lol but aren't the boats gone too? heheleesupport wrote:
dude Wake with no jets or choppers??....ahh yea so China guys can sit there in tanks on the shore waiting for the boats to come:]
wake with NO vehicles? how does the us get the the island then?? swimming?leesupport wrote:
dude Wake with no jets or choppers??....ahh yea so China guys can sit there in tanks on the shore waiting for the boats to come:]
Made me laughSgtMurphy wrote:
yeah yeah, I know, go play checkers.... well youre right, at least that way I'd know the teams
are REALLY even.
I think the no vehicles option is great, you have a level playing field where infantry skill and teamwork prevails. Don't get me wrong I like armor, helos and jets, but armor spawn campers and air whores get old really quick, 90% of the time they are only concerned with their stats and not the team. Just my opinion.
I too wish they would have made the no vehicles option a little more granular. I understand the idea of the IO option is to create a ground pounder type of game play, but come on, these maps are just too large on 32, and especially 64, player configs. At least give the option to keep the basic transport vehicles.
IO sucks. End of story. Ive played it once (without realising at first, but carried on to try it out) on Warlord. The SAS has absolutly no chance on that map, because by the time youve stopped the ticket bleed, you are too far behind to make any kind of attempt at winning.
Its slow paced action consisting of a bunch of medics reviving and snipers claywhoring. Occasional support getting ammo points, but thats that. The other 4 classes are completely redundant, even spec ops is barely worth it with 3 of the 5 assets taken away.
Try Iron Gator....geeez, there would be only ONE way in if you play it IO. That would totally suck....more so than Wake. Try FuShe on 64players.....holy fuck. Well, any Chinese map for that matter.
Some maps, armour "spawncamping" is required to make the game move along. Even with armour camping, karkand is often just a nade fest at the front because nobody knows what the hell to do otherwise. Stats do play a role in it, however, if you are sat killing everyone who spawns...isnt that helping out your team to actually take that flag?
As far as Im concerned, most of the complainers are playing city maps, more specifically, karkand. 24/7 with other maps barely touched. Its only on city maps where you get nade spammers, armour spawnraping, claywhoring, medic whoring and all the other shit. Why dont you try getting some real fucking skill and play, heres a clue, OTHER MAPS?
I play the game how its meant to be - vehicles, jets, arty, choppers - you name it. I dont mind it, and I damn sure dont complain like a 13year old schoolgirl about "o, I got killed by something which I cant shoot back at. Nerf it, nerf it".
Eat shit and die.
Everyone whined about how they wanted IO with no vehicles...now you have it. Literally. You even have it without the "dreaded" artillery to make your life ever so simpler. And now you are able to play your pussy little mode on RANKED servers and earn shit loads of points for fuck all skill. DICE gave you EXACTLY what you asked for to every word. That is your (complainers) fault. NOT DICE's.
It went through beta testing for 3 months.....and after all that.....you still fucking complain
Its slow paced action consisting of a bunch of medics reviving and snipers claywhoring. Occasional support getting ammo points, but thats that. The other 4 classes are completely redundant, even spec ops is barely worth it with 3 of the 5 assets taken away.
Try Iron Gator....geeez, there would be only ONE way in if you play it IO. That would totally suck....more so than Wake. Try FuShe on 64players.....holy fuck. Well, any Chinese map for that matter.
Some maps, armour "spawncamping" is required to make the game move along. Even with armour camping, karkand is often just a nade fest at the front because nobody knows what the hell to do otherwise. Stats do play a role in it, however, if you are sat killing everyone who spawns...isnt that helping out your team to actually take that flag?
As far as Im concerned, most of the complainers are playing city maps, more specifically, karkand. 24/7 with other maps barely touched. Its only on city maps where you get nade spammers, armour spawnraping, claywhoring, medic whoring and all the other shit. Why dont you try getting some real fucking skill and play, heres a clue, OTHER MAPS?
I play the game how its meant to be - vehicles, jets, arty, choppers - you name it. I dont mind it, and I damn sure dont complain like a 13year old schoolgirl about "o, I got killed by something which I cant shoot back at. Nerf it, nerf it".
Eat shit and die.
Everyone whined about how they wanted IO with no vehicles...now you have it. Literally. You even have it without the "dreaded" artillery to make your life ever so simpler. And now you are able to play your pussy little mode on RANKED servers and earn shit loads of points for fuck all skill. DICE gave you EXACTLY what you asked for to every word. That is your (complainers) fault. NOT DICE's.
