I don`t mind the G36c but i don`t play spec ops much at the mo. The G36e on the other hand is the muts muff, it`s accurate and powerfull. I`m just getting into using the mg36 now as support, not as powerful as the PKM but i love the extra accuracy.
MOOT, the statement is MOOT! Not mute. Sorry pet peave and thank you.Shopvac wrote:
I suppose a lot of this will be mute when 2142 comes out, but it's a fun argument any way.
Last edited by Diogenese (2006-09-20 10:39:50)
Bleh. If you're playing spec-ops go for the SCAR.
I like the L85 for when im USMC and SAS, because it has full auto, and My play style requires the use of diving and spining while spraying constantly, so its nice, especially while shooting while going prone, and the enemy does the same, i find the L85 puts a large number in his chest before he hits the ground. If Im on the other team the AK owns all.
The G36C is good, but i think it was better in like 1.12 or something, so I dont use it so much anymore.
The G36C is good, but i think it was better in like 1.12 or something, so I dont use it so much anymore.
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If you can use ironsites, then the g36c is best for single shot, prone sniping at long/medium distance.
If you can't figure out ironsites, and need a scoped view (and better view), the l851 is best for proned, single shot sniping.
However, the G36c's lack of long range zoom can possibly counter the benefit of the l85a's scoped shot because the minutes of deviation are a little less for G36c.
l85a's prone min is: 1.2
g36c's prone min is: 1
So if that 12 second deviation is equal to not sighting in with a scope...then they're a wash. But most would just use both rifles for medium range sniping making the g36c the better weapon.
Damage is 25 for g36c and 30 for l85a..so it doesn't matter much in damage since they both require 4 hits to kill to the body.
If you can't figure out ironsites, and need a scoped view (and better view), the l851 is best for proned, single shot sniping.
However, the G36c's lack of long range zoom can possibly counter the benefit of the l85a's scoped shot because the minutes of deviation are a little less for G36c.
l85a's prone min is: 1.2
g36c's prone min is: 1
So if that 12 second deviation is equal to not sighting in with a scope...then they're a wash. But most would just use both rifles for medium range sniping making the g36c the better weapon.
Damage is 25 for g36c and 30 for l85a..so it doesn't matter much in damage since they both require 4 hits to kill to the body.
Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-09-20 12:55:25)
actually the L85 is now 34 damage so 1 headshot will kill and 3 body shots will too.
I like the L85A1 its not vary accurate but it only take a few shoots for a kill or one in the head.
Lately people have been using the first Medic gun in USMC and it kinda anoys me on how powerfull and how accurate it is. Sometimes it's just sick on how deadly it can be. >.>
But I would stick to L8 due to it's scope and it's very good on short/medium distance which medics should be firing on. Any longer than that should be left to Assault/Snipers/Spec-Ops imo. Unless you are a good shooter.
And stick to single fire to.
But I would stick to L8 due to it's scope and it's very good on short/medium distance which medics should be firing on. Any longer than that should be left to Assault/Snipers/Spec-Ops imo. Unless you are a good shooter.
And stick to single fire to.
as a newb i loved the g36c bak in the 1.12 days when i unlocked it i was on fire it is easily the best unlock in the game and seeing as alot of newb players love spec ops its perfect for the newby ...CinnamonBits wrote:
Okay, could someone who has had experience with both of these weapons please tell me which one they prefer and why? I mean, I know one core reason for choosing an upgrade is the kit but I like Spec Ops and Medic equally.
I've read the stats on the L85A1 and the G36C and it seems that the L85A1 is superior. If so, why do I see so many people with the G36C and not that many with the L85A1? Is it the weapon or the kit?
