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2006-09-28 20:20:27
elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6910|USA
I only use unlocks when I'm on usmc, I hate all the usmc guns (except for the m249 SAW, and the engi shotgun)
If its a sniper war on JaLoLurBad I use the m16 on single shot, just because its a monster at long range.
2006-09-29 01:41:34
RightInTheFace
Member
+11|7101
unlocks make it much easy.. thats why he called u a n00b....
u dont know it?

Last edited by RightInTheFace (2006-09-29 01:42:18)

2006-09-29 02:23:54
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7083|Warlord

224th R0ck3tpack wrote:

Was this guy pissed that I was pwning him?
Yeah. The 'unlocks are for noobs' argument is just one more thing for people to fasten onto to bitch about.

You can get so used to hearing this how ludicrous it actually is doesn't really hit home, but imagine if someone were dominating in the palace on Warlord with the AK-101 and one of the Brits complained that "Default weapons are for noobs!" That makes just as little sense as the reverse statment.


madbomber27 wrote:

actually the L96A1 just has more accuracy a little less damage than the M24 and the M24 just does more damage...
Same accuracy, in terms of the bullets themselves. The different scope just makes it easier for many people to aim at difficult hiding targets (hiding behind cover like artillery legs) and at very long ranges.

Same damage.

BigmacK wrote:

madbomber27 wrote:

my bad i was thinking M95 not M24 but the M95 is more damage dealing is what i meant
Technically, your still wrong. The only difference is that the M95 can pierce bulletproof glass/fences in game.
The M95 and the two other bolt-action rifles do different damage to armoured infantry classes: takes them down to 2 bars, instead of 40% like the M24 and L96A1. All three do the same damage to unarmoured infantry classes.
2006-09-29 02:37:33
Deadman
Member
+34|6898|England
You're a n00b if you kill them and you're a n00b if they kill you. Babies cry at everything.
Sometimes it would good if there was no GLOBAL chat LOL.
2006-09-29 02:45:50
slicknic
Member
+145|7082
anyone who doesnt think unlocks (expecially ones you have to pay extra money for) arent any better than the default guns are in serious denial.

you can still be good... and use unlocks... but no matter what.. unlocks give you an advantage...its not only common sense that if you pay for an expansion youll get better weapons... but just from using them.. they are rediculous.
2006-09-29 02:52:59
Knight`UK
Lollerstorycarpark
+371|7036|England

slicknic wrote:

anyone who doesnt think unlocks (expecially ones you have to pay extra money for) arent any better than the default guns are in serious denial.

you can still be good... and use unlocks... but no matter what.. unlocks give you an advantage...its not only common sense that if you pay for an expansion youll get better weapons... but just from using them.. they are rediculous.
loooooooooooool sorry gotta disagree there just because you paye for the add on packs doesnt mean any weapons you get with them are better then the standard guns .

I will say again each and every gun is better in a different situation thats all theres hardly any power difference or accuarcey difference between .At the end of the who really gives a fuck if somebody moans at you for useing guns you earnt .Imho just play the game and iggy the others moaning and just have fun .
2006-09-29 02:56:16
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7105
happened to me yesterday when i got revived with the assult rifle..killed this guy twice and he spased
2006-09-29 03:01:48
MrE`158
Member
+103|7079

BigmacK wrote:

Bell wrote:

Define unlock's for n00b's, ergo, YOU!
That post was unnecesary, ergo, STFU.

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

But you must remeber the M95 ignores armor.

BigmacK wrote:

The only difference is that the M95 can pierce bulletproof glass/fences/ARMOR in game.
And the damage numbers are still the same.
Incorrect.  The M95 does more damage.  Look here: http://www.pixelwebgroup.com/temp/bf2/b … owall=true

The M95 does 190 damage, the M24 (and L96A1) do 95.  The M95 is additionally limited in never taking more than 95% of a human targets health.

What this means is not only can the M95 penetrate glass, fences, and so on, but the guns do different damage to targets depending on body armour.  A chest shot with an M24 against a body-armour wearing target takes off 60% of their health.  The M95 is doing so much damage that it takes of it's maximum allowed of 95% regardless of health.

The damage it can do over and above 95% of a human still matters.  That 190 damage means that the M95 is also quite capable of damaging vehicles.  Anyone who's used the M95 for a while will have stories about how they shot down smoking helicopters and so on.  Hell, if a chopper pilot can't find you, you could just keep pumping shots into him until he dies.  A hit on an attack helicopter with the M95 does between 5 and 10% of its health (You can take two bars of health, out of twenty, if you hit an AH-class chopper in the weakpoint, which is its cockpit).

