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2006-10-07 08:14:12
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6679|Tyne & Wear, England
I know similar topics have been discussed time and time again but this is about my opinion, experiences and recommendations and the thread is therefore unique, so search flamers can kiss my ass.

I almost exclusively play Special Forces so my sniper rifle of choice which would be the L96A1 was usually replaced by the M95.  However i have recently begun playing with the M24...and holy shit...that thing just cannot miss, it's so easy to get head shots.  Honestly if you used to use the M95 just try the M24.  My already high sniper accuracy has skyrocketed and i notched 40 kills vs 4 deaths in a relatively quick round today.  I know a lot of people already know this but its just some friendly advice to any newbies who perhaps haven't discovered the awesomeness of the M24.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2006-10-07 08:53:00
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6956
Yep true that the M24 is a fantastic gun and your right its headshot city when using it.

But when I'm playing Russian forces etc the M95 is a really useful weapon mostly on Ghost Town for chopper pilots that are taking off or hovering above a flag, nothing better than taking out a pilot hovering and watching the chopper go into a spin, while the gunner justs sits there wondering what happening until it crashes.

Myself if I'm playing SAS or US then the M24 a must.

Playing as any other forces than it really depends on the map.

Large maps or Ghost town M95.

Smaller maps or Warlord SVD owns.

Just remember when using the M95 make sure you are crouched or prone other wise it nearly always misses.
2006-10-07 09:01:58
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6679|Tyne & Wear, England

paranoid101 wrote:

nothing better than taking out a pilot hovering and watching the chopper go into a spin, while the gunner justs sits there wondering what happening until it crashes.
QFT

Yeah i make a living from ghost town, i nearly always play it.  But even when im SAS i use the M24 now and not the M95, i just cant resist the headthots.  However like you say with Spetz the M95 is usefull and I use that as opposed to the SVD.  When im playing SAS i do miss sniping the choppers tho, what you say above is so so true.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2006-10-07 09:21:34
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6745|Belgium
Yeah +1 and i made the same discovery in SF too.

In fact, ive noticed none of the sniper unlocks are better than any of the stocks
SVD is even better on Ghost Town (/any map) actually
2006-10-07 10:14:07
howler_27
Member
+90|6903
I love the M24 as well.  Classic rifle right there.  I havn't had the best of luck with the SVD.  I agree it's rapid rate of fire is an advantage at times, but I just can't seem to get the sights right.  Always end up haveing to take a few extra shots at the head vs the M24.
2006-10-07 10:17:52
InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|6860|Cumberland, MD, USA
I love the M24 for longer shots, but the thick crosshairs of the M95 make close sniping (with armies that don't have semi-auto's) such as USMC Karkand, SAS Warlord, etc... much easier. Target acquisition is faster with those thick crosshairs for some reason.
2006-10-07 12:04:44
XISIX
Member
+116|6831
hrmmm......

Interesting.
Have to check it out sometime. 
Got that habit of always going to unlocks first so I'll try to break habit.
2006-10-07 12:37:44
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6745|Belgium

howler_27 wrote:

I love the M24 as well.  Classic rifle right there.  I havn't had the best of luck with the SVD.  I agree it's rapid rate of fire is an advantage at times, but I just can't seem to get the sights right.  Always end up haveing to take a few extra shots at the head vs the M24.
I had that too, but now its the other way round im more used to the SVD's ^ that im slower with the M24 than i used to be
2006-10-07 18:29:42
The_Jester
Member
+52|6707|Italy
M24=L96 with a better look.
With other words, it owns.

And whoever uses the M95 over the SVD on maps like Mass Destruction or Surge is a complete noob...with fog at 100/180 meteres, wtf do you need a bolt action rifle for?
2006-10-07 18:38:46
~Smokey~
Steve Irwin Reincarnate
+396|6754|Internetfitlerland

I snipe in vanilla, but SF+Me+Sniping=Bad, whilst SF+Me+Medic Whoring=Gold Medals
2006-10-07 18:42:04
ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ
Banned
+69|6717
60% accuracy but a 1.4 k/d ? I think you need to pull the trigger more often or something
2006-10-08 07:49:37
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6843|Warlord
Since I got my own copy of SF and started playing it regularly I've been forced to use the M95 and it's not quite as bad as I used to think but the M24 is just so much easier to use for tricky shots.

I'm actually not using the L96A1 in vanilla unless I have to, I now always go with the M24 if I'm USMC.


