usmarine
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061012/ap_ … rn_ireland

"The IRA killed 1,775 people — including nearly 300 police officers — from 1970 to a 1997 cease-fire."

Would the IRA have been classified as terrorists, insurgents, or something else?
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6558|Ohio
A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.

Remember, some Brits considered the American Revolutionists terrorists.... some sympathisized.
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6605|Cheshire. UK
They were terrorists and still are hiding behind a political puppet

Last edited by joker3327 (2006-10-12 14:30:03)

EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6558|UK
Terrorists.
david363
Crotch fires and you: the untold story
+314|6746|Comber, Northern Ireland
thanx for bringing this up
usmarine
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david363 wrote:

thanx for bringing this up
Have to throw a curve ball every once and a while.
CameronPoe
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Originally guerrilla freedom fighters hijacked by petty thieves, drug pushers and organised crime. They did commit true acts of terror so I guess you would have to call them terrorists. They did a cause in which I believe in no justice whatsoever. Those from the original IRA (the IRB as it was then) would have been turning in their graves in the 70s and 80s.

Not to detract from the callous acts of murder they committed but I'd like to see the number of Irish killed, starved or forced to emigrate by the brits over the past 800 years.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-12 14:44:30)

CameronPoe
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joker3327 wrote:

They were terrorists and still are hiding behind a political puppet
That's funny - they don't have any weapons anymore and there's a general amnesty for all paramilitary organisations that were signed up to the Good Friday Agreement so I don't get why they would feel compelled to hide.
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
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I find it funny that as soon as there's a new bully in the world "Al-Quaeda" the IRA the pussies stop "all major operations".

It just shows that all terrorists no matter what they are fighting for have no balls.

Pathetic.
CameronPoe
Member
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ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:

I find it funny that as soon as there's a new bully in the world "Al-Quaeda" the IRA the pussies stop "all major operations".

It just shows that all terrorists no matter what they are fighting for have no balls.

Pathetic.
That's exactly the kind of attitude we need isn't it? Are you aware that the peace process that has resulted in the IRA cessation of operations started LONG BEFORE 9/11, etc? That kind of attitude is what makes a paramilitary organisation continue its operations - noone likes to say 'We surrender' and that kind of attitude would certainly deter such an organisation from moving towards dropping its weapons.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-12 14:47:00)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6764|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

david363 wrote:

thanx for bringing this up
Have to throw a curve ball every once and a while.
I think it was your 4th ball and the batter is walking to first base.
david363
Crotch fires and you: the untold story
+314|6746|Comber, Northern Ireland

ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:

I find it funny that as soon as there's a new bully in the world "Al-Quaeda" the IRA the pussies stop "all major operations".

It just shows that all terrorists no matter what they are fighting for have no balls.

Pathetic.
maybe if u actually bothered to do some research on this topic u would find out the the IRA have been caught in various Arab country's teaching todays modern terrorists techniques and skills, and they have no balls? I'm sorry did they not hijack planes and crash into the world trade center and the pentagon? are u saying to do that they must of had no balls?
EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6558|UK

CameronPoe wrote:

Originally guerrilla freedom fighters hijacked by petty thieves, drug pushers and organised crime. They did commit true acts of terror so I guess you would have to call them terrorists. They did a cause in which I believe in no justice whatsoever. Those from the original IRA (the IRB as it was then) would have been turning in their graves in the 70s and 80s.

Not to detract from the callous acts of murder they committed but I'd like to see the number of Irish killed, starved or forced to emigrate by the brits over the past 800 years.
So are you saying the IRA aren't really terrorists because they were provoked?
CameronPoe
Member
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EricTViking wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Originally guerrilla freedom fighters hijacked by petty thieves, drug pushers and organised crime. They did commit true acts of terror so I guess you would have to call them terrorists. They did a cause in which I believe in no justice whatsoever. Those from the original IRA (the IRB as it was then) would have been turning in their graves in the 70s and 80s.