The damage numbers are NOT the same, and it can matter.  They appear the same when targetting humans, particularly unarmoured ones, but if you're trying to pick up pistol kills, use the M95, since one body hit will leave teh guy on 5% health whether he's got armour or not.  (Attempting to pistol an assault or support trooper when he's still got 40% of his health is a dangerous prospect....)
2006-09-29 03:03:17
w00stafa
Krylov Whore
+35|7014|AK101 Factory
I dont use unlocks thanks to matchplay, and it doesn't bother me when when people use them tbh.
The ak 101/47 are easily the most versatile guns in the game while the m16 is the same as g36, just with a slower rate of fire.  If they're there people have the right to use them, and they arn't overall different from the defaults.
2006-09-29 03:17:11
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|6993|Search Whore killing fields

BigmacK wrote:

lol, Are you an immature twelve-year-old boy eating chips and spilling soda all over his keyboard?

If the answer is no, then take no offense. XD
I spwilled my happy mreal!!!
2006-09-29 03:21:03
RaVeN.sco
Member
+15|6990|Scotland

w00stafa wrote:

I dont use unlocks thanks to matchplay, and it doesn't bother me when when people use them tbh.
The ak 101/47 are easily the most versatile guns in the game while the m16 is the same as g36, just with a slower rate of fire.  If they're there people have the right to use them, and they arn't overall different from the defaults.
QFE

IMO clan players that play matches can tuse unlocks in matches, therfore when pubbing, they use the std weapons to gain exp. in using them.

i can be a tad annoying when ur getting pwned by an unlocked weapon, but lets be honest whos to say that if the dude had a std weapon, he might be pwning u just as hard.

for the record, i dont use unlocks as a rule, but now and again if i get pissed off enough i bring out my dao-12
2006-09-29 03:43:42
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7193

No matter what you use, people will always call you and me a n00b for some reason.

If it is not for using the unlocks, then it will be for:
Sniping,
Camping,
GL Attachment,
Vehicles,
Etc.. Etc..
2006-09-29 04:30:07
Slickfish
Member
+24|7079
FFs the unlock are no better than the standard weapons!!!

ALL OF THE WEAPONS HAVE GOOD AND BAD POINT!!!

Just depends which suits you, the AK101 if quickly turning into my fav weapon!, but when im PLA or USMC I use the L85A1, why because I can't kill anything with the M16 or AK47.

You pay money for the expansion pack for the new levels and extension to the game play, the unlocks are nice to have, but they are purely alternative's, not a advantage.

"Oh choice is a advantage" well use your advantage of choice and choose a strategy that doesn't get ya killed!.
2006-09-29 04:42:59
Not
Great success!
+216|7033|Chandler, AZ
To sum a few things up.

Several of the unlocks are decidedly easier to use than standard weapons. This doesn't mean they're "Better" but I'd love to see someone deny that the G36E can go head to head with literally any other weapon in the game. Most guns have a distinct disadvantage when up against another kit and a player of similar skill, while the G36E can be used by just about anyone with decent success.


Now, another reason that he may have called you a "noob" for using unlocks, is the fact that unlocks aren't allowed in league or tournament play. They're strictly used in public matches, which mean nothing to someone who's in a league. The problem with this logic is that many people don't play leagues, and their public games DO mean something to them. He has a point, but not a strong enough one to convince anybody because in his opinion everyone should think exactly like him, and there should only be league rules in every public server.

It's also been common knowledge throughout FPS history that the "pubbers" are a bunch of noobs who can't stand up to the skill of league players...at least in their eyes, so they take great offense to being killed in a way that they couldn't be killed during a league game.


Hope that sheds a little light.

Last edited by Not (2006-09-29 04:43:20)

2006-09-29 05:21:12
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7083|Warlord

slicknic wrote:

its not only common sense that if you pay for an expansion youll get better weapons... but just from using them.. they are rediculous.
So all of the tier-two unlocks are better than all of the tier-one unlocks, which are better than all of the standard guns?

Sweeping generalisations almost always tend to be wrong in some particulars; this one is no different

slicknic wrote:

anyone who doesnt think unlocks (expecially ones you have to pay extra money for) arent any better than the default guns are in serious denial.
Depends on the class. I mean seriously, the AKs are hard to beat for close-up power (and they're not too shabby at range either) even I can do pretty well with one and I suck with assault rifles and iron sights.

Another example: obviously the M95 is a step up in certain ways from the SVD or the Type 88 because of the higher damage and improved scope magnification, but for many the M24 is the superior sniper's choice, particularly if you're good at headshots, and that's a default gun.

