topal63
. . .
+533|7021

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

LeadSled wrote:

...As for Arty ever 7 secs LOL that is just a commander on the ball. This makes me laugh about re-supply drops and Arty disappearing ROFL , I for one shoot them from the jet before they hit the ground if no  friendlies around and take out all enemy resoures( Coms, NAV and Arty)  with few bombs drops .
That's bullshit.  The arty, without hacks, requires far more time than 7 seconds to regenerate.  The normal arty regeneration time is about 3 minutes.  Any team that can fire arty faster than that has hacks running.
Your right and yet maybe-specific-timewise-wrong?

It is not 7 secs - FOR SURE!

But I am not sure about the 3 minutes thingy. . . it seems a bit faster than that . . but maybe not?

Anyway,

1.) There is a commander HACK seen it in action - what do you do? Leave that server permanently.

He is a secret second commander even, ordering his own arty-strikes and dropping extra supplies
where and whenever he wants.

2.) Skin-type HACK, seen screen shots of it, but this is impossible to detect for PB and impossible for
you to detect as in game behavior - knowing your exact position can be due to:

The HACK (You glow red or blue)
or
Being spotted
or
UAV
or
The guy actually saw you go into what you think is good hiding place.

3.) There is a definetly different forms of an accuracy HACK, it I think is combined with the Skin-type HACK,

a.) It calculates your position based upon the mouse input portion + the color of opponents pixels
Glowing red or blue and replaces the coordinates you actually shot with coordinates on the
the differentiated target (based on pixel-color); therefor every shot hits.

b.) I think the random cone of error is also HACKED,
therefor every shot is accurate

4.) There are spawn/or/invisible ladder HACKS.

a.) I experienced an underground man HACK yesterday,

My whole team was dumbfounded - the UAV showed the guy right NEXT to a FLAG!
The flag would not go up! We had tanks, choppers, MG, assault-guys, everyone! shooting at
every place around the flag - no luck - for 3 minutes we did this; then the round ended.

b.) I've seen guys spawn deep in enemy territory as soon as the game began!

c.) Saw this the other day, guys in Karkand, ON TOP OF BUILDINGS, you can get on TOP OF!

I was commander and arty-striked them, they were on my team, what did they do?
Spawned on top of another building you can get on top of! Ordered their own arty-strike
& supplies! Oh well I leaft that server.

5.) There is a NO-FOG HACK.

You can't see them - they can see you - this I guess would help long distance sniping.

6.) There is an AIMBOT HACK, someone once said it is not possible in BF2, that's BS,
it's possible.

Some AT guys are pretty good - I am - but:

I witnessed an aimbot in action once - FOR SURE! An anti-tank guy killed everything
with max. damage on every tank, and any person he casually looked at, I swithed sides just to
observe - he was not that good - it was definately a HACK.

7.) I have seen insta-reload HACKS in action as well.


Are there more? I don't know I guess. . .

The solution is not PB, but excellent ADMINS and/or PASSWORD protected servers; you will eventually
need an invite to play on servers that are FUN & hack-free maybe - I guess.

Last edited by topal63 (2005-12-13 17:05:31)

DRB_Black
Member
+0|7017|Sacramento, California
How about the ghost players?  I have moved into a position in a low crawl, nobody around, nothing on the hud then suddenly OOPH  I get killed with a knife out of no where. WTF?
Echo
WOoKie
+383|7023|The Netherlands
http://msxsecurity.com/csh/index.php?page=bf2mh  check out the screenies on that page, thats really sick if u ask me.

Well now we know how the unlimited arti and supply crates are possible, its 1 of the "amazing" features of that particular hack.
RKF77
Member
+1|7054
Jeebus, people....can we PLEASE stop linking to the site so every little smacktarded stat whore that wants a Navy Cross can go download it?  Please?
earth.citizen
Member
+4|7042|Miami, FL

cmdwedge wrote:

Mate, that all sounds very bloody sus to me.

