I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
May God rest the honorable soul of Cpl. Jason Dunham.
Yep that took courage
I heard about that a while ago. He deserves more than just a medal. He is truely a hero.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
holy shyte, thats incredible. not many people would have the thought to do that.
R.I.P Jason Dunham.
R.I.P Jason Dunham.
aye, i remember another soldier got the Victorian cross. RIP to him and everyone else that has died.
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
By the question, i am simply curious, i do not intend to offend anyone.
EDIT: i know it shows how much a certain someone was willing to sacrifice, but whats he going do with it when he's dead?
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
By the question, i am simply curious, i do not intend to offend anyone.
EDIT: i know it shows how much a certain someone was willing to sacrifice, but whats he going do with it when he's dead?
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Rest in peace, Marine. Your country thanks you.
There could be different responses to your question, but a soldier who has gone above and beyond the call of duty and performed such a heroic act deserves to be honored, dead or alive.mafia996630 wrote:
aye, i remember another soldier got the Victorian cross. RIP to him and everyone else that has died.
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
By the question, i am simply curious, i do not intend to offend anyone.
EDIT: i know it shows how much a certain someone was willing to sacrifice, but whats he going do with it when he's dead?
I heard about the story before, and I think he fully deserves the medal. I'm not even an American but I feel greatful for his actions. An amazing thing to do, RIP.
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posthumous awards also serve to make sure people like us know what that person did
He was from Garden Grove, near where I live.
Its not so much for the fallen soldier as it is a symbol to family and friends as to what he did. Its not easy to react like that to save your fellow brothers. Most people would dive and take cover behind a car or something. I've only ran into one Medal of Honor recipient my entire life and he was from WWII. He is no longer with us but seeing that medal in person is VERY rare. This veteran was lucky in the fact he actually lived to recieve his award, 90% of the recipients never return home alive. Unfortunately this current recipient did not get to come home alive. But because of his actions other marines do.mafia996630 wrote:
aye, i remember another soldier got the Victorian cross. RIP to him and everyone else that has died.
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
By the question, i am simply curious, i do not intend to offend anyone.
EDIT: i know it shows how much a certain someone was willing to sacrifice, but whats he going do with it when he's dead?
Because the primary purpose of medal, from a military point of view, is to improve morale and encourage good (which is to say, as good as is possible, not just passable) behaviour.mafia996630 wrote:
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
@mafia: Question though, why not give medals to dead people? Would depriving the dead of ceremony, while not emotionally affecting a dead body in the slightest, be the best thing for the people it knew who are still living? Some traditions shouldn't be discarded in the name of logic. Even Vulcans had ceremony. Borg too, if you really think about it.Bubbalo wrote:
Because the primary purpose of medal, from a military point of view, is to improve morale and encourage good (which is to say, as good as is possible, not just passable) behaviour.mafia996630 wrote:
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
@bubbalo: We're in agreement, for once (or twice).
It's not the first time it's happened, but I forgot who said this. Perhaps an unforgiving history trivia guru could fill me in. Something to the effect of:
~ 'You'd be suprised at what a man would do for a bit of ribbon.' -?
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Thanks for all the replies to my question. They give medals to dead heroes due to the overall affect it has on everyone else and because of traditions like unnamednewbie13 said. Which i guess really means, the hero really doesn't gain anything , other then be remembered.
But i guess if i died as a hero, i would not want a medal. I really don't want a piece of metal representing all that i have fought and died for. I would want my actions, my views, my thoughts to represent everything i did. And if people choose to remember me or if they didn't, so be it.
But i guess if i died as a hero, i would not want a medal. I really don't want a piece of metal representing all that i have fought and died for. I would want my actions, my views, my thoughts to represent everything i did. And if people choose to remember me or if they didn't, so be it.
I think it was Napoleonunnamednewbie13 wrote:
@mafia: Question though, why not give medals to dead people? Would depriving the dead of ceremony, while not emotionally affecting a dead body in the slightest, be the best thing for the people it knew who are still living? Some traditions shouldn't be discarded in the name of logic. Even Vulcans had ceremony. Borg too, if you really think about it.Bubbalo wrote:
Because the primary purpose of medal, from a military point of view, is to improve morale and encourage good (which is to say, as good as is possible, not just passable) behaviour.mafia996630 wrote:
Question though, Why give medals to dead people? i just find it a bit odd, don't quite know why.
@bubbalo: We're in agreement, for once (or twice).
It's not the first time it's happened, but I forgot who said this. Perhaps an unforgiving history trivia guru could fill me in. Something to the effect of:
~ 'You'd be suprised at what a man would do for a bit of ribbon.' -?
+karma to you, I guess, though my magnificent brain beat you to it in its sleep.-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
I think it was Napoleonunnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's not the first time it's happened, but I forgot who said this. Perhaps an unforgiving history trivia guru could fill me in. Something to the effect of:
~ 'You'd be suprised at what a man would do for a bit of ribbon.' -?
'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.' -Napoleon Bonaparte
I'd like to think i have the guts to do somthing like this, its either heroic or stupidity but its sure brave.
A good death can always be heroic and stupid. There are better levels death than merely flipping over on a snowmobile and shattering your head while you're goofing off on powder.LostFate wrote:
I'd like to think i have the guts to do somthing like this, its either heroic or stupidity but its sure brave.
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