KillerAFET
Member
+3|6782|Abilene, Texas

DeathCalibre wrote:

Thanks Ryan - another one who is ignorant enough to call everything else "SKILL" but ohhhhh no, not the GL...

So, according to you - the GL should never be used, right? What bullcrap. You may have heard of the phrase;

"What is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular."

Some idiot who was getting arse raped in a game started the "n00b tube" whine and it spilled over. Now it's the "uncool" thing to do for some reason. And again - why is it okay to use everything else like the Chopper, Jet, Tank, APC etc and not use the bloody launcher which only comes with 5 shells anyway?!?!?

I refuse to get my knife out when an F18 is homing in on me in the pretense that I don't want to be seen as a "n00b tuber", excuse me. Dying at the hands of these things isn't made cool just because you went up against it with a pistol.

And I have brought down many attack Copters with the GL. I'm sure a lot of n00bs can do that too...
Sunshine, why raise the protest unless there's a touch of regret for your actions? Feel the need to clear your conscience?  You remind me of the remorseful murderer who, on his deathbed, regrets all the murders he committed so he can have a clean slate on the way to his final judgement. You, young man, are the definition of a TWERP!!!

So, reply with the vulgarisms typical of your kind ilk.  I'm a big man, I can take it.

I bet you like to hop around as well when you go toobin' but that'll be eliminated when the next update comes out.
[C4]LostMonkey
Member
+0|6754|Norway
What DeathCalibre is describing is GL skills, not running thru Karkand jumping while shooting nades all over the freakin' place. If you see my stats(LostMonkey), I have 700-800 kills with the GL, those are either vehicle kills, out-of-range kills, group-kills, tactical kills! These are respectable kill types with the GL. So think before you call a guy noob-tuber on the forums, call them by that name when they kill you within 5m. distance...

BTW calling a guy a noobtuber dont longer have a meaning, just like noob, everyones use it to everybody.
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|6714|Norway
Nice thread, one of many about grenadelaunchers. Thankfully this hasn't turned into an ugly flame war

Personally - I like the grenadelauncher-attachment, although i have to admit I am not the best shooter in the game with it.
For me it's a couple of things - yeas, i hate bunnyjumpers as much as the next guy (i am actually a recovered bunnyjumper:) ) and being shot by a person 3ft. away is irritating.

Just remember though - the guy could have been using it against enemies farter away and then see you coming - as previously posted, who would spend drawing time on getting another weapon up?

The thing I like about the launcher and which, in my book, requires "skill" - is shooting a grenade into melee, taking out theh enemy without hurting team-members. I have done that one a few occasions, and that is something that requires thought. You could just ignore the fight and see who wins out the contest, and risk loosing a team-mate for 15secs or whatnot - or you could try the grenadeshot - with the added chance you could damage/kill a friendly and take negative points.

As far as the use of "n00b", I thought that was short for newbie, and that newbie was a person who was new to something, and that means that we all are/were newbies at one point or another.

And as far as the use of the word "skill", everything takes skill, in varying amount.

And Ryan, in regard to your last post, using the "community" to try to justify/prove a point can't really be called a good argument can it?

Peace and Love
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6776|Noizyland

I've never been kicked for not bowing. I wait until my opponent attacks first, and always pull out my sweet as yellow saber at the last second to slice his throat.

Edit: In JK:A

Last edited by Tyferra (2005-12-18 14:20:52)

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Rizen_Ji
Member
+41|6737|200m out and smiling at you.
i dunno it might be the fact that i'm a sniper now, but when i started playing i liked playing assault a lot and the only reason was that i got a GL and it reminded me of my days of playing Delta Force, which had the M16/203. And so when I would play I'd just be like hey! let's have some fun! there's a tank! smoke grenade! GL time! i've managed to take 2 tanks down like that but it takes all your grenades to do it. but it's worth it!


but all in all, GL not n00b weapon, lot's and lot's of fun.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6766|Dallas
Noob tubing will always be like Milli Vanilli fans.  While you think your music is good, no one else in the world does and they all hate you.