There's a few times that I've been one shot killed by guys who just round a corner.. makes you wonder. The fact is that there ARE hacks out there and Punkbuster really just seems to be for decoration.
There are ample Internet sites that will teach you how to circumnavigate Punkbuster for any popular game. Punkbuster is like a car door lock. It only stops the honest.
idiotofwar
Jet Rammer
+4|7030|Debris From Space
I have never experienced hacking. Maybe because i stick to EA Europe servers. No hackers there, plus the teams are fair most of the time.

Last edited by idiotofwar (2005-12-13 13:22:13)

M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7034|Peoria, Illinois
"I experienced an underground man HACK yesterday"

That could have been me. I was underground on Mashtuur near the mosque. I first spawned at the Hotel, made a jihad jeep and headed over to the mosque to kill the tank sitting there. When I hopped out on the move to hit the detonater, I somehow got stuck and started "skating" across the square. I couldn't stop moving and couldn't turn or anything. I was pretty much glued to the ground. When I hit my prone key, It somehow dropped me into this giant 6 ft. deep hole under the square.

I was able to move around down there too. My friend saw my name tag on the ground but couldn't see me. I fired a shot at my friend to see if i could shoot out and sure enough it hit him. When he tried to shoot me it just skipped off the ground. It was like a one way shield. I was able to climb out of it without any problems but couldn't get back down there when I tried to recreate the situation. It was one heck of a glitch that could have gone to my advantage if I wanted it too. No hack that I know of since I didn't see anyone else on my team doing it.

Oh yeah, caught it all on Fraps video too.
misfire00
Lead Magnet
+26|7084|Charleston SC - USA

Schizferatu wrote:

You’re a commander and place deliveries to your team and the cursor is ¼” on 1x off to the Southeast.
I don't think this one is a hack.  It only seems to happen on that P.O.S. Zatar Wetlands (er whatever it's called) map.
Your right. I found out after I posted that its a glitch on Zatar. If you command there do all of your drops on 2x view.
topal63
. . .
+533|7021

M1-Lightning wrote:

"I experienced an underground man HACK yesterday"

That could have been me. I was underground on Mashtuur near the mosque. I first spawned at the Hotel, made a jihad jeep and headed over to the mosque to kill the tank sitting there. When I hopped out on the move to hit the detonater, I somehow got stuck and started "skating" across the square. I couldn't stop moving and couldn't turn or anything. I was pretty much glued to the ground. When I hit my prone key, It somehow dropped me into this giant 6 ft. deep hole under the square.

I was able to move around down there too. My friend saw my name tag on the ground but couldn't see me. I fired a shot at my friend to see if i could shoot out and sure enough it hit him. When he tried to shoot me it just skipped off the ground. It was like a one way shield. I was able to climb out of it without any problems but couldn't get back down there when I tried to recreate the situation. It was one heck of a glitch that could have gone to my advantage if I wanted it too. No hack that I know of since I didn't see anyone else on my team doing it.

Oh yeah, caught it all on Fraps video too.
NOPE

It was on Dalian Plant; it was not a glitch. And that squad had at least one other HACK:
Some kind of Insta-spawn/Spawn anywhere HACK.
topal63
. . .
+533|7021

General-Echo wrote:

//......//  check out the screenies on that page, thats really sick if u ask me.

Well now we know how the unlimited arti and supply crates are possible, its 1 of the "amazing" features of that particular hack.
PLEASE stop posting links to THIS SITE. . .

I believe this not to be TRUE,
What I mean is, yes there are obviously HACKS out-there. . .

1.) BUT this site might to be the creation of a RIP-OFF artist luring noobs in looking for a HACK.
or
2.) A real site - and you're encouraging people to access it.
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7034|Peoria, Illinois

topal63 wrote:

M1-Lightning wrote:

"I experienced an underground man HACK yesterday"

That could have been me. I was underground on Mashtuur near the mosque. I first spawned at the Hotel, made a jihad jeep and headed over to the mosque to kill the tank sitting there. When I hopped out on the move to hit the detonater, I somehow got stuck and started "skating" across the square. I couldn't stop moving and couldn't turn or anything. I was pretty much glued to the ground. When I hit my prone key, It somehow dropped me into this giant 6 ft. deep hole under the square.

