| Yes | 56% | 56% - 147 | ||||
| Only Lesbians | 14% | 14% - 37 | ||||
| Only Gay Men | 0% | 0% - 2 | ||||
| No | 27% | 27% - 72 | ||||
| Total: 258 | ||||||
How do you know that? In what book did you read it? Just curious.Ikarti wrote:
Sparta's army was filled with gays and they did alright for themselves.
Yeah, maybe greek armies had the don't ask don't tell policy. And for that matter, I'm sure roman armies didn't have gays either... lolsergeriver wrote:
How do you know that? In what book did you read it? Just curious.Ikarti wrote:
Sparta's army was filled with gays and they did alright for themselves.
Ok, in addition to calling you old fashioned, can i call you a fucking idiot who obviously doesnt undertand the constiution that he defends? Kinda sad that 9 years in the ARMY has taught you nothin...wtf are u the latirine tech?UNDIESRULES wrote:
Call me old fashioned but they should not be anywhere near the army. I am in the army and have been for 9 years and the thought of sleeping in a tent with one just turns my stomach. Society has become too endearing to all these people who arent made in the normal mould.
I like the reference he uses for gays... "..the thought of sleeping in a tent with 'one' just turns my stomach." I can just imagine him talking about gays as if they're some kinda sub-race. Sure they're religiously corrupt, anti-family fudge packers, but they have the right to serve their country. In fact, I think the whole military system needs an upgrade. They should start with teaching men and women to have a little people skill while still being as lethal and deadly as possible. Give them basic civil rights while encouraging them towards dedication, cohesion, and patriotism. I like what other countries do in having compulsory service for 2 years when they're 18 or so. This trains your whole country, and it does nothing to reduce quality of service men and women as they can obviously stay in longer as our current volunteer military does. Serving gives everyone the right to "know" things that most military vets think they corner the market on, and it will create more patriotism.golgoj4 wrote:
Ok, in addition to calling you old fashioned, can i call you a fucking idiot who obviously doesnt undertand the constiution that he defends? Kinda sad that 9 years in the ARMY has taught you nothin...wtf are u the latirine tech?UNDIESRULES wrote:
Call me old fashioned but they should not be anywhere near the army. I am in the army and have been for 9 years and the thought of sleeping in a tent with one just turns my stomach. Society has become too endearing to all these people who arent made in the normal mould.
Nope . My father is heterosexual , same as me . Personally I never saw any , and don't want to .PRiMACORD wrote:
Angry that your dad recently came out of the closet? Touch your asshole did he?
Awww
If you were macho enough you would not have problems with these things.Longbow wrote:
Nope . My father is heterosexual , same as me . Personally I never saw any , and don't want to .PRiMACORD wrote:
Angry that your dad recently came out of the closet? Touch your asshole did he?
Awww
Btw , gays are NOT wide spread on the territory of former USSR ( being a gay in the times of USSR meaned that you will be keeped in special hospital - nice idea , really apreciate this ) . You may say I'm sick of homophobia , maybe , but I don't want to see gays at all , espessially in army .
p/s I'm sick of all this 'fighters for the gay rights' threads ...
omg that sums this up so well.... so funny.The_Shipbuilder wrote:
Here's an interesting story on the topic. Also funny as hell.
I don't think the US Army is in any position right now to turn away people that want to fight for our country.I for one would not like to go into a battle and have some homophobic by my side.someone wrote:
No, plain and simple. I for one would not like to go into a battle and have some guy gay by my side.
But if he were a good soldier, I guess I wouldn't really care.
Sparta army sounds like Village People. Lol.Ikarti wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoge
I can't find my book on sparta right now but it's mentioned there. It's mentioned as debatable whether it was chaste or not, but IMO I think some people can't handle a feared military being totally gay.
HEEEEEEEEEY!Masques wrote:
What I don't understand is how some people can fetishize the IDF and go on and on about it's combat effectiveness and then say that openly gay soldiers degrade the combat effectiveness of the military, forgetting that the IDF allows openly gay men and women to serve (indeed requires them to serve based on Israel's universal service requirement).
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Que?Ikarti wrote:
HEEEEEEEEEY!Masques wrote:
What I don't understand is how some people can fetishize the IDF and go on and on about it's combat effectiveness and then say that openly gay soldiers degrade the combat effectiveness of the military, forgetting that the IDF allows openly gay men and women to serve (indeed requires them to serve based on Israel's universal service requirement).
And what about gay women?ATG wrote:
Discrimination because of sexual orientation is wrong.
Except gay men should not be allowed around children imop.
Yeah, I've been told that lesbians are the best doing BJ's.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
And what about gay women?ATG wrote:
Discrimination because of sexual orientation is wrong.
Except gay men should not be allowed around children imop.
Of course i understand it, i just dont agree with it.golgoj4 wrote:
Ok, in addition to calling you old fashioned, can i call you a fucking idiot who obviously doesnt undertand the constiution that he defends? Kinda sad that 9 years in the ARMY has taught you nothin...wtf are u the latirine tech?UNDIESRULES wrote:
Call me old fashioned but they should not be anywhere near the army. I am in the army and have been for 9 years and the thought of sleeping in a tent with one just turns my stomach. Society has become too endearing to all these people who arent made in the normal mould.