And for good reason, Milli Vanilli, sucks.
chitlin
Banned
+36|6764
you have a halfway decent score with the assault rifle .. so im inclined to say that there are some gl's that came from fairly long distances ... however its not that good of a score and i naturally assume if you cant aim the regular assault rifle with proficiency then these amazin 300 yard gl shots arent very likely..

you might have some decent skills doing mid range gl'ing but i suspect the majority of your kills are from close range as it is the nature of gl'ing ..i persoanlly despise it however a long range shot does take alot of skill and i would never bitch if i was the victim of one .. its those gl at your feet scumbags that need to stop
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|6714|Norway

KillerAFET wrote:

DeathCalibre wrote:

Thanks Ryan - another one who is ignorant enough to call everything else "SKILL" but ohhhhh no, not the GL...

So, according to you - the GL should never be used, right? What bullcrap. You may have heard of the phrase;

"What is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular."

Some idiot who was getting arse raped in a game started the "n00b tube" whine and it spilled over. Now it's the "uncool" thing to do for some reason. And again - why is it okay to use everything else like the Chopper, Jet, Tank, APC etc and not use the bloody launcher which only comes with 5 shells anyway?!?!?

I refuse to get my knife out when an F18 is homing in on me in the pretense that I don't want to be seen as a "n00b tuber", excuse me. Dying at the hands of these things isn't made cool just because you went up against it with a pistol.

And I have brought down many attack Copters with the GL. I'm sure a lot of n00bs can do that too...
Sunshine, why raise the protest unless there's a touch of regret for your actions? Feel the need to clear your conscience?  You remind me of the remorseful murderer who, on his deathbed, regrets all the murders he committed so he can have a clean slate on the way to his final judgement. You, young man, are the definition of a TWERP!!!

So, reply with the vulgarisms typical of your kind ilk.  I'm a big man, I can take it.

I bet you like to hop around as well when you go toobin' but that'll be eliminated when the next update comes out.
Well actually, the definition of twerp has something to do with being unintelligent (ie having a low IQ score)

And as far as the rest of your post goes - why are you writing it like you are? Do you wish to start a flame-war?
You don't produce any examples in DeathCalibre's text to support your outragous claims, you use a funny kind of logical fallacy with trying to connect Death Calibre to murderers and deathbeds.

Why don't you write something constructive, or atleast argumentativly sound..

Peace and Love
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6776|Noizyland

Congrats Cougar, for perhaps the best ever way of describing n00b-t00bing.
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Darth_Fleder
Mod from the Church of the Painful Truth
+533|6808|Orlando, FL - Age 43
DeathCalibre,

You have to take into consideration that these high-schoolish attempts at peer pressure are just that. Like Krappyappy said, just ignore em. I get charged up when I start to hear them bitch. Whenever I hear them start to cry, I know that I am getting the better of them. In these days of the feminization of our males, in their young minds it is ok to cry like little girls when they don't like something. The more they cry, the more I like the GL. Who cares what babies think?

uk.Solidsnake sums it up perfectly, war is about winning.


For all of you that hate the t00b:

1. It is my primary weapon.
2. I will continue to use it whether you like it or not.
3. I will shoot you at ANY range I deem appropriate.
4. Your whining and name calling encourages me.
5. I care nothing at all for your narrow definitions of "skill".
6. I am looking for YOU.

Happy Times!
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If you want to bitch, do it about legitimate concerns, like asshats that tk for vehicles, idiots with the punish, idiots who spam kick votes/mutinies, etc.

Last edited by Darth_Fleder (2005-12-18 14:57:43)

luckybaer
Member
+10|6776| Going Feral
It is part of the game, so use it. 

If the n00b t00ber dies, too, does it count like a suicide, or like a regular death?
Mosh
Member
+2|6744
the GL is fun to use. i used to bitch about it alot, but not so much anymore. it sucks to go up against, thats without question.

BUT, skill with the GL is hitting/killing people that are quite a distance ahead of you (for arguments sake, call it 20+ yards) finding the right angle in the heat of battle makes the GL worth using, and DOES require a certain amount of skill.

