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2006-11-07 20:00:14
Doktorbob
Member
+26|6700
I am so freakin good I only us a slingshot on every single map.  I hope this settles this "debate"

If the slingshot fails I fall back on my engy wrench and smack em up side da head.
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2006-11-07 20:53:54
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6840|Warlord

Jornac wrote:

Ive played IO Warlord many a time and one thing stands out.  It is very easy to tell when you are up against a terrible SAS sniper.  He is using the M95.  If you've got the option to use the M24, and you choose the lesser gun, you shouldn't be sniping.  The M95 is loud, its not as accurate, and it does the same amount of damage.
While I agree that the M24 is the superior choice for sniping overall, depending on how you play the M95 can be the better option because of the difference in damage to armoured classes if you like to pull out the pistol to finish off after a body shot. Other than that though I wouldn't use it given a choice.

Jornac wrote:

On Warlord (a map I know pretty well) people seem to like the SVD.  Mainly because when the sniper gets surprised because he's a bad player in general, he can spam that SVD and probably kill you.
I don't come up against a lot of SVD-armed snipers on Warlord... at least I don't get shot by many

Jornac wrote:

I am not a fan of a gun that caters to cowards.
Oh puh-lease. One gun is no more or less 'manly' than another... you go down this road and you get the "what a pussy using the G36E" type of thing.

Jornac wrote:

The M24 is also much muuuch more accurate than the SVD.  The M95 is as well more accurate.  Its loud as hell, but its a much better choice.
The M24 has half the deviation of the SVD; the M95 does not. Check the Wiki.

Interesting that you mention volume here BTW, I just looked at this after meaning to for a long time and it's not quite what one would expect.


power9787 wrote:

dude svd pwns and m95 is great for moving targets done to thicker crossahair. it is great when get close range and shot and switch pistol one shot  kill with m95 to any kit. m24 is slower reloading l96 and feels less cool and not as good in bullet drop
give me karma
Why should we pay any attention to what you're saying dude? The reason I ask is that in your short post here you've managed to include one mistake and given your opinion on a bunch of things as though there wasn't any question on them.

And P.S. asking for karma is a good way not to get any
2006-11-07 20:55:36
sithao
Member
+63|6838|Los Angeles, California
In my opinion all the stock guns are better then the unlocks.
2006-11-08 08:25:29
Trouble69
Member
+1|6846|WA, Australia
As far as I'm concerned its not the rifle you use but how well you can place yourself. If you are in a spot that even arty can't reach and there are a few places like that on Warlord and Ghost Town which give you a great field of vision you will pot at least ten enemies per round. The key to being a sniper is to be invisible (you will never see me on a rooftop - that is just asking for trouble and arty, when I command I'm amazed at how many enemy snipers set themselves up on rooftops - easy arty kills) and your job is to defend flags and spot enemy vehicles so your team mates can take care of them. The sniper kit is so under-rated.
2006-11-08 08:46:47
FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|6852|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer

KILLSWITCH wrote:

I know a lot of people already know this but its just some friendly advice to any newbies who perhaps haven't discovered the awesomeness of the M24.
Newbies can read other posts too, they don't have to read your repeat post
2006-11-08 16:58:10
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6840|Warlord

sithao wrote:

In my opinion all the stock guns are better then the unlocks.
Too simplistic.


Trouble69 wrote:

As far as I'm concerned its not the rifle you use but how well you can place yourself.
Obviously being in the right place(s) is important but inherent accuracy is inherent accuracy, no way around that part of the equation.

Trouble69 wrote:

If you are in a spot that even arty can't reach and there are a few places like that on Warlord and Ghost Town which give you a great field of vision you will pot at least ten enemies per round.
And that's enough is it?
2006-11-08 18:02:54
Jornac
Member
+1|6593

Trouble69 wrote:

As far as I'm concerned its not the rifle you use but how well you can place yourself. If you are in a spot that even arty can't reach and there are a few places like that on Warlord and Ghost Town which give you a great field of vision you will pot at least ten enemies per round. The key to being a sniper is to be invisible (you will never see me on a rooftop - that is just asking for trouble and arty, when I command I'm amazed at how many enemy snipers set themselves up on rooftops - easy arty kills) and your job is to defend flags and spot enemy vehicles so your team mates can take care of them. The sniper kit is so under-rated.
No the sniper kit is for shooting people from a very far ways away in hopes of achieving the most amount of points possible....

I dont think you understand BF2 well at all.  Defense, is not a real word.  Nor is teamwork.  The only exception is when you see a backcapper and you spawn at that back flag.  Its not teamwork if you just spawn on a guy to ... well spawn somewhere; and you dont even stick with the squad.

Theres a lot of ways to be a good sniper, staying in one place is not one of them.  That's all also besides the point.  The deviation is only one part of the m24 SVD comparison.  After you fire your second round of the M24, your deviation is the same.  After you fire your second round with your SVD, dont expect to hit the floor.    Its mainly an automatic rifle with a scope, as opposed to a true sniper rifle.  If anything, the guys at EA/Dice should've put the VSS in instead of the SVD.  At best, the SVD is a medium range rifle with a scope.  The M24 and the L96a1 and the M95 are high and above it in terms of overall quality.  If you're an alert observant player, there is nothing an SVD can do that the AK101 or AK74 can't do better.  If you know how to aim with ironsights, you will be in pretty good shape.  Now if you want to actually snipe, instead of just crouching on the street shooting somebody you see, use the M95 if the M24 is not an option.

The SVD caters to cowards because you can just spam rounds if somebody is up close.  You never should need to do that because that means you weren't paying attention, or you were running around with your rifle out, or you've been staying in the same place to damn long.
2006-11-09 16:48:38
dont_be_ss
Member
+312|6806|selby, n. yorkshire, UK

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Since I got my own copy of SF and started playing it regularly I've been forced to use the M95 and it's not quite as bad as I used to think but the M24 is just so much easier to use for tricky shots.

I'm actually not using the L96A1 in vanilla unless I have to, I now always go with the M24 if I'm USMC.


The_Jester wrote:

And whoever uses the M95 over the SVD on maps like Mass Destruction or Surge is a complete noob...with fog at 100/180 meteres, wtf do you need a bolt action rifle for?
LOL

Me > all the snipers using SVDs, on a typical day at the range.
Ive made a few kills over 500m+ with the type 88, it's just harder to pick out the targets.

We all have our own preferences.
2006-11-09 16:49:49
dont_be_ss
Member
+312|6806|selby, n. yorkshire, UK

sithao wrote:

In my opinion all the stock guns are better then the unlocks.
the type 88 is shit on dragon valley, so i'd have to disagree.
2006-11-09 17:18:23
Jemme101
M24 Abuser
+99|6713|Valley of the Dragons

dont_be_ss wrote:

sithao wrote:

In my opinion all the stock guns are better then the unlocks.
the type 88 is shit on dragon valley, so i'd have to disagree.
That is pretty much the truth. In a years playing time on lots of server I have only run into a couple of decent Type 88 Snipers. The best one of them could go head-to-head with me betwen distances of 350 and 450 meters on D.V. But he still has been the only one I have ever met with such skill in that sniper rifle (I wrote his ingame nick down somewhere but I cannt find it atm, no not you dont_be_ss ).

 

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