as for the l85 ... its fuken inaccuret.. if i use this gun its always on single fire *unless im palace raiding on warlord* it pulls off the most randy hs's but its worth getting just so you can then get he g36e (2nd med unlock) that thing is the real newb tube DIRTY 30 REPREZENT :d
The reasons why i like the L85a1
1. most people dont know how to use it it makes me laugh all the time when it happens
2. not to many people use it anyways so its not a trend
3. the scope rocks i dont know what you low ranks have been smoking
4. snipers dont have a chance against it and its quieter
5. my k/d ratio is about 3/1 when i use the weapon
6. This weapon is freaken accurate look at my accuracy
1. most people dont know how to use it it makes me laugh all the time when it happens
2. not to many people use it anyways so its not a trend
3. the scope rocks i dont know what you low ranks have been smoking
4. snipers dont have a chance against it and its quieter
5. my k/d ratio is about 3/1 when i use the weapon
6. This weapon is freaken accurate look at my accuracy
ill put my 2p in... i jus tried 2 rounds of sharqi, with both of the guns, and on the first with the 36c, i hit 15 kills, 2 deaths. with the l85 i got 34 kills, 7 deaths, so for me, i prefer the l85ai. HOWEVER i think the choice between the 2 guns is down to 1)user feel, and 2) the map. eg i know some people like the reliable accuracy of the 36c, and others prefer the punch of the 85, and care not so much for pinpoint accuracy, that being said, the 85 is still accurate as hell in good hands. So really, like most "which weapon is the leet" threads, it totally comes down to user preference, and no opinions in these threads should make u play a single weapon. my advice, play with them all, until you know ur favourites
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I don't know what you're smoking, but the G36C is the most accurate non-sniper weapon in the game. The L85A1 is nowhere near as accurate, which is ridiculous because the L85A1 is an assault rifle and the G36C is a carbine.tF-voodoochild wrote:
Wow, I don't know what you all are smoking, but the L85 is much more accurate at long ranges than the G36c. With my L85 I consistantly hit and kill people who are just inside my draw range! No way that is possible with the G36... especially with that large chunky sight.
Those are my only two unlocks, I use them both constantly.
The G36 is weaker, but the advantage comes with the fact that it has minimal kick compared to every other gun in the game so you can shoot accurately and quickly.
I always use the G36C when I'm playing as Spec Ops, and look at my carbines accuracy: 30.12%. It's deadly accurate.
Last edited by xintegrityx (2006-09-20 16:37:10)
Exactly. Long barrel versus short barrel. Which, logically, should be more accurate, especially at long distance? The only advantage carbines should have is reaction time and handling in close quarters.xintegrityx wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking, but the G36C is the most accurate non-sniper weapon in the game. The L85A1 is nowhere near as accurate, which is ridiculous because the L85A1 is an assault rifle and the G36C is a carbine.
Don't get me started with the pistol. Accurate weapon at long range. IRL, yeah, right...
I'd like to put this out there, since the L85 I agree may not be statistically more accurate than the G36c, it is certainly more functionally accurate due to the impressive scope. Its all in how you use it guys, not just raw deviation stats and what not.
okey okey. this is a nice thread.... finally
my battlefield 2 gaming experience has revolved around one class....one class above every other kit that i really love using
ladies and gentlemen that would be spec ops:
the G36C/ G36E/ and the G36K stock weapon for spec ops in Special Forces are probably, the most accurate, well balanced weapons in the game. they have a very high balance of damage potential with superior accuracy.
the g36c is weaker than the L85A1. everyone knows that. but in this game it does not really matter how much damage your weapon does. its how many of those bullets that hit the target. i have outsniped snipers with singleshot rounds from the g36c. the g36c is very accurate especially in full auto. if you like spec ops, this is the gun to get.
the only problem of the g36c is , it does less damage and it takes a while to deal with iron sights.
the L85A1 has nice damage potential. problem with this weapon, is when you zoom and shoot full automatic rounds, the damn thing shakes like the macarena . you dont see that problem with the g36c. at close range, the L85A1 has the advantage assuming you can get every shot to connect, but thats has always been the problem of powerful assault rifles. they get all that power but the accuracy kinda sucks.
yes i have played medic many times, and i will tell you this, the g36E owns , and you can take that to the bank. that 3 round burst is like a laser.
the g36K from the SAS spec ops class in special forces has a 3 round burst and a full automatic setting. does 27 pts of damage. g36c does 25 pts of damage.