Not to detract from the callous acts of murder they committed but I'd like to see the number of Irish killed, starved or forced to emigrate by the brits over the past 800 years.
So are you saying the IRA aren't really terrorists because they were provoked?
Can you not read or something?
CameronPoe
Member
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This topic is about the IRA but as a balance I would invite non-Island of Ireland types to check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac … rn_Ireland

The reason being that they rarely hear anything other than news related solely to the IRA.
EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6558|UK

CameronPoe wrote:

This topic is about the IRA but as a balance I would invite non-Island of Ireland types to check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac … rn_Ireland

The reason being that they rarely hear anything other than news related solely to the IRA.
The "war's" over poe - your side lost. Live with it.
CameronPoe
Member
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EricTViking wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

This topic is about the IRA but as a balance I would invite non-Island of Ireland types to check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac … rn_Ireland

The reason being that they rarely hear anything other than news related solely to the IRA.
The "war's" over poe - your side lost. Live with it.
LOL. I guess you haven't seen the demographic projections in Northern Ireland and don't realise the fact that I live in a completely independent sovereign republic that isn't even so much as a member of the commonwealth. LOL. Best economy in Europe too. I really feel like I lost hahahaha.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-12 15:21:23)

EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6558|UK

CameronPoe wrote:

EricTViking wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

This topic is about the IRA but as a balance I would invite non-Island of Ireland types to check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac … rn_Ireland

The reason being that they rarely hear anything other than news related solely to the IRA.
The "war's" over poe - your side lost. Live with it.
LOL. I guess you haven't seen the demographic projections in Northern Ireland and don't realise the fact that I live in a completely independent sovereign republic that isn't even so much as a member of the commonwealth. LOL. Best economy in Europe too. I really feel like I lost hahahaha.
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Capt. Foley
Member
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Well Im glad to know that you guys made a country out of killing civilians that were doing NO HARM towards your country. America was founded on war, I know that, and I also know some Loyalists were killed over here who were thought to be loyal to Britain or known to be supporting them. At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence. I am a Irish Catholic and the IRA makes me sick.
CameronPoe
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CameronPoe
Member
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Capt. Foley wrote:

Well Im glad to know that you guys made a country out of killing civilians that were doing NO HARM towards your country. America was founded on war, I know that, and I also know some Loyalists were killed over here who were thought to be loyal to Britain or known to be supporting them. At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence. I am a Irish Catholic and the IRA makes me sick.
Out of your depth Foley, even though your name is soooo Irish. The Irish didn't make a country out of killing civilians - we made a country out of killing B specials, the Black and Tans, the British army and the RIC back in the 1910/20s and numerous rebellions in the preceding 800 years. Don't mix that up with what is/was going on in the north. The IRB never blew up any churches. The Republic of Ireland was built exactly the same way the USA was built (except that we always lived on this damp little island, unlike the 'Americans' in America).

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-12 16:11:43)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6691|United States of America

MorbidFetus wrote:

A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.

Remember, some Brits considered the American Revolutionists terrorists.... some sympathisized.
Traitors moreso than terrorists. The Revolutionary War was the military conflict, though. The American Revolution was the change of ideology leading up to the war.

CameronPoe wrote:

Out of your depth Foley, even though your name is soooo Irish.
I believe that is Captain Foley, the character in Call of Duty.

Last edited by DesertFox423 (2006-10-12 15:39:02)

Capt. Foley
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

Capt. Foley wrote:

Well Im glad to know that you guys made a country out of killing civilians that were doing NO HARM towards your country. America was founded on war, I know that, and I also know some Loyalists were killed over here who were thought to be loyal to Britain or known to be supporting them. At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence. I am a Irish Catholic and the IRA makes me sick.
Out of your depth Foley, even though your name is soooo Irish. The Irish didn't make a country out of killing civilians - we made a country out of killing B specials, the Black and Tans, the British army and the RIC back in the 1910/20s and numerous rebellions in the preceding 800 years. Don't mix that up with what is/was going on in the north. The IRB never blew up any churches. The Republic of Ireland was built exactly the same way the USA was built.
Well first the name is from another game. Call of Duty. The rest...well mabey I am out of my depth, but from what Ive seen/heard that is what Ive figured out.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6498|Northern California
I saw patriot games.  Sean Bean is cool.  That's about all I know about the IRA.

Oh, and Sinn Fein was the/a leader of the IRA and he agreed to a disarmament a few years ago which was cool, and it worked and is still in effect.  Sinn Fein looks like the lead singer of Alabama to me.
CameronPoe
Member
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IRONCHEF wrote:

I saw patriot games.  Sean Bean is cool.  That's about all I know about the IRA.

Oh, and Sinn Fein was the/a leader of the IRA and he agreed to a disarmament a few years ago which was cool, and it worked and is still in effect.  Sinn Fein looks like the lead singer of Alabama to me.
LOL.

Sinn Féin is a political party. It literally means 'Ourselves Alone'. I think you're talking about Gerry Adams. I can't blame you for making the mistake given that you lives thousands of miles from here.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-12 16:08:29)

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