I've been "tubing" a bit now and then, only when times get rough, but i see myself going for the distance kills with it, alot more than i wait for enemies to turn a corner then blast em (no i don't jump when i do it either, and it seems to work just the same) :p

all in all, theres some aspects of using the GL that take skill, but 90% of the time its just fun (cept when u foget to reload it after a small fight).

just my 2cents
Fubar48
Member
+0|6708

Ryan_Mercury wrote:

Why use it as your primary when you can use something called skill? Infantry fighting with REAL weapons is much more fun.
Your can have fun with the GL too!  Why not use it as your primary weapon?  It was put in the game to use just like everything else.  Get over it, play, and have fun.............
chitlin
Banned
+36|6764
lolz preach on "darth" just before i respect your opinions or how you think its skill based try to have some skill as your ratios for assault rifle and the gl that youre so proficient with are atrocious =p

youll hate the new patch as dice is chnging the splash dmg for the gl among other tweaks they havent disclosed details on .. hopping gl'ers may have to find a new way to kill other than aiming thier weapon..= )
Darth_Fleder
Mod from the Church of the Painful Truth
+533|6808|Orlando, FL - Age 43
Chitlin,

Honestly, I didn't really care to take much care of my stats until I started posting in forums. Changing the stats on this character will be a long slow process. But then again, earning your respect is not terribly high on my priority list.

I don't think that the splash change is a done deal. I don't bunnyhop often, so that change won't bother me that much.

I don't hate much. (except those who teamkill for vehicles)...I just adapt.
WildBlueYonder
Member
+0|6739|New Brunswick Canada

Ryan_Mercury wrote:

Why use it as your primary when you can use something called skill? Infantry fighting with REAL weapons is much more fun.
WOW, it IS a real weapon and very much more so than THROWING C4 like a grenade for example, but hey a lot of people do that too, you gonna start to complain about them too? The "t00b" is a legit weapon, bitch about it all you want it is there i will kill you with it, I will lob it at the base of most flags on karkland as i run up to it (because you are usually laying there prone), and firing it up the tailpipe of a passing vodnik etc. takes skill and is quite useful as well as taking out the tank gunner as someone stated earlier. Never gotten a chopper though, congrats!
YitEarp
Member
+1|6726
a) i like to use the noob tube sometimes but its by no means my primary weapon even loving the assault kit as i do

b) honestly its pretty easy to get kills with at whatever range after playing with it a little bit and getting used to its arc

c) anyone who claims its very difficult to 'master' the nade launcher is kidding themselves.  so you've 'mastered' the tough art of killing folks with a 1-hit kill weapon that you can aim within a few feet of them on the ground, against a wall, etc(in other words, a much larger target for success).

d) yes there is some skill required to get the long shots off, but still easier than most other weapons.  all it requires is the ability to guage a lead on the target(which is applicable for every weapon) and knowing roughly the arc it fires in.

e) people who complain about the noob tube no matter the circumstances under which they die are annoying.

f)  people who can only kill others with a GL at point blank suck big balls(aiming reasonably close to someone at point blank is not hard, mmkay)
DrDestruction
Utilityman
+1|6779
I began the game hating the so called "n00b tubers" and I still do, especially when you throw bunny hopping at 5 foot kills in the mix.

I've learned to deal with it, accepting it as an exploit in the game (which it is) - there really is no other word for killing someone from 5 feet away with a grenade launcher while jumping three feet into the air.  I don't really give a shit what you GL users call it - you know it's cheap, no matter what you say.

However, as I said, I've accepted it as a part of the game.

