dobbs
Pawtucket Patriot
+0|6785|Cohog, RI
Here is what i have been drilling my note pad with for the past few hours.

PROBLEM:
With only 10 levels to achieve in BF2 the room for advancement disappears once you get Sergeant Major and have only 2nd Lieutenant to look forward too (150k points away).  For some, the aspect of playing this game is to have fun and blow shit up.  For others its the pride and thrill of promotion tied together with blowing shit up that makes it fun.  I have broke this down into two formulas:

Player type 1.    Fun + Blowing shit up = Pride
Player type 2.    Blowing shit up + Rewards = Fun

I happen to be type 2 and hearing those drums in game and those stripes peek out from around your mini map gets my juices flowing to say the least.  But with Gunny only a mear 800 something points away what do i have to look forward to anymore.  First sergeant will be 12k points after that and another 30k points for sergeant major.  With only 4 (as of 1230 PST 5 Dec 05) having made it to 200k points for 2LT this makes me die a little inside.  i work full time, married, have a life and dont get to play but maybe 10-12 hours every weekend.  So i've came to terms with never being able to get that many points but i feel sorry for those who do have the points but nothing to show for it.  After reaching that pinicle 50k you have another 150k before you will ever see your name in orange with (player has been promoted) for a while.  So this post is all about my idea for additional ranks inserted into the gap between Sergeant Major/Master Gunny (E-9) and 2nd Lieutenant (O-1).

SOLUTION:
EA has decided to use the United States Marine Corps as the basis for their rank structure but use US Army colors on the ranks for some unexplained reason.  So why not just continue on with their lead and use all of the Marine Corps ranks.  Hence i give you WARRANT OFFICERS.  Warrant officers in the Corps are about 90% prior enlisted members usually with college degrees and a vast wealth of knowledge about a particular trade i.e. tanks, supply, aviation, etc.  The difference between them and regular officers is that they do not fill admistrative/command jobs like Company commander, Supply officer, Battalion Coffee Getter (executive officer), etc.  they are usually pilots and usually helicopter pilots for that matter.  They fly and thats it.  they are not bogged down with other duties stated above.  Put most simply, Warrant officers are specialists and regular officers are Generalists.  So for that 150K point abyss EA put in between SgtMaj and 2LT, they should insert the 4 warrant officer ranks from the USMC.

ACTION:
I worked this out on paper so im not sure how its going to look on here.  As stated before the gap between E-8 and E-9 is 30k (20K needed for E-8 and 50k needed for E-9).  So i would continue that "Max Gap" of 30k and put W-2 (USMC doesnt use the pay grade of W-1 in active duty) at 80k points
https://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/images/marw2.gif
W-3 at 110k points
https://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/images/marw3.gif
W-4 at 140k points
https://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/images/marw4.gif
W-5 at 170k points
https://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/images/marw5.gif

This works perfect with the 4 ranks inserted at 30k intervals.  So then you would just need another 30k points for 2LT!  For more info on these ranks and what they would look like go here: UCMC RANKS (the site shows W-1 for marines, army and navy, but they dont use them in active duty, they are a "training status" rank only and if an enlisted person chooses to become a warrant, then they are 99.9% of the time promoted directly to W-2) the military is weird and i have got used to that....

CONCLUSION:
So this is just my rant on another version of a beaten dead horse.  Tell me what you think, and dont worry, i have flame resistant clothing on.
BurlySmurf
Member
+1|6788|Nellis AFB
I like it. It gives the guys sitting at 90k and 120k something to work. You can only work on getting 100h per kit for so long before you get bored. (It is bad enough trying to get my sniper to 15h. I couldn't imagine 100h.)
[GDC]SinnFein
Got Whiskey?
+63|6820|Meiriceá - frm 'Real Capital'
Nice work-up lad, I couldnt agree more and i think it'd be an excellent implementation on EA/Dice's behalf...
slidero
points
+31|6809
I like it!
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|6774|In your head
Just as everyone else has said I like it! Looks great! They really hsould add some between the gunny sarge and first sarge just too much room in between those.
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|6877|Bryan/College Station, TX
Could ask for more. I really do wish something like this was implemented.
Alas I've given up hope on such an intelligent idea ever being put into the game.
It makes too much sense for DICE. Logic in the ranking system escapes them.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
OMGEliteGaming
Member
+0|6863
After i reach 50k i doubt i will have any significant interest in my journey to 200k. Currently im mostly looking forward to 500 hours play time and the award possibilities that come with it. I cant see myself getting overly enthused to pursue the extra 150k points to get the unimpressive 2nd lt icon and a pat on the back. Some ranks in between would definetly be appreciated.
dobbs
Pawtucket Patriot
+0|6785|Cohog, RI
I wonder who i would need to send this to in EA/Dice, i wonder if Chuy knows?
TehSeraphim
Thread Ender
+58|6757|New Hampshire
I had an idea similar to yours.  Mine was that, once you get a certain amount of time as squad leader and commander (lets say like 3 or 4 hundred hours a piece, to make it at least challenging), you could go through something like OCS (officers candidate school).  Instead of stopping at 2nd lt., you could go through all the higher ranks, but only after you've earned certain medals, ribbons, time on SL and Comm., and certain point requirements.  I dunno where I'm going with this, Id just like to see more ranks...maybes ones that require more than just points.
dobbs
Pawtucket Patriot
+0|6785|Cohog, RI
I think that is what it all boils down too, more PHUCKING ranks!!!   we just need to look forward to something!  thanks tehseraphim
IvysDad
Member
+0|6794|Jacksonville, NC
Think that there should be a revision in the ranks......too big of a gap between certain ranks.....adding the CWO ranks and the rest of the Officer ranks would give some of us something to shoot for.  Would change the gap from 30,000 to 10,000 though.
kontrolcrimson
Get your body beat.
+183|6861|Australia
tell EA. find a way (should be feedback somewere....) and let them know.
dobbs
Pawtucket Patriot
+0|6785|Cohog, RI
Still need help with this one, the EA forums suck and just a bunch of stupid mods in there.  How do i submit directly to EA/Dice?
Leonnoe1
Member
+2|6758
You should copy those and past the images to a hosting site like Imageshack. That way they don't get pwned by the people who own them.
dobbs
Pawtucket Patriot
+0|6785|Cohog, RI

Leonnoe1 wrote:

You should copy those and past the images to a hosting site like Imageshack. That way they don't get pwned by the people who own them.
damnit that must have just happened today...

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