http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/world … r=homepage
Well, at last it appears common sense will prevail.
Well, at last it appears common sense will prevail.
good
Finally
Should have done this ages ago
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
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OH!, NOES - He's on every thread with his "Fair and Balanced" backassward viewsCameronPoe wrote:
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
shh - don't tell pooh bear that Hezbollah started it and their was nothing to negotiate and that Iran pays Hezbollah to stir shit up {as he realizes - pooh just might be paid by Iran as well} oh noes again
Politicians are like people in the internet, they think that their penis is the biggest ever seen and they think that they can whatever they want to do so, ,o, i' m not surprised that they negociate after going to war but hey, remember "when you gotta be dumb, you gotta be tough..."CameronPoe wrote:
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
word. at least theres peace now...CameronPoe wrote:
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
Kabbom, that is a well-structured opinion clearly shaped by an abundance of carefully-weighed sources, written in such a relatable, inviting tone that, try as we might to resist, we can't help but agree with you completely. Thanks for changing our minds - and our hearts.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
OH!, NOES - He's on every thread with his "Fair and Balanced" backassward viewsCameronPoe wrote:
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
shh - don't tell pooh bear that Hezbollah started it and their was nothing to negotiate and that Iran pays Hezbollah to stir shit up {as he realizes - pooh just might be paid by Iran as well} oh noes again
By the way, you forgot to sign your post with "Kaboom." What happened - did you stop doing that? Or do you only write "Kaboom" if you feel as though you've dropped the bomb of knowledge on all our asses? Because you certainly did here. And why do you write "Kaboom" instead of your nickname "Kabbom"?
SHIPBUILDER.....THATS QUALITY VERBAL OWNAGE.... u are a master and i watch with tentative eyes for the next episode of....'Noob Owning' well done pal.
OW! Poked in the eye by that ever witty, long winded, self-absorbed, rock headed, e-bully known as The_Shipbuilder {as he fears he's being stalked}. I will not join you on the Dark Side of the Force - try as you mayThe_Shipbuilder wrote:
Kabbom, that is a well-structured opinion clearly shaped by an abundance of carefully-weighed sources, written in such a relatable, inviting tone that, try as we might to resist, we can't help but agree with you completely. Thanks for changing our minds - and our hearts.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
OH!, NOES - He's on every thread with his "Fair and Balanced" backassward viewsCameronPoe wrote:
150 odd dead Israelis, many hundreds more dead Lebanese, a country in absolute ruins and for what? Absolutely nothing. WHY OH WHY didn't Israel do this at the very beginning? It was inevitable that they weren't gonna get their troops back, weren't gonna defeat Hezbollah and were going to eventually have to negotiate with the captors. What a waste of life and infrastructure. They make me sick they really do.
shh - don't tell pooh bear that Hezbollah started it and their was nothing to negotiate and that Iran pays Hezbollah to stir shit up {as he realizes - pooh just might be paid by Iran as well} oh noes again
By the way, you forgot to sign your post with "Kaboom." What happened - did you stop doing that? Or do you only write "Kaboom" if you feel as though you've dropped the bomb of knowledge on all our asses? Because you certainly did here. And why do you write "Kaboom" instead of your nickname "Kabbom"?
btw - Pooh Bear and I were having a little mindful and mutually respectful play - it's not about you - you big e-bully
Kaboom {do you feel better now Mr. Rock}
Ditto. If I had any more karma points left to give today Shipbuilder would be getting one of them.
Point of information: Hezbollah set out very reasonable and meetable demands on Israel at the very beginning, before any rockets were exchanged - release the Lebanese prisoners you illegally hold since the 1982 invasion and we'll give you the two Israeli soldiers back. Of course that would have been too simple for Israel and they instead chose the path of violence. Again.
Point of information: Hezbollah set out very reasonable and meetable demands on Israel at the very beginning, before any rockets were exchanged - release the Lebanese prisoners you illegally hold since the 1982 invasion and we'll give you the two Israeli soldiers back. Of course that would have been too simple for Israel and they instead chose the path of violence. Again.
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Guys let's learn the lesson here. You can destroy thousands of lifes, stories and families, and at last you will be at the beggining again. War doesn't solve your problems. War only destroys everything you love and what other people love. So, as CameronPoe said before, why the hell did you have to kill thousands of people before doing this you dumbass. Next time talk first and then shoot, if you need to.
