Poll

Are award shows aimed at one race/creed racist?

Yes, they only segregate us further.76%76% - 10
No, they do a good service.23%23% - 3
Total: 13
=OBS= EstebanRey
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+256|6794|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
On September 20th, at the Royal Albert Hall in London, the annual MOBO (Music Of Black Origin) awards will be held.  It is a ceremony held to celebrate and reward artists who have shone in areas such as Rap, Reggae, and R'n'B or any music deemed to be of 'black origin'.  My question is, are they racist?  I think they are.

Firstly, I will concede that the competition is open to artists of any skin colour and white acts like Joss Stone and Simply Red's Mick Hucknell have been awarded in the past.  However, when you look at the opposite, there seems to be mixed rulings. Black singer, Samantha Mumba picked up a MOBO just a few years ago and yet she is a pop artist.  Although the actual one was probably labelled best R'n'B or something, she essentially won an award for simply being a black person involved in music; in my opinion anyway.  We also have other ceremonies in the UK suxh as The RIMAs or Race in the Media Awards, whereby only black people can win the award (in terms of being in front of the camera) and the 1extra digital radio station from the BBC, which is hailed as the UK's best 'black' music station.  This, I do consider even worse.

I have read a few debates on this through Google and it seems many people agree with me.  But of course we live in a society that dictates we "whites" should feel guilty about any wrongs our ancestors did to other races and thus we cannot question anything about their culture; otherwise we will be deemed racist and rejective (even if we are questioning them on their policy of syndicated racial equality). 

I must add that I hated using the words "we" & "them" in the above paragraph because I believe myself to be a totalitarian non-racist, which means I think everyone should follow the same rules.  It's quite simply the only way Martin Luther King's Dream of his descendants "not being judged by the colour of their skin, but the content of their character" can happen because awards like the MOBOs only serve to segregate into black/white or our music/your music.

One defence of the MOBOs I read even tried to suggest that people who hold my view are ignorant to fact that black people just don't get mentioned in the mainstream awards.  He exampled Craig David and Lemar for his case.  The former was nominated six times at one year's event but won nothing and the latter is 'the best soul singer Britain’s produced', in the estimation of the poster, and lost out to Robbie Williams for the best male gong.  He obviously forgot that in Craig's case his six nominations alone proved his talent was being recognised and that as an artist who has covered several genres, he was unlikely to win his categories because he was going up against people that specialised in those specified music types.  As for Lemar vs. Robbie?  Awards are based on popularity and success; not talent.  Robbie (unfortunately) wipes the floor with his counterpart in those fields so was the obvious winner.

If you got to here, well done and thanks for sticking with the rant.  What are your thoughts?...........

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2006-09-05 10:47:59)

cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6940|NJ
I have to say it depends because there are "white's" who do preform those types of music, are they discounted from the Awards shows. I'm asking because I don't know?
jonsimon
Member
+224|6739
I don't think they're racist but I didn't vote because I don't think they do any particular good. If someone wants to have a beauty contest for blacks go ahead, who cares?
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6794|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I have to say it depends because there are "white's" who do preform those types of music, are they discounted from the Awards shows. I'm asking because I don't know?
As I said, there have been white winners but there have been also been black winners who don't do "black music" and have only won an award for simply being coloured and in music.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6940|NJ
You said that? sorry my brain isn't all here, then I don't think there is a problem with it. You have gender based thing, black channels, gay channels and everything else under the sun. So all in all I'd have to say no..


If I see an Interraceal couple walking down the road I really kinda get a proud feeling for them. Like a way to go and get through sterotypes. Does that make me raciest?
jonsimon
Member
+224|6739

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I have to say it depends because there are "white's" who do preform those types of music, are they discounted from the Awards shows. I'm asking because I don't know?
As I said, there have been white winners but there have been also been black winners who don't do "black music" and have only won an award for simply being coloured and in music.
Technically any music performed by a black person would constitute 'black music'.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6786|Texas - Bigger than France
Basically I believe that any cultural based award or group segregates society.  Arguing for "white" rights or "insert race" rights is not directly building a homogenous society.  Look at your parents' & grandparents' generations...and compare to your own.  It seems that racism is lessened with every generation.

Racism discourages using minority opinions and ideas in the entire society.  Alternative opinions/etc provide more avenues for enhancement of society as a whole.

"There's only two things I hate in this world.  People who hate other cultures or races for no reason, and the Dutch".
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799
Cultural/genre based awards: A-O-K
International race/creed based awards: Racist and not very helpful

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-09-05 12:18:16)

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