The_Jester wrote:

And whoever uses the M95 over the SVD on maps like Mass Destruction or Surge is a complete noob...with fog at 100/180 meteres, wtf do you need a bolt action rifle for?
LOL

Me > all the snipers using SVDs, on a typical day at the range.
2006-10-08 09:17:57
samfink
Member
+31|6771
wel, the M95 owns all others in one simnple regard- anti-material.
2006-10-08 09:19:26
0akleaves
Member
+183|6829|Newcastle UK
Dont take any advice from a mackum!!!
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
2006-10-08 10:50:49
The_Jester
Member
+52|6707|Italy

Todd_Angelo wrote:

The_Jester wrote:

And whoever uses the M95 over the SVD on maps like Mass Destruction or Surge is a complete noob...with fog at 100/180 meteres, wtf do you need a bolt action rifle for?
LOL

Me > all the snipers using SVDs, on a typical day at the range.
LOL


That's because there is a lot of snipers, but very few good snipers, especially on sf, where all they do is camping random roofs.

Really, there isn't any logic reason to use the noob cannon  (m95) as Spetsnaz, Rebel or Insurgent.

1st advantage: zoom magnification 5X vs 3,33X. Great advantage on vanilla maps like Wake, Oman or Dalian.
But  is it really necessary with max view distance at 100-200 meters?

2nd: target dead or down to 2 bars of life. But again, this is an advantage for noob snipers only.
I think a good sniper should kill most targets with 1 shot. And the last time I checked, a SVD headshot was an instant kill.
If a sniper constantly fails to headshot his targets, he should use a kit with an assault rifle or a carbine.

SVD huge advantage: semi-auto

I don't even consider the M95's capability to kill chopper pilots.
If a pilot is dumb enough to get headshotted while flying, he probably doesn't pose a threat anyway.
2006-10-08 11:00:54
samfink
Member
+31|6771
if I am SAS on wrlord, i sue M95. if I am insurgent,I use SVD.
2006-10-08 11:05:20
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|6749|Denmizzark!!

KILLSWITCH wrote:

I know similar topics have been discussed time and time again but this is about my opinion, experiences and recommendations and the thread is therefore unique, so search flamers can kiss my ass.

I almost exclusively play Special Forces so my sniper rifle of choice which would be the L96A1 was usually replaced by the M95.  However i have recently begun playing with the M24...and holy shit...that thing just cannot miss, it's so easy to get head shots.  Honestly if you used to use the M95 just try the M24.  My already high sniper accuracy has skyrocketed and i notched 40 kills vs 4 deaths in a relatively quick round today.  I know a lot of people already know this but its just some friendly advice to any newbies who perhaps haven't discovered the awesomeness of the M24.
True.. and othewise I would use the SVD, also easy headshots..
2006-10-08 11:15:15
seb--morin
Im high
+152|6856|Montréal, Québec
Its true that when u shot with M95 u have more chance of missing a Headshot then with the M94 but.....

You never know when ur gonna need to shot a pilot or a driver
I once owned USMC on their ship in Wake, OMG !!! it was sooo amazing there where always entering the chopper  to kill me or the Jet to fly aways as fast as they can but POW !!! and once u get thems in your crosshair, its 1 shot.
2006-10-08 11:22:42
Raptor1
Member
+19|6704
i try to kill the pilot with an M24 before he gets in a vehicle
2006-10-09 02:38:55
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6843|Warlord

The_Jester wrote:

That's because there is a lot of snipers, but very few good snipers, especially on sf, where all they do is camping random roofs.
Yep, very true. There are very few really good snipers, particularly using the SVD.

The_Jester wrote:

Really, there isn't any logic reason to use the noob cannon  (m95) as Spetsnaz, Rebel or Insurgent.
Doing better; is there any better reason?

The_Jester wrote:

1st advantage: zoom magnification 5X vs 3,33X. Great advantage on vanilla maps like Wake, Oman or Dalian.
But  is it really necessary with max view distance at 100-200 meters?
Necessary, no. You mentioned Surge and Mass Destruction specifically, and it would be rare to find an SVD user coming out as top sniper if there are a couple of decent guys playing the kit.

The_Jester wrote:

2nd: target dead or down to 2 bars of life. But again, this is an advantage for noob snipers only.
Careful, you might be insulting more people here than you'd expect

The_Jester wrote:

I think a good sniper should kill most targets with 1 shot.... If a sniper constantly fails to headshot his targets, he should use a kit with an assault rifle or a carbine.
Interesting. There are almost no players capable of this, you do realise?

The_Jester wrote:

SVD huge advantage: semi-auto
Only if you can get those headshots. Especially these days with guys using the G36C so well; good users of the L85A1 can also be a deadly opponent at the shorter ranges you might be working at.