It went through beta testing for 3 months.....and after all that.....you still fucking complain
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Said the Armor Whore... LOL IO is awesome! You need armor, go play it. But IO is really fun. It's nice to not have to worry about the whores who cruise armor and shoot foot soldiers from behind Plate Steel. Most players out there have more kills from armor than hand to hand, but the latter have more respect from me, after all, it's an FPS game. Good gaming.Snake wrote:
IO sucks. End of story.
i fully agree with your criticism about the no-vehicle option and the stats-system. some maps NEED vehicels (sometimes only jeeps) and the stats-system encourages point-whoring and avoids teamplay!!
Believe me, I do. Not on city maps though. I will armour whore all I want to on the maps outside stat pad central, aka your most played map.Snipingruven wrote:
Said the Armor Whore... LOL IO is awesome! You need armor, go play it.Snake wrote:
IO sucks. End of story.
The only people who complain of armour spawnrapers are city map players. Such as yourself.
hehe vvvusmarine2005 wrote:
lolWilhelmSissener wrote:
poor baby, did they take away your spawn camping on karkand apc, someone needs a hug.
And the elmo sad: why don't u go suck cock if u can't rape other young bears?
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usmarine you are mean...
I like infantry only. I was expecting there to be no armor or jets but it really is NO VEHICLES. It sucks on a 64 player map but the longer sprint is nice. I was also disappointed in no artillery, that would be so BA for commander, pouring steel rain down on the defenseless infantry.
He has got a point.
Each time something goes back to Dice for fixing they just cludge it up, rather than try a better way to do something - they just kill it.
Like squad hopping, they just blanked all interaction while dead so thats a pain in the rear now, even in normal (nonhopping) play- what about trying things like allowing access but have a message reminding that any squad change wont happen till next respawn, or what about just disallowing joining in and out of the same squad but allow joining different - oh no, dont think, just kill it in the dumbest possible way.
Its like some evil boss saying 'change it?! CHANGE IT??!! ok you see, I'll teach them'
As for IO, well I think keep it for now but have a second mode added in the next patch called IT, IO with Transports and let the server admins decide whats more popular.
Each time something goes back to Dice for fixing they just cludge it up, rather than try a better way to do something - they just kill it.
Like squad hopping, they just blanked all interaction while dead so thats a pain in the rear now, even in normal (nonhopping) play- what about trying things like allowing access but have a message reminding that any squad change wont happen till next respawn, or what about just disallowing joining in and out of the same squad but allow joining different - oh no, dont think, just kill it in the dumbest possible way.
Its like some evil boss saying 'change it?! CHANGE IT??!! ok you see, I'll teach them'
As for IO, well I think keep it for now but have a second mode added in the next patch called IT, IO with Transports and let the server admins decide whats more popular.
you dont read do you..Nicholas Langdon wrote:
yay another fucking crybaby.... how about you just dont use servers with the no vehicles option.
moron...
youre just a drive by flamer.. read a sentence or two, then throw in your attack..
next time, READ before opening your mouth, or else risk being outed as an idiot again.
Bah, just play the game...
IO is only good on TIGHT map like Karkand and Sharqi. All others are much too big for no vehicles, even Mashtuur. Jalalabad isn't bad, but it takes a while to get somewhere from the US base.
exactly.Mad Ad wrote:
He has got a point.
Each time something goes back to Dice for fixing they just cludge it up, rather than try a better way to do something - they just kill it.
Like squad hopping, they just blanked all interaction while dead so thats a pain in the rear now, even in normal (nonhopping) play- what about trying things like allowing access but have a message reminding that any squad change wont happen till next respawn, or what about just disallowing joining in and out of the same squad but allow joining different - oh no, dont think, just kill it in the dumbest possible way.
Its like some evil boss saying 'change it?! CHANGE IT??!! ok you see, I'll teach them'
As for IO, well I think keep it for now but have a second mode added in the next patch called IT, IO with Transports and let the server admins decide whats more popular.
DICE only 'fixes' things that are easy to 'fix'. And I use the words FIX and DICE in the same sentence
very very very losely, because we all know DICE really fixes nothing. Im really quite surprised with all
the people who cried about jumping and firing (bunny hop..) DICE didnt just release the next patch where
you couldnt jump at all. Thats what we're dealing with. I review loads of games, rarely do I get 'into' a
game. Im trying real hard to get into BF2, but damn EA/DICE make it such a unfriendly program its very
difficult to filter through their mess.
Its by God's graces their programmers went into the gaming market rather than critical fields such as
national security, banking security, data protection, or anything else that required solid, stable and secure
code. I guess instead of complaining I should count my blessings these fools didnt write the code that
my bank uses to keep track of my dough. Can you imagine..
