Stay the course? When did they ever say they'd stay the course?

2006-10-23 01:04:38

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The_Shipbuilder: Stay the corpse; +261|6756|Los Angeles

BUSH TODAY ON THIS WEEK WITH GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, listen, we've never been "stay the course", George. We have been "we will complete the mission, we will do our job and help achieve the goal", but we're constantly adjusting the tactics, constantly.

Edit: even better video than before

BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]
BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]
BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]
BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]
BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]
BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

Another good one from Bush in the same youtube video:

"In my judgment, Maliki has got what it takes to lead a unity government."

LOL

Bush is clearly the expert on leading a unity government.

Last edited by The_Shipbuilder (2006-10-23 11:19:13)

2006-10-23 01:34:34

#2

SpaceApollyon: Scratch where it itches; +41|6776|Finland

That kind of talk explains why he has zero credibility among many people.
Lies, its all lies!

On a side note though, thats probably the most coherent heap of words that I have ever heard from Bush.

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2006-10-23 01:35:21

#3

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6817

"I am not patient forever"

That makes perfect sense. Totally. 2+2=5.

2006-10-23 02:34:59

#4

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7028|PNW

Bush just said...foment sectarian violence...flawlessly.

I knew he had it in him somewhere. Someplace. English is like a second language to someone who is a native Texican speaker.

Bubbalo wrote:
2+2=5.

Proof that cut & pasted bits of text can make anyone look the fool. All about context.

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2006-10-23 09:49:37

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6857|132 and Bush

It's just slang for finish the job. Big deal is it?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-10-23 10:08:45

#6

IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6747|Northern California

Wanna see an even more pathetic liar? Cheney STILL says Al Qaeda had/has ties with Saddam.. He just said it again a few weeks ago.

These guys keep saying lies until everyone believes them. They (Rove) know how dumb and gullable american people are and if we hear something enough, we'll believe it. I find people all day who think liberals are the "cut and run" party though I have not heard of that phrase being used once or anything like it from dems. Hannity just told american democrats to just stay home on November 7th because their vote doesn't count and if dems take congress, they'll have no idea how to defend the country. Same thing when Kerry was running and winning the presidential election in '04...he wouldn't know how to defend the country. Even my dear, but politically senile mother thinks Kerry would have run and hid after 9/11 (like Bush actually did after his 7 minute stupor). Yet Kerry is the one that fought and served for his country in Vietnam while Bush cut and run. So many backwards spins in politics to ensnare the feeble minds...

2006-10-23 10:16:33

#7

The_Shipbuilder: Stay the corpse; +261|6756|Los Angeles

Kmarion wrote:
It's just slang for finish the job. Big deal is it?

Not for me - for me it's just funny to watch the Bush administration implode. Not to mention flip-flopping on the single most important issue in our country today. Guess from now on we won't be hearing much about Dems being flip floppers eh?

It IS going to be a big deal for Republican voters though. They don't believe in gray areas or nuance - they want simplicity in binary. Policy explained by simple slogans. Three years of "we stay the course - they cut and run" now followed up by this fantastic punchline? That is not going to sit well with Jim-Bob Sixpack and his wife Marylou.

Edit: grammar

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2006-10-23 10:18:50

#8

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6952|NJ

Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?

2006-10-23 10:30:11

#9

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6837|SE London

They're polititians. Of course they lie! It's their job. Blair lies almost incessantly, at least Bush doesn't seem to have the wit to lie well. But then Blair doesn't do a very good job of lying either, Saddam could launch WMDs in 45 minutes, yeah right.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
2+2=5.
Proof that cut & pasted bits of text can make anyone look the fool. All about context.

Bush doesn't need things to be taken out of context to make him look like an idiot, he does a good job of that by himself. But at least he knows the stakes (that press conference was hilarious, "we infirm that" was a nice little line that made me chuckle).

2006-10-23 10:35:12

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6857|132 and Bush

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?

A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-10-23 10:35:28

#11

IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6747|Northern California

Here's the confounding video for those who don't believe mere words...

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/23/bar … he-course/

2006-10-23 10:39:55

#12

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6952|NJ

Kmarion wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?
A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.

Right you mean like when sadam was in power?