SCAR-L, its more like a spray and pray weapon. not good at full automatic especially when zoomed and it has the same "macarena" shaking problem of the l85.
if you want the best unlock of the game... get the g36 and let it rip. i have beatened people with pkm's like mad with this weapon, even those with higher ranks than me.
my battlefield 2 gaming experience has revolved around one class....one class above every other kit that i really love using
ladies and gentlemen that would be spec ops:
the G36C/ G36E/ and the G36K stock weapon for spec ops in Special Forces are probably, the most accurate, well balanced weapons in the game. they have a very high balance of damage potential with superior accuracy.
the g36c is weaker than the L85A1. everyone knows that. but in this game it does not really matter how much damage your weapon does. its how many of those bullets that hit the target. i have outsniped snipers with singleshot rounds from the g36c. the g36c is very accurate especially in full auto. if you like spec ops, this is the gun to get.
the only problem of the g36c is , it does less damage and it takes a while to deal with iron sights.
the L85A1 has nice damage potential. problem with this weapon, is when you zoom and shoot full automatic rounds, the damn thing shakes like the macarena . you dont see that problem with the g36c. at close range, the L85A1 has the advantage assuming you can get every shot to connect, but thats has always been the problem of powerful assault rifles. they get all that power but the accuracy kinda sucks.
yes i have played medic many times, and i will tell you this, the g36E owns , and you can take that to the bank. that 3 round burst is like a laser.
the g36K from the SAS spec ops class in special forces has a 3 round burst and a full automatic setting. does 27 pts of damage. g36c does 25 pts of damage.
SCAR-L, its more like a spray and pray weapon. not good at full automatic especially when zoomed and it has the same "macarena" shaking problem of the l85.
if you want the best unlock of the game... get the g36 and let it rip. i have beatened people with pkm's like mad with this weapon, even those with higher ranks than me.
I'm not basing my opinion on stats - I don't even look at weapon stats. In my experience, the G36C is much more accurate than the L85A1. You can hit targets at 50m more reliably with the G36C, firing from the hip, than you can with the L85A1 scoped. Try it; the G36C is an amazingly accurate weapon.DivineMomentofTruth wrote:
I'd like to put this out there, since the L85 I agree may not be statistically more accurate than the G36c, it is certainly more functionally accurate due to the impressive scope. Its all in how you use it guys, not just raw deviation stats and what not.
Why are u comparing the G36C to the English medic rifle. Two different kits. U should be using the G36E as a comparison not the G36C. Poor thread.
HAHAHAHAH you obviously do not know how to use the L85a1...most accurate gun in the game......1 shot one kill. it takes me a maximum of 2 shots to kill a moving target at over 150 mtrs with that gun.....=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:
the G36C is more accurate, but weaker. the L85A1 is stronger but less accurate.
I like the stock SpecOps and Medic guns better than the unlocks.
and beleive me, spec ops was my most played kit until a while ago, i have way over 200 hrs with the G36C and i am a colonel..... i can take out snipers with the 85 quicker than they can get the scope to my head..
go prone, 1 shot on single fire, if they are not dead by then, get up, prone -> straife roll -> another shot on single and they are dead, and if you do take a shot u get ur medic pack out and heal
go prone, 1 shot on single fire, if they are not dead by then, get up, prone -> straife roll -> another shot on single and they are dead, and if you do take a shot u get ur medic pack out and heal
nice accuracy with that carbine, almost as good as mine lol. zing...xintegrityx wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking, but the G36C is the most accurate non-sniper weapon in the game. The L85A1 is nowhere near as accurate, which is ridiculous because the L85A1 is an assault rifle and the G36C is a carbine.tF-voodoochild wrote:
Wow, I don't know what you all are smoking, but the L85 is much more accurate at long ranges than the G36c. With my L85 I consistantly hit and kill people who are just inside my draw range! No way that is possible with the G36... especially with that large chunky sight.
Those are my only two unlocks, I use them both constantly.
The G36 is weaker, but the advantage comes with the fact that it has minimal kick compared to every other gun in the game so you can shoot accurately and quickly.
I always use the G36C when I'm playing as Spec Ops, and look at my carbines accuracy: 30.12%. It's deadly accurate.
And I agree with every thing you stated. Just do me a favor, dont tell everyone. next thing you know were going to have more people using the G36c on us lol.
It depends on what you're doing. I prefer the L85 to the stock USMC M16 so it was a no-brainer for me to unlock. Other than some special situations, though, I tend to prefer the G36C to the L85. The L85 can be innacurate at longer ranges than the G36C though at medium range, it makes a pretty good sniper rifle when set to single shot. I've racked up kills with it a few times in spots on Devil's Perch just sniping with it.
