commissargizz
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LOWING SAYS
Hmmmmmmm you want to pull troops out of Iraq........meaning, you don't want anyone there to fight for a free Iraq, yet, you don't want the terrorists to take over Iraq...........and............I am stupid???

What is a free Iraq? The country has more US and it's allies troops on the ground and are getting attacked every day, is that free? Civilians are getting killed by sectarian violence is that free. What is to be free?

HHHMMMM so which terrorist will take over Iraq, Bin-Laden? Who do you want to see in charge. If there is a democrazy in Iraq and they chose a hard line anti US bloke, the US will complain add sanction, tell the world how terrible there are etc. Well tough that is democrazy for you.

I WANT BUSH AND CHANEY AND RUMSFELD TO DO A TOUR OF IRAQ. Soldiers lose their lives Rumsfeld loses his job sounds like a shit trade.
<[onex]>Headstone
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+102|6975|New York

Reciprocity wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

NOW WHAT?!
I've been asking that question of the Republican Executive for 6 years.  I've been asking that question of the Republican Legislative for 4 years.  The Democrats have yet to actually assume Legislative power and already you assume failure?

You should be happy.  Now if something terrible happens, Bush and the GOP can blame currently officed Democrats.

Someone give these poor, dejected Neo-Cons a hug.   But not like a gay kind of hug.  You know what, let's stick with hand shakes(and hot, sticky IM chat).
You have to assume failure because of the failure of the Dems to let the legislative branch get anything done because they were and still are mad over Bush being elected. So Yah, I say they will fail if they start playing the comissions game and president attacks. The people will see there real agenda and then Bush will have no choice but to use his Veto powers. If they do play dirty, you also see some of the new elects and leberman and some of his friends shift there votes. So yah theres a pretty good chance they will fail if they Carry on like Ole Chuck Schumer Already stated whth his comission talk already. People dont want to hear that shit.
<[onex]>Headstone
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+102|6975|New York

CameronPoe wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

Well. . . . The Democrats are in power now. . .  hmmmmmmmm

You thought Bush brought big government back!! LOL wait till these assholes start shakin and movin in January!!!

I have to say that I was surprised the Republicans lost the Senate, I didnt see that one coming.  However, now the Dems have control of both houses, NOW WHAT?! 

WHAT IS THEIR PLAN/MESSAGE/DIRECTION??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

DO THEY HAVE ONE???????????? If you simply flip the news channels and watch the Dems get interviewed, its OBVIOUS. . . they dont!!! 

The Republicans shot themselves in the foot, allowing these fucking pricks take over, but its okay!!!!!!!!! Because once the Democrats start up their usual bullshit, people will still want a Republican president in 08'! I mean look at the Dems potential candidates. . .Hilary is a cunt, Obama is black(US is not ready for a black guy just yet), Edwards is a condecending southern elitist lawyer asshole, Dean is a madman that is WAY TOO LIBERAL!! Enjoy the victory for the next two years, because you guys wont win the presidency. . . .
No plans is better than Republican plans!
Oh really? Now if you put as much effort into throwing out an idea on how to win this for the Iraqi's and give em a fighting chance as you have given such effort on the death toll, Then maybe we could talk about this. If even you, who is so interested in Our Govt. cant even give a short essay on what a good plan would entail, then yes, all hope is lost and No plan IS better that any republican plan lol.
lowing
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+1,662|6924|USA

commissargizz wrote:

LOWING SAYS
Hmmmmmmm you want to pull troops out of Iraq........meaning, you don't want anyone there to fight for a free Iraq, yet, you don't want the terrorists to take over Iraq...........and............I am stupid???

What is a free Iraq? The country has more US and it's allies troops on the ground and are getting attacked every day, is that free? Civilians are getting killed by sectarian violence is that free. What is to be free?

HHHMMMM so which terrorist will take over Iraq, Bin-Laden? Who do you want to see in charge. If there is a democrazy in Iraq and they chose a hard line anti US bloke, the US will complain add sanction, tell the world how terrible there are etc. Well tough that is democrazy for you.

I WANT BUSH AND CHANEY AND RUMSFELD TO DO A TOUR OF IRAQ. Soldiers lose their lives Rumsfeld loses his job sounds like a shit trade.
A free Iraq is an Iraq where the people are able to choose and live and prosper without fear of tyranical govt.

terrorists are killing civilians, part of the reason we are fighting there now, beleive it or not their are Iraqis that are glad we are there.

I want to see a govt. first friendly to its citizens second to the western world. If a tyranical govt. takes over again I suppose we will isolate them from US aid. and what is wrong with that? IT IS OUR AID, we should be able to choose wh owe give it to. doncha think??

Ya might wanna do some googling THEY HAVE visited Iraq.
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6750|H-Town
I just want to know were are these "terrorist" we are fighting in Iraq?  We have already failed, we are not fighting terrorism, we are now fighting the Iraqi people.

They ARE now at civil war on OUR watch.  There is NO way to stop this from happening at this point by the use of force.  They will continue to fight to see which group will win control, and I'd just about guaranty that when its all said and done Iraq WILL NOT BE A DEMOCRATIC STATE, and more then likely will be anti US. 

What do you clowns think, your gonna kill the majority of the population of Iraq in order for a small few to have what you conceder democracy? LMAO........That will never happen because the majority of US citizens don't want that (yourselves excluded).  Not to mention that would be the COMPLETE opposite of the principles our own country was founded on.

The people in that region have to believe and want that philosophy for themselves in order for it succeed.

I wouldn't say to completely withdraw all troops at once.  I think we should set a time line, reduce them gradually starting now,  start only defending vital infrastructure while training the Iraqi military (whoever that maybe) to defend themselves.  If the Iraqi government can't hold together their troops and country after that then so be it,  it would obviously not be the will of the people to have such government. (you know the puppet government we put in that is now turning on us as well)

Just my thoughts
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6995|Eastern PA

lowing wrote:

A free Iraq is an Iraq where the people are able to choose and live and prosper without fear of tyranical govt.

terrorists are killing civilians, part of the reason we are fighting there now, beleive it or not their are Iraqis that are glad we are there.

I want to see a govt. first friendly to its citizens second to the western world. If a tyranical govt. takes over again I suppose we will isolate them from US aid. and what is wrong with that? IT IS OUR AID, we should be able to choose wh owe give it to. doncha think??

Ya might wanna do some googling THEY HAVE visited Iraq.
Do you also subscribe to the idea that we're "killing them over there, so we don't have to fight them here" otherwise known as the fly-paper theory?
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6917|United States - Illinois

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


You know what assuming does, don't you?   I'll let you fill in the blank.
well??
No, I haven't served in the military.  Does that mean that the research I've done on the military is completely nullified?  I think not.
If you have never had sex but learned all about it through researching it by watching porn, beating off, or reading about it in books does that mean you know what the actual act of having sex feels like.  I think not.

I quit readin after this comment.
commissargizz
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Oh terrorists have visited Iraq so they are going to run the country. Terrorists have visited all countries does that mean they run for president in 2008 in the US as I am sure there are terrorists there now. We should have not been there in the first place, if there is to have been a  war there are plenty of  humanitarian wars we could participate in. Take a look at Africa ie Congo, Rwanda, the Sudan people dying in the thousands and are we there to help, bollocks are we, no fucking oil. Wars are for profit, all wars declared by the West are for profit, prove to me otherwise.
commissargizz
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Oh I forgot, if the war in Afghanistan was revenge for 9/11, can't think of any other reason apart from oil, why haven't we declared war on Saudi Arabia, where most of the bombers come from and has one of the most oppressive regimes in the world?

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