Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7050|Houston, TX
KeithRogers - can you give a bigger blackeye to the [Hil] server/clan?  You're the admin on this site from time to time, or just a clan member?  If I'm to understand it correctly, you TK'ed someone in response to your players untimely demise due mostly in part to you trying to type and fly at the same time?  (Please let me know if this is incorrect)  But from what I've read, that is not an appropriate action of an admin, a Hil clan member, or even your generic random GI Joe that plays online. 

Of course you're free to Kill and TK as much as you'd like, free world online...
I have to question the Clan you represent by your actions.  Why would I even consider playing on a server with goons like you omnipresent?  Even worse is the threat of bringing in a "Big brother" clan admin. 

"your smart, tking a Hil memeber"

This represents poorly on your clan's choices for member enrollment.

In defense of your (possibly former) clan, they had balls enough to swallow a bit of pride, come onto this forum, stick up for the server and clan, and apologize for any inane actions that might have happened during game time.  This redeems them in my eyes, till I read your posts.

Please, for the sake of the $80 I've paid to play and have a good gaming experience, stay in one server so I have one less jetramming, TK'ing, imbecile to have to deal with.



PS For the Hil clan, I urge you to respond. For reputation's sake.
KillerAFET
Member
+3|7085|Abilene, Texas

Kung Jew wrote:

If the commander then proceeds to blame you for his incredible lack of foresight by TK'ing you.  Don't let it go, but still switch teams and proceed to type him a bunch of messages....  Then kill him while he types back.
One of my favorite tactics is to find the opponent's stud player and taunt him until he's motionless from typing!!! 
KeithRogers
Member
+0|7111
This is why i dont bother writing in forums, It gives every asshole the right to talk shit about people that just play BF2 for fun. If you wanna view Ramming a Blackhawk racking up points with a C4/HIP newbish fine, I dont give a shit. Using a Plane while your commander annoying you? Get there before me then. Tking a Trashtalker cause you cant swop teams wrong? I dont care about score, who has what badge, who has what rank, I get home and  I play Bf2 on HiL server cause I love the ping I get and there all great players and after listening on there ventrilo some are funny as fuck.  I have a fulltime job and Im going to Basic this Fall.

-King Jew. I did Apolgise, to HiL clan. Lt.Gorden can goto hell and so can you. And as for that "possibly former clan" HiL clan is a great clan and I urge people to play on there servers. Even If I dont get to join It wont stop me from playing on there server, and using the tactics i find both fun and amusing.
So if you wanna believe Lt.Gordon cause hes got a higher rank and plays more often and has more kills then me, thats fine. He made me swing around to avoid him taking off and made me crash, and I TK'd him for it.
End of Story. Im going to play Bf2. Ive got things to ram into and people to kill.

And If any HiL admins are reading dont bother replying to this forum, dont waste your time.
You dotn need to justify your self and your server cause one person doesn't like people using the F35
while there Commander.

Last edited by KeithRogers (2005-12-21 15:02:34)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,060|7076|PNW

In the defense of HiL, a few of their members have displayed more maturity than the combined efforts of certain entire clan rosters could possibly muster. Cheers to those guys. But that aside...

Keith, apparently overwhelmed by the spirit of the Season, didn't just hand me a bunch of ammo to use against him. No, he decided to drop a whole buried cache of WMD's in my lap. So, how could I resist? While I'm not going to quote back everything he typed in this thread, there are some juicy tidbits that I will bring up in the following list (in orange text):

The List wrote:

