Poll

Do you think Nades should be nerfed in some way?

Reduced number 35% 35% - 51 64% 64% - 93
Reduced Blast radius 36% 36% - 53 63% 63% - 91
Longer Delay Time 36% 36% - 52 63% 63% - 92
The inability of supports to refill own Nade supply 36% 36% - 53 63% 63% - 91
Totally removed from Infantry Only 26% 26% - 38 73% 73% - 106
Only nerfed in IO 35% 35% - 51 64% 64% - 93
Total: 144
Toilet Sex
one love, one pig
+1,775|6810

This game is gonna end up just as a flat open field with a few trees and each team gets peashooters at this rate.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6892
Can anyone with some real-life experience tell us how many grenades a soldier (could) carry?
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pedigreeuk
I'm English, not British!
+113|7009|Rotherham, England
Stop wanting everyfuckingthing nerfed, fuckin hell just play the game for christs sake!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vexikuri
Member
+1|6677
How about a voting option of leaving them alone?
Master*
Banned
+416|6733|United States
well i can tell you guys that they nerfed the grenades also in 2142, dont throw as far and takes longer to explode.

EDIT: In bf2 like they nerfed other things like infantry(prone spamming, c4 throwing,support gun) , helicopters , jets and what ever else im forgetting, if they nerf nades then u will have to adapt to it like u did all those other things.

Last edited by Masterstyle (2006-09-21 07:12:54)

Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6829|Your attic
Personnaly I think they should be left alone, an M61 frag grenade weighs about 16 ounces (or 1lb) and I think has an effetive killing range of about 4m. That's about the same full killing radius of a nade in BF2, so they got that right, when I was out on DofE I was carrying a 50lb pack, I think a fully grown man who soldiers for a living can carry 4lb's of grenades along with his full pack of ammo/rations/weapon.

The nades in Bf2 are as good as they should be and we can carry as many as we should be able to, for the love of god please stop trying to nerf this game.
InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|6882|Cumberland, MD, USA

Towelly wrote:

Personnaly I think they should be left alone, an M61 frag grenade weighs about 16 ounces (or 1lb) and I think has an effetive killing range of about 4m.
They're M67 frag grenades in BF2.

Last edited by InviSniper (2006-09-21 07:49:34)

Zefar
Member
+116|6888|Sweden
It wouldn't make sense if the Ammo bag can't refil Grenades when it can refill ANY OTHER ammo that's in the game.

Like Tank shells, Anti Tank missle, Choppers minigun ammo, Choppers Missle, Airplanes missle and normal minigun ammo, APC bullets, C4 and you name it.
If they should take away one everything else should go away.

Just let the damn grenades be alone and don't head into the main grenade spam areas. Take a way around it because when everyone is focusing on one spot you can easily get past them on another spot.
Dex Luther
Member
+32|6676|Canukastan
As always, this post is useless.
[list]
[*]People abuse something,
[*]other's want it nerfed to cut down on the abuse,
[*]then the abusers come along and all go "OH STFU you whining noob blah blah blah I suck so I abuse and exploit anything and everything I can to give me an edge and purdy stats!"
[*]When/if EA get around to it they nerf to improve gameplay for the majority of players.
[*]Then the abusers whine about the whiners fucking up the way they abused the game
[*]Then the abusers find another aspect of the game to abuse
[*]Then people complain about the new abuse
[*]Then the abusers come back with their "OH stfu whiner!!1one you just suck. If you don't like how I abuse the game then... well too bad!!!eleven"
[*]And so on, and so forth, for the rest of eternity.

Moral of my post: It's the abusers ruining the game, not the "whiners" complaining about the abuse.

I'm sure downpours of grenades that resemble arty weren't part of the original gameplan.

I agree though. Nades are fine. Just the abuse of them isn't.

Last edited by Dex Luther (2006-09-21 08:41:33)

Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6892

Dex Luther wrote:

As always, this post is useless.
[list]
[*]People abuse something,
[*]other's want it nerfed to cut down on the abuse,
[*]then the abusers come along and all go "OH STFU you whining noob blah blah blah I suck so I abuse and exploit anything and everything I can to give me an edge and purdy stats!"
[*]When/if EA get around to it they nerf to improve gameplay for the majority of players.
[*]Then the abusers whine about the whiners fucking up the way they abused the game
[*]Then the abusers find another aspect of the game to abuse
[*]Then people complain about the new abuse
[*]Then the abusers come back with their "OH stfu whiner!!1one you just suck. If you don't like how I abuse the game then... well too bad!!!eleven"
[*]And so on, and so forth, for the rest of eternity.

Moral of my post: It's the abusers ruining the game, not the "whiners" complaining about the abuse.

I'm sure downpours of grenades that resemble arty weren't part of the original gameplan.

I agree though. Nades are fine. Just the abuse of them isn't.
Your story goes wrong at #4

Here's how it goes for nades.