Actually, now that you mention it, I do feel a little bit better. It's... I don't know, I guess it's just comforting to see you type kaboom, kabbom.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Kaboom {do you feel better now Mr. Rock}
But you still haven't answered: why do you type "Kaboom" at the end of your posts? And what does "Kabbom" mean?
I just don't agree! Anan couldn't be more wrong on this one and should stand firm that nothing can be negotiated until the terrorist return their captives. Olmert has lost focus on what the goal was when he ordered the military strike - and that was to get the soldiers back. Olmert needs to stand firm and say "Let our people go" {quote from the movie Moses - hahaha!} before leaving Lebanon or negotiating...
Cameronpooh you seemed to have omitted a few facts and steps to make your views more agreeable to yourself. Hezbollah committed an act of terror, despite their reasoning, and the world overwhelmingly agrees that it was initiated by Iran to distract attention from the UN resolution. I would go as far as saying that the Lebanese Government was complicit in this conflict and in every since committed an act of war by not taking action to immediately arrest those involved and return the soldiers. Also, this thing about the "Lebanese prisoners" - PLEASE! They are prisoners due to their own actions and not victims of a kidnapping by terrorist.
We have to separate and define the actions if we are to determine right from wrong. And Pooh I do agree that each prisoner held in Israel needs to be given a fair trial, convicted and serve sentence, or released.
You are off your game on this one Pooh Bear. You bit yourself by starting with "the fact that Hezbollah set out very reasonably and meetable demands on Israel at the very beginning, before any rockets were exchanged". The demands came after Hezbollah illegally entered into Israel, murdered several innocent human beings, and had taken three more innocent human beings captive - so what the hell is "reasonable" about that! Are you saying it's okay for people who represents a country or a belief to kidnap someone as long as there is a reasonable demand? I would come over to Ireland and kidnap you but I would lose money on the deal
This was the icing on the cake my friend - "Of course that would have been too simple for Israel and they instead chose the path of violence. Again." Let me get this straight - Israel is holding prisoners from military actions against terrorism from 1982 by terrorist who have sworn to wipe Jews and the State of Israel off the face of this earth, Hezbollah {Lebanon} attacks Israel and kills and captures several innocent human beings, Israel takes military action against those who brag to the world of what they did and you feel comfortable with saying that Israel "chose the path of violence again". !?!? O RLY!
My eyes are wide open and I'm fair and balanced - can I get my +1 karma now please
Kaboom {just for you Shippie}
Cameronpooh you seemed to have omitted a few facts and steps to make your views more agreeable to yourself. Hezbollah committed an act of terror, despite their reasoning, and the world overwhelmingly agrees that it was initiated by Iran to distract attention from the UN resolution. I would go as far as saying that the Lebanese Government was complicit in this conflict and in every since committed an act of war by not taking action to immediately arrest those involved and return the soldiers. Also, this thing about the "Lebanese prisoners" - PLEASE! They are prisoners due to their own actions and not victims of a kidnapping by terrorist.
We have to separate and define the actions if we are to determine right from wrong. And Pooh I do agree that each prisoner held in Israel needs to be given a fair trial, convicted and serve sentence, or released.
You are off your game on this one Pooh Bear. You bit yourself by starting with "the fact that Hezbollah set out very reasonably and meetable demands on Israel at the very beginning, before any rockets were exchanged". The demands came after Hezbollah illegally entered into Israel, murdered several innocent human beings, and had taken three more innocent human beings captive - so what the hell is "reasonable" about that! Are you saying it's okay for people who represents a country or a belief to kidnap someone as long as there is a reasonable demand? I would come over to Ireland and kidnap you but I would lose money on the deal
This was the icing on the cake my friend - "Of course that would have been too simple for Israel and they instead chose the path of violence. Again." Let me get this straight - Israel is holding prisoners from military actions against terrorism from 1982 by terrorist who have sworn to wipe Jews and the State of Israel off the face of this earth, Hezbollah {Lebanon} attacks Israel and kills and captures several innocent human beings, Israel takes military action against those who brag to the world of what they did and you feel comfortable with saying that Israel "chose the path of violence again". !?!? O RLY!