I was able to move around down there too. My friend saw my name tag on the ground but couldn't see me. I fired a shot at my friend to see if i could shoot out and sure enough it hit him. When he tried to shoot me it just skipped off the ground. It was like a one way shield. I was able to climb out of it without any problems but couldn't get back down there when I tried to recreate the situation. It was one heck of a glitch that could have gone to my advantage if I wanted it too. No hack that I know of since I didn't see anyone else on my team doing it.

Oh yeah, caught it all on Fraps video too.
NOPE

It was on Dalian Plant; it was not a glitch. And that squad had at least one other HACK:
Some kind of Insta-spawn/Spawn anywhere HACK.
How do you know it wasn't a glitch?
topal63
. . .
+533|7021

M1-Lightning wrote:

topal63 wrote:

M1-Lightning wrote:

"I experienced an underground man HACK yesterday"

That could have been me. I was underground on Mashtuur near the mosque. I first spawned at the Hotel, made a jihad jeep and headed over to the mosque to kill the tank sitting there. When I hopped out on the move to hit the detonater, I somehow got stuck and started "skating" across the square. I couldn't stop moving and couldn't turn or anything. I was pretty much glued to the ground. When I hit my prone key, It somehow dropped me into this giant 6 ft. deep hole under the square.

I was able to move around down there too. My friend saw my name tag on the ground but couldn't see me. I fired a shot at my friend to see if i could shoot out and sure enough it hit him. When he tried to shoot me it just skipped off the ground. It was like a one way shield. I was able to climb out of it without any problems but couldn't get back down there when I tried to recreate the situation. It was one heck of a glitch that could have gone to my advantage if I wanted it too. No hack that I know of since I didn't see anyone else on my team doing it.

Oh yeah, caught it all on Fraps video too.
NOPE

It was on Dalian Plant; it was not a glitch. And that squad had at least one other HACK:
Some kind of Insta-spawn/Spawn anywhere HACK.
How do you know it wasn't a glitch?
The base had UAV on it; he wasn't there; no enemy was there; then there was a red dot in front of the flag. . .
A bunch of confused players shooting everything and one guy typing. . .

"HA HA"

Some hackes are audacious & flaunt it!

Once in Karkand during a round,
I read on the screen:

"So how do you like your No-Fog HACK"
"Its awesome"

Ah yeah it was a HACK . . . I am not a confused noob. . . but thanx for thinking I was
TehSeraphim
Thread Ender
+58|7027|New Hampshire
"c.) Saw this the other day, guys in Karkand, ON TOP OF BUILDINGS, you can get on TOP OF!"

This isn't a hack - you can get on a lot of buildings by bringing a vodnik to the side and jumping on top of them.  Check out www.secretsofbattlefield.com to see what I mean...
topal63
. . .
+533|7021

TehSeraphim wrote:

"c.) Saw this the other day, guys in Karkand, ON TOP OF BUILDINGS, you can get on TOP OF!"

This isn't a hack - you can get on a lot of buildings by bringing a vodnik to the side and jumping on top of them.  Check out www.secretsofbattlefield.com to see what I mean...
Thanx for thinking I am a noob too!

They were not accessible by vodnik top; and most of those so-called secret places are not so secret!

And like I said before some hackers are audacious: they don't care if you know.

It was a ranked server; friendly fire is ON; & they were on-top of the TALLEST BUILDINGS that have no ladders.

"I typed hey you on top of that building!"
"There is no ladder to get up there"

He typed back,

"Oh yes there is, you just can't see it - LOL"

I am no longer in player mode, when this kind of stuff happens, I automatically switch to observer-mode,
it is just my nature.

