Poll

Do you use the HUD while bombing?

Yes, I always try to keep my target in the right place20%20% - 35
Yes, but only to keep bombs dropping in a straight line9%9% - 16
No, I use 'Bombing Sense'30%30% - 53
No, I dive bomb always9%9% - 17
I ram blackhawks with a j1030%30% - 52
Total: 173
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6709|so randum
is there a certain speed/attitude/altitude you should be at to make that work? i went on a local game, and it was 50/50, eg some would hit, some wouldnt, and none with as much precision as you
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Djbrown
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+129|6705|Adelaide, Aussieland

fatherted13 wrote:

is there a certain speed/altitude you should be at to make that work? i went on a local game, and it was 50/50, eg some would hit, some wouldnt, and none with as much precision as you
My vid showed them hitting ranging from 50-150m which is the limit it say the hud is useful for. my speed was always the same, obviously while in a dive the speed increases, but it seems to me like the hud compensates for this. I wouldnt expect anyone else to get that accurate when trying for themselves, its one thing lining up the target dead straight but dropping the bomb at the precise moment is another thing alltogether.

Also you should probably notice in almost all those shots i dropped below the horizontal slightly, sometimes by about 5* and others about 50*. flying perfectly straight makes it slightly harder, because if you dive slightly, you can keep the target in the 'zone' for longer, giving more time to drop it right.
elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6662|USA
I dive bomb... for iglas I dont even get within range of them, I just drop 2 bombs on them from fairly high up and i usually get them.. safest way imho. (in your video you got hit by an igla doing ur method)
Learned this technique while sitting in the laser guided seat in the bomber, which was being flown by colony2142.

Last edited by elite.mafia (2006-10-24 21:42:12)

gene_pool
Banned
+519|6830|Gold coast, Aus.
Browny is the real deal. He used to be in my ex-clan. I can safely say, anything he says, is very accurate information.

Anyway, love the moving car hits and the Helicopters were pretty good too. Although the second and third ones were pretty much on the ground and the blast radius could have killed them. First chopper was pretty funny though
elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6662|USA
I want to see someone pull the move where you pull up and drop bombs on the jet thats chasing you.... My friend claims to have done it :S (and he's not usually one to speak of bullshit)
VspyVspy
Sniper
+183|6881|A sunburnt country

jkohlc wrote:

Djbrown wrote:

Ive been wondering,

So many people say the HUD is useless for bombing, but i beg to differ. I actively use it all the time and rarely miss. Thats not to say you need the HUD to be a good bomber, but it is strange how few people actually pay any attention to it. I know the majority of people (myself included) will claim they use a 'bombing sense', result of hours of practice to know where bombs will hit most of the time, but does this work often at heights above 150m for example?

Ive created this poll as i simply want to get an idea of how many people use it, and effectively. Im under the impression im the only one who actually reads it, so i made a movie showing what life is like from my point of view. This movie is directly aimed at people who are practicing using the bombs, but cant get them to hit often. Bombing sense may take 10+ hours to fully comprehend, this takes 3 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhvQ_z2okg0

Its a compilation of some of my games from last weekend, i hope everyone can learn something from it and utilise the HUD to its full potential in the future.

As for the parts at the end, the rest of my movies are found by searching my username on youtube.
whats the music for the video? btw that vid rocked big time
The music is Carmina Burana composed by Carl Orff in 1937

Last edited by VspyVspy (2006-10-24 22:42:02)

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|6860|The Netherlands
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XISIX
Member
+116|6824
WOW !

Very useful. Thank you for sharing.
I need to start flying jets to eventually get Vet Aviator
so this helps a lot.

+1
FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|6849|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer
what altitude are you at... 200?


i really suck.. and i love to ram full BH's with my j-10
Studs
Member
+5|6764|Denmark
No, I use 'Bombing Sense, BUT i suck so bad at it... lol

Good video, and many tanks... +1
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7052|Reykjavík, Iceland.
I have developed a bombing sense since BF1942 and don't need any of them HUD things at all, I don't use the hud AT ALL, except for spotting ground targets and making sure I'm not over the height limit, good ol'e days of BF1942 bombing.
evilcartman99
The Octagon
+18|6621|da ville, va
I try to use the HUD but I suck at flying anyway and try to use my senses witch also suck.
Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6842|USA
God amongst mere mortals. +1
Brasso
member
+1,549|6839

Umm, no shit?  But the last part is really something.
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TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6829|Mhz

VspyVspy wrote:

jkohlc wrote:

Djbrown wrote:

Ive been wondering,

So many people say the HUD is useless for bombing, but i beg to differ. I actively use it all the time and rarely miss. Thats not to say you need the HUD to be a good bomber, but it is strange how few people actually pay any attention to it. I know the majority of people (myself included) will claim they use a 'bombing sense', result of hours of practice to know where bombs will hit most of the time, but does this work often at heights above 150m for example?