The G36C is the better all-around weapon. Still, I like the L85, if for no other reason, because you've got to unlock it to get to the G36E
The G36C is the better all-around weapon. Still, I like the L85, if for no other reason, because you've got to unlock it to get to the G36E
you guys obviously did NOT read my previous post on page 2. and for those retards that say the L85 is inaccurate need to put their crack pipes down on the table and learn how to use it. i virtually never miss with this gun, u can be bursting sideways at 200 meters and an experianced user can still pop a headshot at your lagging ass. here is my first post
L85a1 is pretty much the only rifle i use now, i am ranked 500 in the world with medic but over 4k in the world at leut colonal, not bad considering this is the most popular kit in the game, i have over 15000 kills with the medic Guns, (not kit) and most of those are from this gun. and hands down this thing is a killing machine, i have been called hacker soo much using it that its not funny, thats enough of your aimbot bull$hit etc, not so with other guns, its deadly, 34 damage. 3 body 1 headshot. g36c is only 27 damage and its a carbine, weaker. alot weaker. more shots to kill = more time, same with g36e. 32 damage, slightly lower but still not enough for 1 headshot kills. i have a mouse key bound to full/single that i use constantly. i even prefer it over the easiest gun in the game to use (aka the4 noob gun), the g36e, if im in the wrong firing mode i just hit a button on my mouse and leap to the ground, usually at time same time, they havent nerfed jump and change firing modes (yet), if i run around a corner i unload full auto, the thing is beyond devastating, but only if you master when to use either firing mode. i rarely if ever lose jump to prone draws against any other gun, as 2 3 at most and 50% of the time 1 shot will kill. it is usefull clearing stationary mg users, as 1 shot will kill so they can't duck and move or heal, tank gunners, and especially snipers, if i get hit, 98% its a body shot, i quickly duck heal up, jump back out and pop a headshot on that poor snipers. if i hit him i can he usually dies before he has a chance to get up. 2 quick shots and hes done. 1 if hes prone and u have a head shot. btw the ak101 rocks as well, better on auto not as good on single. i regularly ge 60 or more kills on a standard 32 [player map with 200 tickets, while the next guy has maybe 15/20 kills. just look at my gold to any other medal ratio, all from the L85a1
when u can kill 25 or more guys On 3 clips of ammo with any other gun then you can post your point.
the math
headshot = 3X damage
L85a1 3 X 34 damage = 102 = 3 body 1 head.
G36c 3 X 27 damage = 81 = 4 body 2 head.
sure the g36c is fairly accurate (not as much as the G36e) but if you unload full auto in my back at more than 10 feet with any reflexes at all you can then jump spin around land on belly and pop 1 to 3 shots into u that don't miss after the first 1 or 2 of his shots are fired.. thats why the G36E is an easy gun to use, it has similar deviation to the C but it is burst so u dont have to manually burst it unlike the C. so its more accurate to begginers.
L85a1 is pretty much the only rifle i use now, i am ranked 500 in the world with medic but over 4k in the world at leut colonal, not bad considering this is the most popular kit in the game, i have over 15000 kills with the medic Guns, (not kit) and most of those are from this gun. and hands down this thing is a killing machine, i have been called hacker soo much using it that its not funny, thats enough of your aimbot bull$hit etc, not so with other guns, its deadly, 34 damage. 3 body 1 headshot. g36c is only 27 damage and its a carbine, weaker. alot weaker. more shots to kill = more time, same with g36e. 32 damage, slightly lower but still not enough for 1 headshot kills. i have a mouse key bound to full/single that i use constantly. i even prefer it over the easiest gun in the game to use (aka the4 noob gun), the g36e, if im in the wrong firing mode i just hit a button on my mouse and leap to the ground, usually at time same time, they havent nerfed jump and change firing modes (yet), if i run around a corner i unload full auto, the thing is beyond devastating, but only if you master when to use either firing mode. i rarely if ever lose jump to prone draws against any other gun, as 2 3 at most and 50% of the time 1 shot will kill. it is usefull clearing stationary mg users, as 1 shot will kill so they can't duck and move or heal, tank gunners, and especially snipers, if i get hit, 98% its a body shot, i quickly duck heal up, jump back out and pop a headshot on that poor snipers. if i hit him i can he usually dies before he has a chance to get up. 2 quick shots and hes done. 1 if hes prone and u have a head shot. btw the ak101 rocks as well, better on auto not as good on single. i regularly ge 60 or more kills on a standard 32 [player map with 200 tickets, while the next guy has maybe 15/20 kills. just look at my gold to any other medal ratio, all from the L85a1
when u can kill 25 or more guys On 3 clips of ammo with any other gun then you can post your point.
the math
headshot = 3X damage
L85a1 3 X 34 damage = 102 = 3 body 1 head.