So there they are - on the roof of the Tallest-Building next to the Train-Wreck, a squad, one guy is supply, the other 2 or 3 are constantly throwing grenades off at nothing?

I play out the round, then become commander next round, instantly they are on the TALLEST ROOF at the 1st MEC flag raining down grenades and C4 to whoever shows up + they already have a supply box I DIDN'T give them,

I wait till I have art.y and the wipe them out - isntantly (well 15 secs latter) they are back on the Tallest-Building next to the Train-Wreck, like last round, same squad, 4 guys constantly throwing grenades off at nothing & they have a supply box.

It was a HACK!

Last edited by topal63 (2005-12-13 16:47:08)

M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7034|Peoria, Illinois

topal63 wrote:

TehSeraphim wrote:

"c.) Saw this the other day, guys in Karkand, ON TOP OF BUILDINGS, you can get on TOP OF!"

This isn't a hack - you can get on a lot of buildings by bringing a vodnik to the side and jumping on top of them.  Check out www.secretsofbattlefield.com to see what I mean...
Thanx for thinking I am a noob too!

They were not accessible by vodnik top; and most of those so-called secret places are not so secret!

And like I said before some hackers are audacious: they don't care if you know.

It was a ranked server; friendly fire is ON; & they were on-top of the TALLEST BUILDINGS that have no ladders.

"I typed hey you on top of that building!"
"There is no ladder to get up there"

He typed back,

"Oh yes there is, you just can't see it - LOL"

I am no longer in player mode, when this kind of stuff happens, I automatically switch to observer-mode,
it is just my nature.

So there they are - on the roof of the Tallest-Building next to the Train-Wreck, a squad, one guy is supply, the other 2 or 3 are constantly throwing grenades off at nothing?

I play out the round the become commander next round, instantly they are on the TALLEST ROOF at the 1st MEC flag raining down grenades and C4 to whoever shows up + they already have a supply box I DIDN'T give them,

I wait till I have art.y and the wipe them out - isntantly (well 15 secs latter) they are back on the Tallest-Building next to the Train-Wreck, like last round, same squad, 4 guys constantly throwing grenades off at nothing & they have a supply box.

It was a HACK!
Name the server.
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7034|Peoria, Illinois

topal63 wrote:

M1-Lightning wrote:

topal63 wrote:


NOPE

It was on Dalian Plant; it was not a glitch. And that squad had at least one other HACK:
Some kind of Insta-spawn/Spawn anywhere HACK.
How do you know it wasn't a glitch?
The base had UAV on it; he wasn't there; no enemy was there; then there was a red dot in front of the flag. . .
A bunch of confused players shooting everything and one guy typing. . .

"HA HA"

Some hackes are audacious & flaunt it!

Once in Karkand during a round,
I read on the screen:

"So how do you like your No-Fog HACK"
"Its awesome"

Ah yeah it was a HACK . . . I am not a confused noob. . . but thanx for thinking I was
I could have typed "ha ha" when I was underground too, but it doesn't make it a hack. I was accused of a no fog hack once and my buddy was typing the same crap just to tease the n00b. That doesn't make it a hack. Let's see some screen shots with server IPs and name tags, then we can judge. Too many people cry hack at the unexplained.
topal63
. . .
+533|7021
Name the server?

Is this a test . . . ?


I remember the server name
& I remember the players ID.s.
I remember the players ID with aimbot hack as well. . .

I play on hundreds of servers . . . and not wanting to give the server a bad name. . .  because an ADMIN was probably not present when this happened.

I will opt out of and NOT answer your insipid & possibly indignant question.

And I opt out of naming names even though the behavior + comments made it obvious.

You might think it a moral outrage to have a game with a hack, I do NOT, nor do CARE. I am only relaying information.