1. The "real" story, huh? "He made me swing around to avoid him taking off and made me crash, and I TK'd him for it." I vividly recall asking to pilot all the way from the attack helo spawn point, and you belly-flopping into a watery grave in an underpowered take-off before I even got to the Blackhawk spawn spot. It was a straight 'n narrow belly-flop...with no detectable swerving involved. Apparently, you thought it a good idea to shift blame for your own inept piloting to me, and thought it a good idea to snatch the only remaining ride (aside from boats), get some altitude, then swing back to pepper the deck of your own carrier, mowing me down. You didn't honestly think that I wouldn't be annoyed, did you?
2. "And Like so many games it end with Me and Gorden Tking each other till he gets kicked off before me. It happens all the time." Why am I not suprised that there are 104 kicks to your good name, Sir?
3. "Am I sorry, no hes got no right telling me what I can and Cant use." As there's nothing in the fabled BF2 TOS that says anything against commanders piloting aircraft, I never said that you couldn't fly...rather, I offered to fly in your stead so that you could actually use the full spectrum of commander abilities (which is impossible while flying) to assist our team, which was at the time fairly hard-pressed.
4. "So show off your stats all you want and say what ever you want." "I dont care about score, who has what badge, who has what rank..." These statements do not clearly align with: "o yea as for my TK points IM a Major Rammer. Ive had a score of -104 in support for ramming Hips of C4 into blackhawks.  Is it newbish Yes, did it get me a Expert Spec force and Explosives Medal yes, do I give what you think, no." When I compared our stats, I did not mention medals, badges, ribbons or shots. I did not brag about my basic ground defense badge or showcase my war college ribbon, no! Instead, what I brought to attention was m 26:1 kill/tk ratio to your dismal 13:1.
5. "So if you wanna believe Lt.Gordon cause hes got a higher rank and plays more often and has more kills then me, thats fine." I've played for 254 hours. You've played for 265. Though it's a rather silly bit of numerical semantics at this level of playtime, I believe that you have 11 hours on me, my friend. And me with more kills and a higher rank at that...my, my.
6. "In the end Il still be playing on HIL server with or with out the HIL tag." No, I'm not actively out to get you kicked from your clan. "And as for that "possibly former clan" HiL clan..." Wait! Don't go! I'm sure they'd be extremely sorry to see you leave.
7. "And After talking with the HIL admins If you start tking me again youll be banned." Unless someone really pisses me off (you have a ways to go, yet), I don't maintain such vendettas beyond one round, though I'm not above specifically targetting you if you smart off to me again after purposefully TKing me like that. Fair warning.
8. "This is why i dont bother writing in forums, It gives every asshole the right to talk shit about people that just play BF2 for fun." Then why were you still typing? Aside from that, if you just play for fun, then why do you get so pissed off at people for somehow making you "swerve and crash" due to your absurd practice of typing while taking off?
9. "I have a fulltime job and Im going to Basic this Fall." Why is it that when people feel they're being insulted online that they have to fall back on the "but I'm cool! I have a job!" or the "I'm going to Basic Training" defense? Do they really think it sets them apart as an isolated entity in the world, or even the gamer community? Keith, I sure hope you're up to being an Army of One, if that's where you're headed. I'm sure they'll really teach you all there is to know about slamming into stuff inside a vehicle wired with C4. Or maybe they'll teach you how to write, so you can get your expert penmanship badge.

Merry Christmas, punk.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2005-12-25 23:59:16)

KeithRogers
Member
+0|7111
Merry Chrismas asshole
DR-BLAZ
Member
+0|7001
The HiL guys who responded to the upset people are showing some class. Give HiL another chance. There are bad admins everywhere. Hell, it is the web, after all.
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|7013|th3 unkn0wn
Gaming is supposed to be all about fun but instead it leads to a heated debate and forum flaming during this festive period.

Wot is the world coming to? Maybe you guys need to get out a bit more and take a break from sitting in front of a pc. The fresh air can do you a lot of good you know and help de-stress
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

I work in front of a PC, and currently relax infront of a PC,  because it is friggin cold outside.
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|7013|th3 unkn0wn

usmarine2005 wrote:

I work in front of a PC, and currently relax infront of a PC,  because it is friggin cold outside.
I didn't mean you. I wos referring to the guys bitching and acting 10yrs younger than wot they are. It's a known fact that if you're playing badly on any game or someone is giving you a hard time you're more likely to end up stressed out than relaxed - even though relaxing and having a good time wos the actual plan.

But then cold/cool air does wonders for the mind doesn't it?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

I know you didn't mean me, I am just working the overnight shift and I am friggin bored.  But honestly, I'll take cold beer over cold air.
Umbra Acciptris
Member
+1|7060
I play on HiL server quite a bit, although I am not a HiL member, nor do I even know many of thier members (I must play oposite of thier normal times).

First, I would like to state, I quite enjoy this server and have not, nor have I seen any major issues with the admin, or HiL members.

Yet this story seems to have some validity.  Posting the log was great, thanks, I am glad to see HiL is willing to look into things just because of a forum post on another forum unlrealted to HiL.  That shows the admins care about their server.  Yet, what is not included in the log is the deaths, most specificaly the TK's.  KeithRogers could have TKed 50 people intentionaly that round, yet by the log no one would know.

Second, this gem

KeithRogers wrote:

OK I just found this post. Heres the rel story. I was the COmmander on my New Clans Server.  I was ground pounding awhile as where msot of the team  only 1-2 guys where on carrier for the Cobra. SO I see the F35 spawn and I Figure , "what the hell " cause the Z-10s raping and so are the J-10's. SO I grab a F35 and as soon as I start tlaking off  He says why are you in the F35? Pick one ect ect.

Now The planes been sitting there most the round Only 1 was up most the time.
So lets get this straigt the plane that has been sititng thier most of the round just spawned. . . umm, ok that makes perfect sence.  Although I admit it can happen, the old one may have been blown up by a TV guided missle or a carrier attack.  Personaly I find it unlikly, how often do you see an american jet sitting unused. . .

Second, the fact that you are a commander, yet still got in a jet says somthing about your gaming ability.  Most people would realize that you cannot even be a half ased commander and fly a jet.  just the second lag most people get from loading the command map would cause you to die.  Let alone having to run a scan, place a UAV, or arti strike.  The fact some one points this out to you, and you get into an argument, or even TK war shows quite about not only about your in game ability, but your overall judgement.

So what I take from this thread overall.  KeithRogers sucks as an admin and commander.  HiL server usualy rocks.

Might well join on the server again tonight.

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