G36c 3 X 27 damage = 81 = 4 body 2 head.
sure the g36c is fairly accurate (not as much as the G36e) but if you unload full auto in my back at more than 10 feet with any reflexes at all you can then jump spin around land on belly and pop 1 to 3 shots into u that don't miss after the first 1 or 2 of his shots are fired.. thats why the G36E is an easy gun to use, it has similar deviation to the C but it is burst so u dont have to manually burst it unlike the C. so its more accurate to begginers.
Last edited by SyDuS (2006-09-21 01:34:30)
The L85 is accurate, but NOT as accurate as the G36C... FACT....
L85 is more powerful but it is a assault rifle, carbines are more accurate but less powerful. Thats the trade off.
With this there comes what the PLAYER perfers in any given situation.
I for one perfer the G36C over any spec op weapon because of its accuracy. I dont miss much. I dont waste bullets either. No matter how far you are on the map or what your doing I have a decent chance at killing you before you kill me. And yes that goes for ANYONE. But shit after over 30,000 kills with carbines i better be damn good at them.
As for my L8 expierence. It was my first unlock and i loved it. I found it to be sparatic on its accuracy. Some shots are perfect and some are way off. yes down the scope yes single fire it has a tendancy to be a bit off. The medic carbine G36E is more accurate then the L8. But again less powerful. If I decide that a assault weapon is needed and I am U.S I go assault class. If I am MEC I will go AK 101, other wise medic for me = G36E. To me there is no better gun then the G36C, yes it takes more shots but when you dont miss, it dont matter because 90% of the time the enemy will. And if you miss, you die. Even snipers. Snipers get 1 or 2 shots and they better be moving or there dead as well.
Again the weapon selection is all situationall. True the carbine is not a close quarters combat weapon, unless your very good with it. But medium to long / very long range as a semi / automatic weapon it is the best out there... For me... Other OPINIONS may vary. As I would hope they do.
Ive used every weapon in the game extensivly, and I find the L8 to be obsolete.
L85 is more powerful but it is a assault rifle, carbines are more accurate but less powerful. Thats the trade off.
With this there comes what the PLAYER perfers in any given situation.
I for one perfer the G36C over any spec op weapon because of its accuracy. I dont miss much. I dont waste bullets either. No matter how far you are on the map or what your doing I have a decent chance at killing you before you kill me. And yes that goes for ANYONE. But shit after over 30,000 kills with carbines i better be damn good at them.
As for my L8 expierence. It was my first unlock and i loved it. I found it to be sparatic on its accuracy. Some shots are perfect and some are way off. yes down the scope yes single fire it has a tendancy to be a bit off. The medic carbine G36E is more accurate then the L8. But again less powerful. If I decide that a assault weapon is needed and I am U.S I go assault class. If I am MEC I will go AK 101, other wise medic for me = G36E. To me there is no better gun then the G36C, yes it takes more shots but when you dont miss, it dont matter because 90% of the time the enemy will. And if you miss, you die. Even snipers. Snipers get 1 or 2 shots and they better be moving or there dead as well.
Again the weapon selection is all situationall. True the carbine is not a close quarters combat weapon, unless your very good with it. But medium to long / very long range as a semi / automatic weapon it is the best out there... For me... Other OPINIONS may vary. As I would hope they do.
Ive used every weapon in the game extensivly, and I find the L8 to be obsolete.
You are 100% incorrect. It is not the most accurate gun in the game by far and the G36C is certainly more accurate from any range period.[AD]will_young[G36E] wrote:
HAHAHAHAH you obviously do not know how to use the L85a1...most accurate gun in the game......1 shot one kill. it takes me a maximum of 2 shots to kill a moving target at over 150 mtrs with that gun.....=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:
the G36C is more accurate, but weaker. the L85A1 is stronger but less accurate.
I like the stock SpecOps and Medic guns better than the unlocks.