2006 due to Qassam rocket fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sderot
edit: And its not only Sderot.
Good. So when Palestinians will stop do that... we will stop do what we do. Thats whole the point.CameronPoe wrote:
We're all very well aware that Qassams land on Sderot on a daily basis Lisik but thanks for the 'infomercial'.
Last edited by Lisik (2006-11-21 03:57:53)
How to achieve peace, by LisikLisik wrote:
Good. So when Palestinians will stop do that... we will stop do what we do. Thats whole the point.CameronPoe wrote:
We're all very well aware that Qassams land on Sderot on a daily basis Lisik but thanks for the 'infomercial'.
In your bookstore in another life.
Territories will not given back if Palestinians not stop firing. Its a fact.sergeriver wrote:
How to achieve peace, by LisikLisik wrote:
Good. So when Palestinians will stop do that... we will stop do what we do. Thats whole the point.CameronPoe wrote:
We're all very well aware that Qassams land on Sderot on a daily basis Lisik but thanks for the 'infomercial'.
In your bookstore in another life.
They might be taken back, though..........................
How to achieve peace, by Bubbalo.Bubbalo wrote:
They might be taken back, though..........................
In your bookstore in another life.
not for islamic extremists, who sacrifice their children, to throw stones against tanks and to blow up themselves in crowded places...Kmarion wrote:
With the lives of their children? Cmon, you have to prioritize. A childs life is worth more than a material possession in my opinion.
More like "One way to achieve peace". But sure, whatever, I honestly don't care what Zionists think.
Lisik, let's discus this for a minute m8.Lisik wrote:
Territories will not given back if Palestinians not stop firing. Its a fact.sergeriver wrote:
How to achieve peace, by LisikLisik wrote:
Good. So when Palestinians will stop do that... we will stop do what we do. Thats whole the point.
In your bookstore in another life.
Do you accept Israel is part of the problem? Yes or No.
Do you think Palestinians are having a good time? Yes or No.
Would you like to be in the same situation than Palestine? Yes or No.
Do you think that sooner or later something "Big" will happen if both Israel and Palestine continue with their attacks? Yes or No.
Do you want peace? Yes or No.
Very true. I watched an interview of a THREE year old, she has been taught to Hate jews, she is being told that Jews are pigs and monsters that drink blood. She has been encouraged to become a suicide bomber. This came out of a 3 year olds mouth. Her goal in live according to her is to Die a gloriouse death in the name of Allah by blowing herself and as many jews up as possible.Kmarion wrote:
I am reminded of something Al-Hamid Al-Ansari said.
"We have not succeeded in making our children love life. We have taught them how to die for the sake of Allah, but we have not taught them how to live for the sake of Allah."
While i feel real bad about all this inocent killing, i have to wonder how many of these Civilians and children choose to be in these places out of sense of duty, a warped sense of duty i might add.
lol pretty irelevand questions but ok.
Do you accept Israel is part of the problem?
No.
Do you think Palestinians are having a good time?
Im not PA Culture Minister to carry about this one.
Would you like to be in the same situation than Palestine?
Yes.
Do you think that sooner or later something "Big" will happen if both Israel and Palestine continue with their attacks?
Yes.
Do you want peace?
Yes.
Do you accept Israel is part of the problem?
No.
Do you think Palestinians are having a good time?
Im not PA Culture Minister to carry about this one.
Would you like to be in the same situation than Palestine?
Yes.
Do you think that sooner or later something "Big" will happen if both Israel and Palestine continue with their attacks?
Yes.
Do you want peace?
Yes.
Ok, let's go the inverse way. You say you want peace. How can you achieve peace, if you think Israel is not part of the problem and you say you would like to be smashed by Israel Air Strikes?Lisik wrote:
lol pretty irelevand questions but ok.
Do you accept Israel is part of the problem?
No.
Do you think Palestinians are having a good time?
Im not PA Culture Minister to carry about this one.
Would you like to be in the same situation than Palestine?
Yes.
Do you think that sooner or later something "Big" will happen if both Israel and Palestine continue with their attacks?
Yes.
Do you want peace?
Yes.
Intifada toll Sept 2000 - Sept 2005
Why Israel is part of the problem? Israel have right to exist, the only problem its Islamic extremism.
Last edited by Lisik (2006-11-21 05:06:35)
exist* lol
Lisik, I want you to know that I don't hate Israelis (I'm jewish, but an antisemite jew wouldn't be new, j/k), I'm against both Israel Zionist Government and the Palestinian extremists. So, as you can see, I mentioned two parts of the problem, and sadly one of them is Israel. When Israelis accept that, peace will be closer to be achieved.Lisik wrote:
Why Israel is part of the problem? Israel have right to exit, the only problem its Islamic extremism.