'hmm, well hes either got 50,000 bucks in there, or hes got 5,000... hmm.... screw it, reset it to zero
and we'll start over..' The DICE way..
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I resemble that remark.splixx wrote:
usmarine you are mean...
Do people ever realize that CoD and CS are more than a bit different than BF2?!!Nd4Spdr wrote:
I think no vehicles is gay. If you don't want vehicles play CoD or CS. However, even if I wanted to play with no tanks or air vehicles it still needs jeeps or dune buggies because walking around takes for ever.
If I wanto play BF2 with infantry I do not want to play CS!
Damn these idiots piss me off...
I kinda agree a LITTLE bit with the original poster... I'd rather see a "slider" setting on vehicles. Because the IO mode is ONLY fun on small maps, so for those of us that like the 64 player maps, it's a bit... Limited. I'm not saying 1.4 is ALL bad, but the no vehicles setting kinda sucks for large maps.
Imagine if you will 3-4 options on vehicles. Sorta like: NO vehicles, only small vehicles (transports, maybe including transport helo), large vehicles (APCs, and maybe attack helo), ALL vehicles (tanks, jets EVERYTHING).
I'll admit that doing it that way will need "tweaking", because this will upset the "balance" of certain maps, but IMO the balance with no vehicles is pretty bad for most maps. So maybe HP on vehicles needs tweaking, the amount of vehicles needs tweaking, or something else entirely (speed, respawn time, whatever). I dont know... But as it is, any map (at least the large ones) where one side starts with bleeding and only a limited number of spawns (sharqi, jalalabad, karkand, kubra, wake etc.) there's OVERWHELMING odds against the bleeding side, because they only have one or two flags to get to in a hurry, and those are HEAVILY defended. Going for a rear flag is almost impossible against a dedicated defense squad and an observant commander. It gets even worse on pub servers where theres no coordinated effort to GET a rear flag !
Imagine if you will 3-4 options on vehicles. Sorta like: NO vehicles, only small vehicles (transports, maybe including transport helo), large vehicles (APCs, and maybe attack helo), ALL vehicles (tanks, jets EVERYTHING).
I'll admit that doing it that way will need "tweaking", because this will upset the "balance" of certain maps, but IMO the balance with no vehicles is pretty bad for most maps. So maybe HP on vehicles needs tweaking, the amount of vehicles needs tweaking, or something else entirely (speed, respawn time, whatever). I dont know... But as it is, any map (at least the large ones) where one side starts with bleeding and only a limited number of spawns (sharqi, jalalabad, karkand, kubra, wake etc.) there's OVERWHELMING odds against the bleeding side, because they only have one or two flags to get to in a hurry, and those are HEAVILY defended. Going for a rear flag is almost impossible against a dedicated defense squad and an observant commander. It gets even worse on pub servers where theres no coordinated effort to GET a rear flag !
The IO option has it's good days and bad, I'm not a supporter of the IO.
But the IO option is server controlled .. if you don;t like the IO server, join another .. there's plenty out there.
But the IO option is server controlled .. if you don;t like the IO server, join another .. there's plenty out there.
well saidarnica wrote:
The IO option has it's good days and bad, I'm not a supporter of the IO.
But the IO option is server controlled .. if you don;t like the IO server, join another .. there's plenty out there.
So are the boats on Gator gone?? Been wanting to know that...
IO only on jalalabad is brutile if there is no uncap rape rule. even so, USMC stand no chance against even a remotely intelligent team. Guard the Outpost and Lake (or junkyard) flags, and its over.
I did, however, play on a server where is was absolute rapage on the uncap, and at the end of the round sides were switched, and we got raped as USMC, the fighting was the most intense ever! it would have been sweet to have EA have an option for IO to turn off the ticket bleed, that would make capping useless, other than points. But no ticket bleed, let the best team kill it out to win, THATS combat fun!
I did, however, play on a server where is was absolute rapage on the uncap, and at the end of the round sides were switched, and we got raped as USMC, the fighting was the most intense ever! it would have been sweet to have EA have an option for IO to turn off the ticket bleed, that would make capping useless, other than points. But no ticket bleed, let the best team kill it out to win, THATS combat fun!
Oh, I love infantry only, but I agree with the author that the "all or none" option is lazy and stupid. There is new strategizing, etc for every scenario you invent so in my opinion more options=better. In this case we got one new option--which i really like--but which had the potential to be so much better.usmarine2005 wrote:
Dude. I just clicked your stats and you were playing Karkand IO........ Who do you agree with?