You want to talk about imbalance, there's some built right into the game: MEC v. USMC you've got snipers on one side with the SVD facing snipers armed with the M24 on the other; no contest at range. Up close and personal you've got assault and medics using the AK-101 (full auto and one of the most powerful assault rifles) facing the M16 (burst fire only, much lower damage).
2006-09-29 05:48:23
jrockyourdome
Banned
+10|7069|yourmomshouse
Hes mad because you yolked his ass. I know some cats that are real good ,and if you get them at all . They bitch on vent that the guys a hack or, has auto clicker or, has noob luck [note I hate using the word it's played out] So in the end keep playing if your killing them then your playing right. O and next time knife him 4 the hat trick!!!! thats what lights up the chat.  have fun
2006-09-29 05:51:21
ToiletTrooper
Member
+25|7231|WC

224th R0ck3tpack wrote:

I was playing a server the other day, as USMC and I see this guy running across a bridge. So I melted his face with my favorite gun-the L96A1. What's he do? He screams over the chat: lol n00b unlocks!!1!(enhanced to make him look "n00bish").

So, I smoke him again, running across the same bridge. "lol, kick this n00b!1!!1"

What? If you look at the stats, the M24 is the same as the L96A1. Was this guy pissed that I was pwning him? Or do unlocks really make you an immature twelve-year-old boy eating chips and spilling soda all over his keyboard somewhere in Minnesota?

Let's see what YOU'VE got to say to this bullshit!!!11!!!!1!!1
I totally agree with the twelve-year-old-boy, rocketpack, you noob!
2006-09-29 05:55:09
Kanye North
randy
+80|6921

Knight`UK wrote:

I really dont know why people make such a huge fuss over unlocks each and every gun is better at other things

AK 101 for med range

L85A1  same as above but a tad better at long range

H&K G36-E best medic gun at long range

but my fav is the ak101 because its looks so cool
nah man M16A2 is the best. And i just recently just figured that. I love the M16A2 now.
2006-09-29 06:03:28
mr.degman
Member
+10|6882
Unlocks = n00bish
2006-09-29 06:06:29
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|7141|Hell's prison

Stumanbmx wrote:

hey, i live in minnesota, BITCH
Told on yourself...
2006-09-29 08:06:25
Slickfish
Member
+24|7079

mr.degman wrote:

Unlocks = n00bish
He's been killed by the unlocks one time to many.
2006-09-29 08:12:15
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6985|Belgium

BigmacK wrote:

He is a "n00b". He was pissed that you could actually shoot. Ignore him.

Edit: I'll add more.

On paper, the L96 is practically the M24, with only a faster reload time. Ask a seasoned sniper and he'll let you know its much easier to take shots with, because of the thinner crosshairs. Some say its harder to hit moving targets than with any other rifle, but that can be over come.

Basically, it is the M24, with a different scope, faster reload, and a badass sound.
Well, i would still prefer the M24 over L9, because i aim easier with it. I can hit a running target with the 24, but not with the L9
2006-09-29 08:57:32
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7145|arica harbour

Ty wrote:

This happened to me a while ago. Similar thing anyways.

Ty wrote:

Tyferra[L96A1]Someguy
Someguy: Hey tyfara, you a dick.
Tyferra: I'm sorry, what did you say, and who were you referring to?
Someguy; yr a dck tyfera
Tyferra: I still don't know who or what you're referring to.
Someguy: shut up you dick
Later...
Tyferra[L96A1]Someguy
Someguy: omg yu a dick tryfra.
Tyferra: So, you are calling me a dick because I shot you?
Someguy:yes sniping is what noobs do.
Later still...
Someguy[AK101]Tyferra
Someguy: noob i got you dick
Even later...
Tyferra[knife]Someguy
Someguy: Hay tryfa you have no dick
Someguy has disconnected, (kicked.)
Macedonian, (who was the server admin): Man. That guy was a dick.
man that is hilarous.. u could say, what kills people in the battlefield is not bullets, bombs, or artillery, its people stupidity and flame wars..


good one dude.
2006-09-29 09:05:35
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,057|7079|Little Bentcock
I don't know what peoples problems are with unlocks, I just like to hear people whinge about me, when I shatter their skull, and its even better when they call you a hax, because your not using hax but your just that good
2006-09-29 09:32:04
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7005|UK

BigmacK wrote:

Bell wrote:

Define unlock's for n00b's, ergo, YOU!
That post was unnecesary, ergo, STFU.

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

But you must remeber the M95 ignores armor.

BigmacK wrote:

The only difference is that the M95 can pierce bulletproof glass/fences/ARMOR in game.
And the damage numbers are still the same.
An unnecessary reply to an unnecessary post would also be deemed unnecessary, as I see you found the need to swear I can laugh at the sing of low intelligence as you must swear to put across a point.

*laughs*

*Goes to bed*

 

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