The_Jester wrote:

I don't even consider the M95's capability to kill chopper pilots.
Agreed. It's usually a rare capability to take advantage of and is almost a gimmick.
2006-10-09 06:22:57
The_Jester
Member
+52|6707|Italy

Todd_Angelo wrote:

The_Jester wrote:

I think a good sniper should kill most targets with 1 shot.... If a sniper constantly fails to headshot his targets, he should use a kit with an assault rifle or a carbine.
Interesting. There are almost no players capable of this, you do realise?
I don't wanna turn this thread in another sniper debate, but what's the purpose of the kit then?
Imo, the single big advantage of sniper rifles (esp. bolt action) over assault rifles and carbines is the possibility to kill people easily with single shots from far away.

A sniper incapable of insta-killing people on a regular basis is just an annoyance, not a real threat.

From my point point of view, you are just saying "There are almost no players capable of using the kit".
2006-10-09 09:28:59
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6709

The_Jester wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

The_Jester wrote:

I think a good sniper should kill most targets with 1 shot.... If a sniper constantly fails to headshot his targets, he should use a kit with an assault rifle or a carbine.
Interesting. There are almost no players capable of this, you do realise?
I don't wanna turn this thread in another sniper debate, but what's the purpose of the kit then?
IMO, the single big advantage of sniper rifles (esp. bolt action) over assault rifles and carbines is the possibility to kill people easily with single shots from far away.

A sniper incapable of insta-killing people on a regular basis is just an annoyance, not a real threat.

From my point point of view, you are just saying "There are almost no players capable of using the kit".
If you can get an insta-kill every time you see someone and shoot then you must be a sniper god. No one in this hole game can say that every time they shoot at someone using the sniper kit it's one shot kill. It's impossible on this game.

And IMO the purpose of this kit is to help your team, if a sniper can shoot a group of people attacking your base but not kill them then they only have two bars of health left, making it so much easier for your team to take them out. People underestimate snipers, thinking that there a waste of time but they don't actually realize that a good sniper can help them out in more ways then one.

Sorry if my spelling is bad, I rushed this cuz I need to go.
2006-10-09 10:05:14
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6679|Tyne & Wear, England

The_Jester wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

The_Jester wrote:

I think a good sniper should kill most targets with 1 shot.... If a sniper constantly fails to headshot his targets, he should use a kit with an assault rifle or a carbine.
Interesting. There are almost no players capable of this, you do realise?
I don't wanna turn this thread in another sniper debate, but what's the purpose of the kit then?
Imo, the single big advantage of sniper rifles (esp. bolt action) over assault rifles and carbines is the possibility to kill people easily with single shots from far away.

A sniper incapable of insta-killing people on a regular basis is just an annoyance, not a real threat.

From my point point of view, you are just saying "There are almost no players capable of using the kit".
I agree with Jester on this one, most of the time I kill in a single shot, and as I said at the start the M24 is amazing for head shots and most of the time I get an instant kill.  Granted this is very difficult with a fast moving target, however when a target is stationary, nearly all of the time i get an instant kill.  IMO if you cant get head shot on a stationary target say 95% of the time then you are playing the wrong kit.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2006-11-07 19:49:24
Jornac
Member
+1|6597
Ive played IO Warlord many a time and one thing stands out.  It is very easy to tell when you are up against a terrible SAS sniper.  He is using the M95.  If you've got the option to use the M24, and you choose the lesser gun, you shouldn't be sniping.  The M95 is loud, its not as accurate, and it does the same amount of damage.  On Warlord (a map I know pretty well) people seem to like the SVD.  Mainly because when the sniper gets surprised because he's a bad player in general, he can spam that SVD and probably kill you.  I am not a fan of a gun that caters to cowards. 

The M24 is also much muuuch more accurate than the SVD.  The M95 is as well more accurate.  Its loud as hell, but its a much better choice.  Better zoom, more damage; whats not to like. 

What gun you choose doesn't make a whole lot of difference if you're "hiding" on a rooftop ledge, trying to snipe people.  What gun you choose doesn't make any difference if youre prone in the middle of the street.  What gun you choose doesn't make any difference if you don't know how to hide.

When using the M95 though, if the you can, shoot vehicles.  Shoot cars, shoot ATVs, shoot boats, shoot helicopters.  Thats the nice thing about the M95, it shoots wine bottles.  Its funny that a .50 cal round can penetrate vehicle glass and kill a pilot.. but it does the same amount of damage as the M24 when you shoot a soldier with no body armor in the chest.  That don't make no godamn sense. 

L96a1>M24>M95>SVD=SVD clone.

Just like every other gun in the game, learn to aim; you'll do fine.
2006-11-07 19:59:48
power9787
Member
+10|6798
dude svd pwns and m95 is great for moving targets done to thicker crossahair. it is great when get close range and shot and switch pistol one shot  kill with m95 to any kit. m24 is slower reloading l96 and feels less cool and not as good in bullet drop
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