Last edited by topal63 (2005-12-13 17:06:43)

topal63
. . .
+533|7021

M1-Lightning wrote:

topal63 wrote:

M1-Lightning wrote:


How do you know it wasn't a glitch?
The base had UAV on it; he wasn't there; no enemy was there; then there was a red dot in front of the flag. . .
A bunch of confused players shooting everything and one guy typing. . .

"HA HA"

Some hackes are audacious & flaunt it!

Once in Karkand during a round,
I read on the screen:

"So how do you like your No-Fog HACK"
"Its awesome"

Ah yeah it was a HACK . . . I am not a confused noob. . . but thanx for thinking I was
I could have typed "ha ha" when I was underground too, but it doesn't make it a hack. I was accused of a no fog hack once and my buddy was typing the same crap just to tease the n00b. That doesn't make it a hack. Let's see some screen shots with server IPs and name tags, then we can judge. Too many people cry hack at the unexplained.
It is instesting how you selectively dismiss the core:info presented; as I could have typed "HA HA" too.

I was paying attention,
They insta-spawned in enemy territory when the game began.
+
There was a UAV on the FLAG - no enemy - then there was one underground.
+
It was funny to watch an entirely confused team.
Rascapillion
Member
+1|7022|Michigan

dshak wrote:

I think BF is close to being ruined, or well on its way.
Yup. Pretty Much.

Can't play Karkand because its covered with tank whore spawn campers...

Can't deal with these bugs...

Can't deal wtih hacks...

Can't deal with 6 seperate 1 person squads...

Can't deal with not finding a decent server...

The last one has been a huge problem for me.  I can't find a decent server with people who want to win using teamwork.  I never had a problem when i first started playing but now i do.
Aquastorm
Last of the Uchiha
+4|7016|Hong Kong, China

Rascapillion wrote:

dshak wrote:

I think BF is close to being ruined, or well on its way.
Yup. Pretty Much.

Can't play Karkand because its covered with tank whore spawn campers...

Can't deal with these bugs...

Can't deal wtih hacks...

Can't deal with 6 seperate 1 person squads...

Can't deal with not finding a decent server...

The last one has been a huge problem for me.  I can't find a decent server with people who want to win using teamwork.  I never had a problem when i first started playing but now i do.
Sucks when everyone's a noob tuber or a Rambo, 1 man squad, doesn't it?
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7072|Human Meat Shield
Aren't there other games out there?
Nufuhsus
Member
+0|7145|Atlanta (Metro) USA

pfcilng wrote:

I did hear about a hack on a thread here a few weeks ago that will let you drop artillery without having to wait for the reload time.  But all the rest seems new to me - was this on a ranked server?
I have seen this on Karkand. Just the other night as a MoF. Nearly 30 Secs. or ARTY!! 30 seconds of ARTY!!? That ain't right...
The Soup Nazi
Member
+18|7090|North Lauderdale, FL
the only way that i know that would help alleviate the problems would be to implement a spectator mode that allows the spectator to follow any active player.  the pseudo-spectator mode they have now is only third person.  if it could in first-person, you could get an idea of whether or not the suspected cheater is able to "see" or do things that honest players cannot.

also, the ability to record a demo of the player that you're spectating is also paramount.  that way, if the admin decides to ban the player from their server, they have some sort of proof that the player was indeed cheating.

this is standard in Counter-Strike.  why can't it be in BF2, also?

Last edited by The Soup Nazi (2005-12-14 08:17:45)

Nufuhsus
Member
+0|7145|Atlanta (Metro) USA

Omnimalice wrote:

I'm on a single-player kick right now- after last weekend I'd rather kill bots than go online. Fuck 'em.
I hear you Bro. 'Specially with the 32 Bot mod. I only wish I could play Mashtuur in SP.

A side note to those of us who have yet to get the SF XP Pack. I think we may have to give in in order to continue doing what we do. If you don't get it, that is ok cause I dont get it either but ... whatever.
1234BGD
Member
+1|7053
I suggest we find them. Locate them and cut their little fingers with garden scissors. Then we can say we owned them - lifetime ban for hacking BF2.

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