Because if we left right now there is no telling on if the region would stabilze. We are ocupiers right now and bring attacks on ourself as being so..

2006-10-23 10:44:42

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Snipedya14: Dont tread on me; +77|6951|Mountains of West Virginia

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?

Very good point.

Basically I ignore pretty much everything bush says. I follow his and his administrations actions. His word means shit.

2006-10-23 10:48:18

#14

Pernicious544: Zee Tank Skank; +80|6956|MoVal So-Cal

well, he IS a few french fries short of a happy meal

2006-10-23 10:49:53

#15

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6857|132 and Bush

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?
A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.
Right you mean like when sadam was in power?

Because if we left right now there is no telling on if the region would stabilze. We are ocupiers right now and bring attacks on ourself as being so..

You asked, I told you what the "idea" was. I did not anticipate that being a lead-in question for you to upchuck your opinion.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-10-23 10:50:48

#16

IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6747|Northern California

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?
A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.
Right you mean like when sadam was in power?

Because if we left right now there is no telling on if the region would stabilze. We are ocupiers right now and bring attacks on ourself as being so..

I would bet money that if US forces (and the other 50 or so coalition of the willing members) pulled out, it would be a matter of a few weeks before the sunni resistence ended and it would begin stabilizing immediately. The president has already mentioned Syria and Iran helping, and they surely would. The country would then be worse off than it was with saddam in power (being a religious government), but it would be a stable one..suitable for the people or Iraq..hopefully. Imagine Iraq and Iran friendly nations for the first time! Maybe BUSH was right!! By his invasion, the middle east will be free and at peace!....well, maybe he didn't say that exactly.

2006-10-23 10:55:35

#17

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6837|SE London

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Stay the course? I'd have to say that there should be a course before you can actually stay it?
A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.
Right you mean like when sadam was in power?

Because if we left right now there is no telling on if the region would stabilze. We are ocupiers right now and bring attacks on ourself as being so..

Simillar view to those expressed by General Sir Richard Dannatt not long ago.

2006-10-23 11:11:21

#18

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6952|NJ

Kmarion wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:

A stable Iraq that can defend itself from itself.
Whether it's possible or not is a different topic.
Right you mean like when sadam was in power?

Because if we left right now there is no telling on if the region would stabilze. We are ocupiers right now and bring attacks on ourself as being so..
You asked, I told you what the "idea" was. I did not anticipate that being a lead-in question for you to upchuck your opinion.

Well as far as we know your version of staying the course is the same kinda upchuck.. I really have no idea what our course of action for Iraq is and I don't know if we ever had a plan laid down for them. Other then giving them democratic elections, which we did, or building a police force, as far as I know we did that too.

It really wasn't a lead-in question it's a serious thought, did we ever have any real idea of how we were going to rebuild the country? Or was it a half assed attemped to do the right thing by an administration that doesn't seem to really think things through?

2006-10-23 11:19:38

#19

The_Shipbuilder: Stay the corpse; +261|6756|Los Angeles

Note the new and improved video in the OP

2006-10-23 11:24:54

#20

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6952|NJ

I can't belive he said that they where never about stay the course. No ONE knows what the course is, so he could do whatever he wants and say it's staying the course.

2006-10-23 11:27:06

#21

chittydog: less busy; +586|7091|Kubra, Damn it!

The_Shipbuilder wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
It's just slang for finish the job. Big deal is it?
Not for me - for me it's just funny to watch the Bush administration implode. Not to mention flip-flopping on the single most important issue in our country today. Guess from now on we won't be hearing much about Dems being flip floppers eh?

It IS going to be a big deal for Republican voters though. They don't believe in gray areas or nuance - they want simplicity in binary. Policy explained by simple slogans. Three years of "we stay the course - they cut and run" now followed up by this fantastic punchline? That is not going to sit well with Jim-Bob Sixpack and his wife Marylou.

Edit: grammar

It won't be a problem. Jim-Bob & Marylou don't remember anything that happened before last week.

2006-10-23 11:43:31

#22

Masques: Black Panzer Party; +184|6978|Eastern PA

Pernicious544 wrote:
well, he IS a few freedom fries short of a happy meal

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