What REALLY gets to me, however, is when the people who exploit the GL start making huge posts on forums trying to justify their actions, and calling the rest of us (who complain about their expoiting) "cry babies", and "whiners", etc.  I must wonder - if you really don't care what we all think of you, than why are there still so many posts being made about the grenade launcher, and defending the fact many of you exploit it?  I don't mind (anymore) that you have found a rather cheap way to get points - no one plays 100% fair - but for God's sake, just shut up about it.  We don't need to hear over and over again about how the rest of us are "whiners".  It's like three goth kids calling everyone else "conformists".  We DONT CARE about how you think your play style is fair - we think it's cheap.  We DONT CARE about what you think of us, just like how you (supposedly) dont care about what we think of you.  So here's some advice - play your style, and shut up when people whine about it.  You can't have everything in this world.

You want us to "just deal with the grenade launcher" because you aren't going to "change anything about your tactics", than YOU need to put up with the criticism you are going to get for it without crying on forums about how much whining is done about your tactic.  Just deal with it, like we deal with your so-called "n00b tubing".

By the way, as a side note, props goes out to all you assault players that use the GL as intended (i.e. long ranges, not from 5 feet away with bunny hopping, etc.), and your main assault rifle for CQC.  You guys are a dying breed and haven't fallen to the temptations of your cheaper bretheren.  Hats off to you guys, you know who you are.

Last edited by DrDestruction (2005-12-18 15:28:04)

Rotter
Member
+0|6767|United States

Ryan_Mercury wrote:

Anyone can get scores like that with the grenade launcher dude, it's not hard. But I ain't gonna start a flame war over this, whatever floats your boat. Have fun.
Agreed.
elmer1082
To The Front
+4|6757|Columbus, Indiana
The unfortunate thing is that it seems that no matter what you use to kill with someone is going to call it a noob something. I say just kill with whatever you have. I just can't wait until someone can figure out how to kill with the wrench
Mad_Ghost
Member
+0|6706
Anyone who pops a grenade from a launcher or the anti-tank weapon at close range are enjoying a flaw in the game that will soon be patched...eventually. Like bunny hopping, in time that lame, no skill required tactic will be a thing in the past.

Yeah I agree with some of the above posts..... these projectiles have a serious blast radius and there ain't know way in hell that you would fire GL's and AT's as a primary weapon at close quarters. Enjoy the glitch for now.
WildBlueYonder
Member
+0|6739|New Brunswick Canada
Maybe the game just hates me but i've never found it had that big a radius, (landed on the wall maybe a foot away from the guy and he kept right on bunnyhopping). But i'm with DrDestruction stop whining, play the game. and to elmer1082 i would definately love to club someone with a wrench
slaata
there's laughter in slaughter
+18|6728
I feel , and always do that a bit like watching porn on tv......... if you don't want to watch then turn over.
what I mean is    "It doesn't always suit .... but you have a choice .
Things cheese you off but ...IF IT'S IN THE GAME and you choose to play then you have to accept people will DO IT!!!  if its base raping or GL or suicide bombing ... IF ITS IN THE GAME accept it or .....    turn over.
chitlin
Banned
+36|6764
Honestly, I didn't really care to take much care of my stats until I started posting in forums.
thats funny to me .. that you need to know what your numbers are to have good ones .. you dont have to "take care of your stats "if you are good then your stats will be good pretty simple ..so its ok to suck as long as youre not aware of the numbers and magically once you become aware of your numbers then you decide to cease sucking..

earning my respect couldnt be less valued since i dont know you from a hole in the wall, and i dont want / care if you do or not . actually i guess having someones videogame repect couldnt be more worthless .. anyhow my only point was i wouldnt take business advice from someone with cerebral palsy and i wouldnt take weapons advice from someone with .6:1 ratio ..no offense meant ..
AlphaDrake
Member
+10|6784|Edmonton
People, http://www.megafps.com/modules/myalbum/ … hp?lid=105   I have used the GL to kill 10 enemies, did not use it at all on that round and look at the score. Yes it's karkand but still no n00b tube...BUT, before you start bitching at me, here is WHY it is called the n00b tube.


If you can hit a vehicle from 200m away, good for you, NOT n00b tubing
If you hit a sniper from a long distance, NOT n00b tubing
If you take out an enemy squad with one shot when the squad is 2m away from you and YOU dont die,  DEFINITALLY n00b tubingf=

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