My eyes are wide open and I'm fair and balanced - can I get my +1 karma now please
Kaboom {just for you Shippie}
I do it just to wind your very tight spring - as they say "small things amuse small minds"The_Shipbuilder wrote:
Actually, now that you mention it, I do feel a little bit better. It's... I don't know, I guess it's just comforting to see you type kaboom, kabbom.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Kaboom {do you feel better now Mr. Rock}
But you still haven't answered: why do you type "Kaboom" at the end of your posts? And what does "Kabbom" mean?
{shh - don't tell shippie it's a fattt fingered mistake on my part cause he'll never let me hear the end of it - he loves to be my personal spell checker - actually more stalker like}
Kaboom {for the normal ones}
Kabbom {just for shippie}
The Lebanese prisoners of which you speak were PRISONERS OF WAR. They were supposed to have been released when Israel withdrew from south Lebanon in 2000. PRISONERS OF WAR don't undergo trial. They get RELEASED when the conflict is over, which should have been in 2000! Try imagining American soldiers being held in a foreign nations dungeon after the end of a conflict.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Cameronpooh you seemed to have omitted a few facts and steps to make your views more agreeable to yourself. Hezbollah committed an act of terror, despite their reasoning, and the world overwhelmingly agrees that it was initiated by Iran to distract attention from the UN resolution. I would go as far as saying that the Lebanese Government was complicit in this conflict and in every since committed an act of war by not taking action to immediately arrest those involved and return the soldiers. Also, this thing about the "Lebanese prisoners" - PLEASE! They are prisoners due to their own actions and not victims of a kidnapping by terrorist.
We have to separate and define the actions if we are to determine right from wrong. And Pooh I do agree that each prisoner held in Israel needs to be given a fair trial, convicted and serve sentence, or released.
'Several innocent human beings'. LOL. They're fucking SOLDIERS Kaboom! Israel still occupies the Shebaa Farms area of Lebanon and has not withdrawn since 1982! I think you'd condone US military operations against a nation occupying Delaware, for instance! Sheesh. If you're a soldier then you're fair game when it comes to war.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
You are off your game on this one Pooh Bear. You bit yourself by starting with "the fact that Hezbollah set out very reasonably and meetable demands on Israel at the very beginning, before any rockets were exchanged". The demands came after Hezbollah illegally entered into Israel, murdered several innocent human beings, and had taken three more innocent human beings captive - so what the hell is "reasonable" about that! Are you saying it's okay for people who represents a country or a belief to kidnap someone as long as there is a reasonable demand? I would come over to Ireland and kidnap you but I would lose money on the deal
I'd like you to read this short article about Elchanan Tenenbaum - an Israeli businessman that the Israeli government released over 400 Lebanese PoWs in exchange for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elchanan_Tenenbaum
Negotiation still impossible? I think not.
Erm. Hezbollah were set up as a resistance group after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon to oust the invaders. They never advocated the complete annihilation of all jews or whatever it is you believe to be the case. I don't regard taking action against an invasion force as terrorism to be honest. I know you'd fight if China jumped the US. Your 'fair and balanced' viewpoints show little understanding of the complex situation in the region, the various factions or their goals/aims.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
This was the icing on the cake my friend - "Of course that would have been too simple for Israel and they instead chose the path of violence. Again." Let me get this straight - Israel is holding prisoners from military actions against terrorism from 1982 by terrorist who have sworn to wipe Jews and the State of Israel off the face of this earth, Hezbollah {Lebanon} attacks Israel and kills and captures several innocent human beings, Israel takes military action against those who brag to the world of what they did and you feel comfortable with saying that Israel "chose the path of violence again". !?!? O RLY!
Kabbom, when you are a soldier you aren't kidnapped, you are a POW. Big difference. Both countries are in war since ages, and those two soldiers are just POW's. I don't see the act of terrorism in here. I see a big act of terrorsim in destroying a huge part of Lebanon, for two POW's. If that's the general rule in the war, then Lebanon/Hezbollah should destroy Israel in payment for the 2000 civilians/soldiers hold in Israel. I don't think that's a good idea. So, before saying such things, think how'd you feel if you were in the other side.