Ive created this poll as i simply want to get an idea of how many people use it, and effectively. Im under the impression im the only one who actually reads it, so i made a movie showing what life is like from my point of view. This movie is directly aimed at people who are practicing using the bombs, but cant get them to hit often. Bombing sense may take 10+ hours to fully comprehend, this takes 3 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhvQ_z2okg0

Its a compilation of some of my games from last weekend, i hope everyone can learn something from it and utilise the HUD to its full potential in the future.

As for the parts at the end, the rest of my movies are found by searching my username on youtube.
whats the music for the video? btw that vid rocked big time
The music is Carmina Burana composed by Carl Orff in 1937
Actually its O Fortuna from Carmina Burana but close enough

EDIT, BTW I am by no means a plane whore so this is a fucktards question. but, how do you only drop one bomb all the time? I 99.9% of the time drop 2

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2006-10-25 16:33:19)

Djbrown
Member
+129|6705|Adelaide, Aussieland
Theres 2 ways to drop one bomb. either drop the bombs the switch to missiles quickly so only one falls, reload back up to 2 bombs and from then on ONLY reload once you have dropped BOTH. Also, when flying over an airstrip only fly over half of it so you reload one, drop that one, then reload both again and as before, only reload once youve dropped both.
.xReichx.
Member
+0|6602
Excellent video and tutorials on bombing.  I tried it out but didn't have much success at this style of bombing... I do a dive bomb pretty much with a swing up just before I release.  When I swing up I aim the bottom of the HUD with whatever I'm diving at and release... I'd say this is 95% accurate for me.    IGLAS and Stingers I don't waste time bombing when a few spirts off the MG will manage well enough.

+1 or whatever <n00b>
Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6703|Sydney, Australia
I see you weren't flying level when you used the bottom of the HUD, and in the last shot you dropped your bombs after the bottom of your HUD passed the J10 because you were flying level. Could you explain please?
Djbrown
Member
+129|6705|Adelaide, Aussieland

Vub wrote:

I see you weren't flying level when you used the bottom of the HUD, and in the last shot you dropped your bombs after the bottom of your HUD passed the J10 because you were flying level. Could you explain please?

My_Acutal_Video wrote:

For 300m precison bombing, please refer to my other videos about it
search djbrown for user name in google video /youtube and youll find my videos about super long range bombing. alternatively, go here:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=46262

it also turns out i made a typo in my vid, its meant to be 200m so dont try bombing at 300m, you wont hit a target.

Last edited by Djbrown (2006-10-26 03:09:12)

GbeTech
Member
+9|6706
Can you list the rest of your vids please?
0akleaves
Member
+183|6822|Newcastle UK
Well that bombing technique sucks what you gunna do its its moving. I know it works but i can hit moving DPV's as after 300 hours flying you know how far away and when to drop it that is just for still targets dive bombing is by far the best.
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
Djbrown
Member
+129|6705|Adelaide, Aussieland

TheMackumSlayer wrote:

Well that bombing technique sucks what you gunna do its its moving. I know it works but i can hit moving DPV's as after 300 hours flying you know how far away and when to drop it that is just for still targets dive bombing is by far the best.
Wow what did the english language ever do to you to deserve that?

Well i hit moving targets all the time. dive bombing is for wimps. notice how in one shot i aimed about 30m in front of a moving dpv, and it drove straight into my bomb? and good luck dive bombing helicopters.

The point of this video was to show people who are learning the jets a good way to hit targets. new players arent going to be able to dive bomb properly, and if theyre using a mouse and keyboard most new players will crash.

I dont suppose after reading what you wrote, you could actually read what my movie was titled
'Precision bombing' as in not dive bombing like a wimp, but hitting my targets from as far as possible as accurately as possible.

If I wanted to make a jet ownage video i wouldnt use those shots. this is in the TECHNIQUES AND STRATEGIES section, not movies section, hence i was not aiming to impress.

Oh and I dont give a shit how long youve been flying for.

BTW i refer to dive bombing as being for wimps becuase its the same as using the grenade launcher. shooting someone 2m away with it is for noobs, good players can hit people with it from 50+m
Im not going to list my movies either just click on my username in the youtube link and it will come up with all my other videos.

Last edited by Djbrown (2006-11-12 19:52:23)

UUD40
Member
+8|6580|San Diego, CA
Nice tut. I'll try it when I fix my stuff.
JulesLee
Member
+1|6971|CA USA
dam u fking ownn! i bet ur in the USAF or something as a pilot lol..
TigerXtrm
Death by Indecency
+51|6577|Netherlands

LOL at the majority of the votes XD.

I use my feeling mostly, given that the hud is stationary and the place where the bombs land is depending on a lot more factors then just a stationary point in the hud.

Tiger

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