[list]
[*]People abuse something,
[*]other's want it nerfed to cut down on the abuse,
[*]then the abusers come along and all go "OH STFU you whining noob blah blah blah *bullshit removed*
[*]When/if EA get around to it they nerf to improve gameplay by stopping the abusers, but end up drastically effecting the gameplay and making it worse for the majority in the end
[*]Then the abusers and people with common sense whine about the whiners fucking up the way they played the game
[*]Then the abusers find another aspect of the game to abuse while real players are left with a lesser game
[*]Then people complain about the new abuse while real problems are ignored
[*]Then the abusers come back with their "OH stfu whiner!!1one you just suck. If you don't like how I abuse the game then... well too bad!!!eleven"
[*]And so on, and so forth, for the rest of eternity.
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0akleaves
Member
+183|6852|Newcastle UK
I think all patches should be wiped give use 1.0 with the 1.12 unlocks and maps thats it. So all i want is 1.0 with wake and Sf NOTHING CHANGED!
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
R3v0LuT!oN
Member
+22|6905|United States
I think the solution is to convert all the guns in BF2 to squirtguns, and all the grenades into water balloons.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6829|Your attic

R3v0LuT!oN wrote:

I think the solution is to convert all the guns in BF2 to squirtguns, and all the grenades into water balloons.
And support players carry several large buckets full of water, commanders can drop mobile hoses so people can refill
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6892

Towelly wrote:

R3v0LuT!oN wrote:

I think the solution is to convert all the guns in BF2 to squirtguns, and all the grenades into water balloons.
And support players carry several large buckets full of water, commanders can drop mobile hoses so people can refill
ROFL

That would be an interesting mod
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Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6885

Zefar wrote:

It wouldn't make sense if the Ammo bag can't refil Grenades when it can refill ANY OTHER ammo that's in the game.
Wouldn't make sense? A lot of things in BF2 don't make sense but are still fun.

In all seriousness though, what's more fun: gun fights or nade fests? I think we all know the answer to that one. 1 nade per ammo pack is a rational idea. Why does change scare you all so much?
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6768|Belgium

FesterTheMolester wrote:

No To All!!
Z-trooper
BF2s' little helper
+209|6997|Denmark
They have already been nerfed, stop the madness and stay out of nade/padding-zones..

Vexikuri wrote:

How about a voting option of leaving them alone?
mhm.. thats some vote if you cant vote for no changes..

Last edited by Z-trooper (2006-09-21 09:24:29)

Zefar
Member
+116|6888|Sweden

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Zefar wrote:

It wouldn't make sense if the Ammo bag can't refil Grenades when it can refill ANY OTHER ammo that's in the game.
Wouldn't make sense? A lot of things in BF2 don't make sense but are still fun.

In all seriousness though, what's more fun: gun fights or nade fests? I think we all know the answer to that one. 1 nade per ammo pack is a rational idea. Why does change scare you all so much?
Yea but it certainly wouldn't make sense if the Ammo bag won't be able to fill up full ammo on Grenades but can refill 5-6 Rockets in an instant if you throw it out. Beside it would just give the Support Kit more points when people pick them up to.

Only getting 1+ grenade from a bag means you need to cast out several fill their grenade stock. which means 4-5 + extra ammo point.
DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|6971|Germany, near Koblenz

FesterTheMolester wrote:

No To All!!
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7048|Marathon, Florida Keys
i hate grenades with a passion, but im not complaining to get them nerfed. Im not going to dummy down to the level of "whiny bitch at totalbf2.com"
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Baron_von_Kondas
Ok! Try smelling this banana!!!
+74|6731|There?
No No No!!!
-CARNIFEX-[LOC]
Da Blooze
+111|6892
After the bullshit grenades of CS and CS:S I love how deadly BF2s grenades are.  Grenades are fucking lovely.  They are very lethal in real life, and it would not be unreasonable for a soldier to have at least 3-4 grenades on his person at the onset of an operation.  They are used to clear rooms, flush people out, and just maim and kill in general.  Period. 

More whining from people who suck at BF2.  This is not CS.  Play smart, and you will live:  you will spot claymores, you will base more of your gameplay on strategic positioning and less on your supposedly l337 aim (which probably sucks anyway), and you will make the capture of strategic locations priority number one.

I have no problem with the grenade fests on IO Karkand, or any other map.  In fact, I love it.  I played a full 64 man karkand last night as MEC and went 56/7...the unrelenting hail of shrapnel coming at the hotel never kept me from getting kills or medics from reviving my ass.  In short, play smarter, bitch less...no more nerfing anything as far as I'm concerned. (Except claymores...we should be able to blow them up if we can spot one before it blows...they changed that with a patch though, so reverting isn't really a nerfing.)
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USAFDude_1988
Will fly for food.
+120|6747|Daytona Beach, FL
As much as I hate the nade fests.... I'm totally against nerfing anything else.. EA's already ruined the game enough.
ShadowFoX
I Hate Claymores
+109|6770

polarbearz wrote:

I hope they nerf you you fucking whiner.

What else are you people going to whine about? Get killed by something. WAAAAH WAAAAAAH HAX.
R3v0LuT!oN
Member
+22|6905|United States
I, personally, can think of few things that are more fun than being support and lobbing nades toward an enemy flag from a safe distance and then seeing my name spam the upper left hand corner.

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