Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-03 16:07:49)
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I support gay marriage, but I don't support some asshole being a pastor for 14000 persons and being a fag, while talking to children in his business, errr church.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-03 16:12:32)
Good point... I was actually thinking the same. However, I think what this really proves is that people who slam homosexuality the most usually have some closet issues of their own.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
It has more to do with the endless preaching by "upright citizens" like this guy who shout about the moral decline of society and how "the gay" is destroying the world and that we need to return to "traditional values" all the while they're snorting coke (or in this case meth) off of a prostitute's ass.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
Unfortunately... yes. They're growing very quickly here.maffiaw wrote:
just wondering, do evangelicals have a large following in the US?
This guy only has 14000 followers, and he's one of the 25 most important evangelical pastors in US.maffiaw wrote:
just wondering, do evangelicals have a large following in the US?
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Um... and what's wrong with talking to a congregation if you're gay? I agree this guy shouldn't condemn homosexuality, if he's that way himself, but so what if he is gay? That doesn't make him incapable of talking to his fellow believers. Besides, this is very different from the Foley thing.sergeriver wrote:
I support gay marriage, but I don't support some asshole being a pastor for 14000 persons and being a fag, while talking to children in his business, errr church.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
As religious as you are, what do you feel when you see this kind of BS?IRONCHEF wrote:
Ok, I'm not sure how this is so difficult to decide on... The dude KNOWS a GAY ESCORT, he obviously associated with him enough, and intimately enough to gain his trust so as to learn of the meth dealing he does, he actually BOUGHT the METH (and probably lied about throwing it away, but that doesn't matter as much..he bought it). Hmmmmmm... The dude packs fudge, he's a "backer" of Bush, and a ton of other religious bastages who are now claiming they never met him (lieing like little bitches)...blah, blah, blah...
But I'm sure this is all just left leaning media spin during election time so just discount it and all other scandals for the last few years.... lol
Nothing wrong with being gay and admitting it, but being a pastor and paying to a guy to get your ass done seems a bit hypocrite.Turquoise wrote:
Um... and what's wrong with talking to a congregation if you're gay? I agree this guy shouldn't condemn homosexuality, if he's that way himself, but so what if he is gay? That doesn't make him incapable of talking to his fellow believers. Besides, this is very different from the Foley thing.sergeriver wrote:
I support gay marriage, but I don't support some asshole being a pastor for 14000 persons and being a fag, while talking to children in his business, errr church.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
Mark Foley was making advances at a 17 year old, while this guy has committed adultery (if the claims are true), but I think infidelity has far less disturbing nuances than pedophilia, comparatively speaking....
Sounds to me like the bullshit belonged more to the guy than the morality. They're not one in the same.Masques wrote:
It has more to do with the endless preaching by "upright citizens" like this guy who shout about the moral decline of society and how "the gay" is destroying the world and that we need to return to "traditional values" all the while they're snorting coke (or in this case meth) off of a prostitute's ass.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
I revel in the destruction of assholes like this guy and their bullshit morality.
What a nice vitreaux.King_County_Downy wrote:
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I don't support him contradicting his values either. But how can you say you support gay rights and then call him a "fag"? A bit contradictory on your part. Your comment about children assumes he abused children when there is not evidence. Care to retract that?sergeriver wrote:
I support gay marriage, but I don't support some asshole being a pastor for 14000 persons and being a fag, while talking to children in his business, errr church.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
When I watch this shit, I think of daily situations like this message board, and it's no wonder people believe religion is the source of all evil, war, etc. It's shitbags like this guy (if he's actually guilty) who RUIN "christianity" for the humble followers of Christ who are actually good, honest people making a real difference.sergeriver wrote:
As religious as you are, what do you feel when you see this kind of BS?IRONCHEF wrote:
Ok, I'm not sure how this is so difficult to decide on... The dude KNOWS a GAY ESCORT, he obviously associated with him enough, and intimately enough to gain his trust so as to learn of the meth dealing he does, he actually BOUGHT the METH (and probably lied about throwing it away, but that doesn't matter as much..he bought it). Hmmmmmm... The dude packs fudge, he's a "backer" of Bush, and a ton of other religious bastages who are now claiming they never met him (lieing like little bitches)...blah, blah, blah...
But I'm sure this is all just left leaning media spin during election time so just discount it and all other scandals for the last few years.... lol
I aim to pleasesergeriver wrote:
What a nice vitreaux.King_County_Downy wrote:
http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/9f94286738.jpg
The evangelical movement is so anti gay that some of more extreme Church's openly preach burning gays. The liberals laugh because its funny when half of these preachers are so obviously in the closet themselves (i may be generalizing a tad) that they preach homophobic rhetoric because they are so angry at themselves being gay. Now thats "Kinda hypocritical"unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Allot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
You didn't get my point. I'm not generalizing. I'm talking about this particular asshole, and I agree with you he's a hypocrite. I don't assume he abused children, but I don't want a guy who pays for gay sex to talk to my kids.Stingray24 wrote:
I don't support him contradicting his values either. But how can you say you support gay rights and then call him a "fag"? A bit contradictory on your part. Your comment about children assumes he abused children when there is not evidence. Care to retract that?sergeriver wrote:
I support gay marriage, but I don't support some asshole being a pastor for 14000 persons and being a fag, while talking to children in his business, errr church.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Alot of liberals are laughing at this. Kinda hypocritical, given how much time they spend pushing for gay rights and respect.
As a "religious" person this is how I feel:
This man is a hypocrite. He spoke his values one way and lived them the complete opposite in secret. He should quit and is a disgrace to his church. However, the assumptions in this thread that such is the case with all those who hold moral values is simply false. Just as bad as "all Muslims are terrorists" posts.
Why? Because his values might rub off on them? (no pun intended) You're for gay rights. Still seems contradictory to me.sergeriver wrote:
I don't assume he abused children, but I don't want a guy who pays for gay sex to talk to my kids.
