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The game looks awesome in full detail.
I fully agree with the dodgey auto-cover, and the AI cheats like mad but I think the game is good, it gets Bloody hard about 7-8 missions into the campaign
At the end of the day it is another RTS (that looks sweet) it does nothing out of the ordinary to make it the must have game of the year. I do like the commander points part of the game as a little something extra to work on.
Over here in the uk you get Dawn of War GOTY edition with CoH so to me it made it a worth while purchase

Jinto-sk wrote:

Over here in the uk you get Dawn of War GOTY edition with CoH so to me it made it a worth while purchase

Oh my god, you lucky bastard. I could've given that copy of DoW to a friend, and played online.

My main complaint about CoH AI is, aside from the cruddy autocover system, is the fact that all the computer has to do to disrupt your supplies is to take some random point in the middle of your map. This wouldn't be so bad if it was easy to create units to defend, but your maximum allocation is pretty damn thin and there's absolutely no way to effectively plug up. And you're pretty much on your own in your little localized skirmish war, without any outside supply support. Even C&C Generals had supply drop zones.

I've pretty much lost any respect I've had for the previously prestigious 'PC Gamer Editors' Choice' award. They were too wowed by the effects and the physics engine to pay attention to long-term playability, and this shows in the relatively dismal number of servers running.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-10-13 01:10:04)

CoH is the best strategy-game in years. I used to play Generals for quite a long time and CoH is about to replace it. The multi-player-mode is fast and takes a lot of skill...only these damn disconnects are disturbing the fun...

Reciprocity wrote:

sithao wrote:

thats why u should of got it through torrent - torrent = free

is there someone around here that can delete this post and ban this member?  douche bags like you are the reason games are getting shittier and shittier.

you called

It's a combo of Greedy Companies, revenue stress, stupid release dates, and pushed production.  and they all contribute to each other.  They seem to be at least trying to solve the pushed production problem by modifying the industry conventions i.e. E3.  As for the price,  they always go up, like everything else.

I generally don't mind paying $50+ for a game as opposed to a $15 DVD because when's the last time a Movie gave you 1000 hours of entertainment?  Just going to the movies now can costs $15-25 per person.

I've blown $50 on a game that i play for all of 3 hours (i'm looking at you, Quake 4 box).  And at the same time, I have fond memories of guiding Sam Fisher through Enemy infested office buildings.  so yeah, sometimes it's a roll of the dice. 

some places in California your looking at $10+ for tickets now.  Even here in rural Oregon, it's $8+ for an evening ticket.  And I'm too lazy now to be sneaking stuff in, back in high school,  it was different story.

Reciprocity wrote:

a. I've blown $50 on a game that i play for all of 3 hours (i'm looking at you, Quake 4 box).  And at the same time, I have fond memories of guiding Sam Fisher through Enemy infested office buildings.  so yeah, sometimes it's a roll of the dice. 

b. some places in California your looking at $10+ for tickets now.  Even here in rural Oregon, it's $8+ for an evening ticket.  And I'm too lazy now to be sneaking stuff in, back in high school,  it was different story.

a. Amen, brother. I slogged through the latter half of Quake 4 just to feel like I made good on the purchase. And Sam Fisher ftw (47, too).

b. Well, they're cheap here in Washington. My local Regal is $7, and the one where I live's only $5. As for the difficulty of sneaking stuff in...what's hard about it? Go to a 7-11, grab some candy and a bottle of soda, and go into the theater with it. One time, just to experiment, I had a giant bottle of Sprite clenched in my fist out in plain view, and the ticket-taker said absolutely nothing about it.

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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

#  pathing and incomplete 'auto-cover' code

When you take an infantry unit and mouseover cover in the map you get an indicator of the troop formation and color coded designation for the quality of cover. When you just leave it up to the computer to find cover in a firefight they might not allways find the best cover ..Thats really your fault not the game's.

I noticed and liked that 'Full Spectrum Warrior' aspect, but it is flawed. Sometimes, when I tell them to hide behind an obstacle like a sandbag wall, one of them will decide out of the blue to go stand in front of it, or even further out into the middle of the road instead. Also, I was expecting them to run for cover when under fire, not just hit the dirt and crawl around in circles. They talked about it so much in developer interviews, that I thought it would actually be done.

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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

AI's instamanagement and omniobservation abilities, even on easy mode

I'm sure this is attributed to your skill and experience level. I'm not the masterr and I can keep up with and beat expert with little problems.

It's not my biggest point of contention, but with the way resource intake works and how easy it is to cut it off leaves me without much time watch the graphic spectacle of firefights, as I'm hurriedly ordering infantry and vehicles around to counter every group of engineers attacking that supposedly unimportant farmhouse out in the middle of nowhere.

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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

irrelevancy of awards; invisible in your online profile

You want easily won single player awards to be relevant in solo ?..

The music is awesome too. I'd agree the singleplayer's not so fufilling. Not the worst not the best but what you really paid for is the multiplayer which is the best around imo. It's the deepest rts in combat mechanics wise and you being a warhammer fan should appriciate the focus on combat management instead of resource gathering.

There's no e-penis incentive to even go for the awards. You just see them glistening in your campaign menu.

Not the worst, and not the best. I couldn't agree more. If only the demo allowed online play, perhaps I could get some of my friends interested in it for just that aspect. Yeah, I'm a DoW fan, and I do appreciate the focus on combat management. But unlike DoW, it's just too expensive to button up your resource nodes. One feature I would appreciate is a constant flow of resources from the outside, just to lighten it up a bit. Maybe at least some more maps without expecting me to pay $30 for an expansion.

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Heres a few videos I made.

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A man after my own heart. I love building up ludicrous forces in RTS's just to pound the enemy flat right afterwards. However, C&C Generals only limits you're numbers by how many can physically fit inside the map. Nothing quite like ordering two-hundred jets to 'guard' a small area, or just dropping 50 nukes on an enemy base all within the span of 20 seconds.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-10-13 03:36:36)

unnamednewbie13 :
I think you are wrong, very wrong.
CoH was meant to be an RTS like no other, it was meant to be something exhilarating, great, new, modern.

CoH has successfully implemented all that into the game, and more.
The AI is beyond the reach of any other games developer. How many RTS have you seen when the AI does pretty much everything perfect? And if you dont do stuff right it anihilates you off the map?

yes maybe, the tank AI + the infantry AI gets a bit muddled. But guys, give them the benefit of the doubt.
The game is nearly perfect. In every way, yes you might need a hugely powerful computer to enjoy the graphical neatness.

But all the same, how many RTS games that are not relic have you been able to zoom in right up to their eyes, and watch every bullet get fired and throw away.
How many RTS games implement the fact that humans are not perfect and that they miss the target?

You, my friend, are very enclosed into BF2, as I do not think one other big RTS fan or CoH would comment about the awards. This, people, is the next generation RTS, it is one of a kind for now. It is a game that includes everything you have wanted in an RTS, and more.
If you play FPS 24/7, dont comment on this game, as your views will be very biased and different to any other.

This is my general opinion, and PC GAMER was right. It deserved what it got.

Good game, Dark Crusade is my next item on the list. But like you said, everyone took it! I want my Necrons!

Dark Crusade is much betta. Dawn of War FTW!