not really. people will have more money to spend if there are no income taxes. a flat sales tax also has the added benifit of taxing people that make their money on the black market. it wouldn't tax crack deals, but crack dealers buy stuff.chittydog wrote:
How about fixing the spelling problem first?
What your solution does here is encourage people NOT to spend money, which is very bad for the economy.
no, i don't think it does. the extra change i would get from no income tax makes up for it, and this way i know that those among us that work 'under the table' (insert foot now) don't send all the money down south.chittydog wrote:
How about fixing the spelling problem first?
What your solution does here is encourage people NOT to spend money, which is very bad for the economy.
It addresses Immagration by creating no benifit to the Illegal status here. Right now you have workers who are working tax free and only spend on Neccesities, like food, cloths and other non taxed products. Employers wouldn't hire Illegals because they wouldn't have the tax break then. It would push them to become legal so they get higher wages to keep purchase power..jonsimon wrote:
To chitty: Any disincentive to spend would be reconciled by the huge increases in disposable income. Besides, sales taxes are actually applied to the seller, not the buyer, and depending on elasticity of demand, is not always passed onto the buyer.
And to fass: I don't see how this addresses immagration.
is that addressing the post or just your idea?luckeydogg wrote:
Genocide?
My idea... I'm easily amused...cpt.fass4 wrote:
is that addressing the post or just your idea?luckeydogg wrote:
Genocide?
I understand what you're saying but that's not really the point of here. Also if the lose of real benefit for Illegal aliens to migrate to our country our borders will be easier to patrol..ATG wrote:
There, now that the shock has worn off, what I mean is; Mexico is a corrupt country.
One example; Our counter terrorism experts trained and equipt a "elite" group of counter narcotic paramilitary troops who promptly went on the payroll of the drug lords.
I could rave but suffice it to say Mexico is/was a bigger threat than Iraq ever was in terms to the damage being done with the eager beavere help of Bush and his croonies.
I just don't understand why we have abandoned our borders.
I talked to a "former Marine" who told me he had first hand knowledge of Middle eastern terrorists attempting to smuggle WMDs into the U.S. , he said many Al Queda type had tried to cross the border. He said they get killed and left naked for the animals to devour, which takes 2-3 weeks or so where there are a lot of coyotes and buzzards.
He told me predator drones and cooperation with the meixcan governmnet lets our people decide who gets in and who gets killed trying.
I hadn't heard anything about the attempted WMD smuggling before, but it makes a lot of sense. It's an obvious entry point to US and I have wondered why we haven't heard of anyone trying to get through there.ATG wrote:
There, now that the shock has worn off, what I mean is; Mexico is a corrupt country.
One example; Our counter terrorism experts trained and equipt a "elite" group of counter narcotic paramilitary troops who promptly went on the payroll of the drug lords.
I could rave but suffice it to say Mexico is/was a bigger threat than Iraq ever was in terms to the damage being done with the eager beavere help of Bush and his croonies.
I just don't understand why we have abandoned our borders.
I talked to a "former Marine" who told me he had first hand knowledge of Middle eastern terrorists attempting to smuggle WMDs into the U.S. , he said many Al Queda type had tried to cross the border. He said they get killed and left naked for the animals to devour, which takes 2-3 weeks or so where there are a lot of coyotes and buzzards.
He told me predator drones and cooperation with the meixcan governmnet lets our people decide who gets in and who gets killed trying.
I think that those issue's would be offset by higher pay for jobs that illegal immagrants are taking right now. BTW Illegals don't accept mimimue wage they make double at least and it's still beneficial for the employer who doesn't have to pay the employee tax..chittydog wrote:
The part of this that people won't like is that lower income citizens will be spending a proportionately larger amount of their income on taxes. Poor people don't have the luxury of saving and many times spend everything they have (or more) out of necessity. The same could go for middle class families with lots of kids. Suddenly they go from having a tax break to support the family lifestyle, to paying more in taxes because their expenses are higher. Anyone with children will agree that their expenses are higher.
Your plan has two problems:cpt.fass4 wrote:
It's actaully a really simple plan that would take a while to put in place. But drop the income tax on american citizens and make the money back in sales tax. A billion dollar wall is not going to stop this problem at all, but econimics would. While improving our living conditions and increasing our wages to cover the cost of living that it would obviously have, we will fix this problem at the roots.
thoughts?
I like to imagine a US government as it was before the income tax, that is, one without a standing army.sergeriver wrote:
Your plan has two problems:cpt.fass4 wrote:
It's actaully a really simple plan that would take a while to put in place. But drop the income tax on american citizens and make the money back in sales tax. A billion dollar wall is not going to stop this problem at all, but econimics would. While improving our living conditions and increasing our wages to cover the cost of living that it would obviously have, we will fix this problem at the roots.
thoughts?
1-Droping income taxes would increase the government deficit.
2-Increasing the real wage by paying less taxes, would give people more money to spend in things, the products demand will be higher and that would bring inflation, or prices will raise, called it the way you want. The sales tax is about 7 to 10% aprox. in almost every state, so it doesn't cover the income tax drop.
You will have a government without any resources and raising prices, quite a problem.