Pooh Bear - I hear you and did as you asked and more. It's not that I don't understand the complex issues in the region, it's more the fact that I'm not getting lost in them nor am I allowing them to contaminate the current issue. There was relative peace on that border and absolutely no provocation - fact.
My point is that Anan needs to grow some nads and Olmert needs to remember why he escalated the conflict and get his soldiers back before playing the end game. If Anan was worth his salt he should be able to
get the soldiers back in exchange for serious UN negotiations.
Your analogies bite my friend:
- We have had American soldiers being held in dungeons after conflicts and did not negotiate with terrorist or captors and implying the Lebanese "prisoner of war" are being held in dungeons is a real stretch.
- Interchanging "human beings" with "fucking soldiers" doesn't justify your point that it's okay.
- What happened in '82 is BS when discussing the current conflict. Hezbollah was ordered to commit this act...
- DELAWARE! You keep trying to use the "scale" and "measured" method. Use whatever means and be done.
- After reading your link all you have managed to do is point out that it's a terrorist hostage situation.
DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST! You know why!
Don't forget what the great leader of Hezbollah said - had he known it was going to get this bad he'd never would have order the capture... Oh! shit he just admitted it. I know Anan and the Lebanese Government are hot on his heels to arrest him for committing an act of terrorism {insert lots of sarcasm here}.
And I'm sure that Anan is going to personally see to it that the leaders and guilty members of Hezbollah are tried in the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity for using innocent human beings as human shields and that Jimmy Carter will be the Chief Judge {insert even more sarcasm here}. etc.
IMHO - I know you don't like anything about Israel and that's fine but you've lost site of the simplicity of what happened and actually complicated the issue to defend your point of view. I still want my +1 karma dammit!
I'm basing the current conflict on the facts and it's own merit and not allowing it to be contaminated with the complexities {excuses in my opinion} of the past. I personally do not feel that either side can justify their individual actions and a lot of innocent people were killed and injured for no logical reason.
For anything good to come out of this it would take the soldiers being returned home, the Lebanese Government taking control of their own border, and Israel both releasing innocent prisoners and to make a gesture of reparations to rebuild non-Hezbollah destroyed infrastructure and civilian areas.
However, I stand firm that it would be a deadly mistake not to unitedly condemn what Hezbollah did as an act of terrorism and sort the rest out later.
Kaboom.
ps - just realized that when I use spell check I have to click "ignore" when Anan's name pops-up. I guess even spell check has figured him out
My point is that Anan needs to grow some nads and Olmert needs to remember why he escalated the conflict and get his soldiers back before playing the end game. If Anan was worth his salt he should be able to
get the soldiers back in exchange for serious UN negotiations.
Your analogies bite my friend:
- We have had American soldiers being held in dungeons after conflicts and did not negotiate with terrorist or captors and implying the Lebanese "prisoner of war" are being held in dungeons is a real stretch.
- Interchanging "human beings" with "fucking soldiers" doesn't justify your point that it's okay.
- What happened in '82 is BS when discussing the current conflict. Hezbollah was ordered to commit this act...
- DELAWARE! You keep trying to use the "scale" and "measured" method. Use whatever means and be done.
- After reading your link all you have managed to do is point out that it's a terrorist hostage situation.
DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST! You know why!
Don't forget what the great leader of Hezbollah said - had he known it was going to get this bad he'd never would have order the capture... Oh! shit he just admitted it. I know Anan and the Lebanese Government are hot on his heels to arrest him for committing an act of terrorism {insert lots of sarcasm here}.
And I'm sure that Anan is going to personally see to it that the leaders and guilty members of Hezbollah are tried in the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity for using innocent human beings as human shields and that Jimmy Carter will be the Chief Judge {insert even more sarcasm here}. etc.
IMHO - I know you don't like anything about Israel and that's fine but you've lost site of the simplicity of what happened and actually complicated the issue to defend your point of view. I still want my +1 karma dammit!
I'm basing the current conflict on the facts and it's own merit and not allowing it to be contaminated with the complexities {excuses in my opinion} of the past. I personally do not feel that either side can justify their individual actions and a lot of innocent people were killed and injured for no logical reason.
For anything good to come out of this it would take the soldiers being returned home, the Lebanese Government taking control of their own border, and Israel both releasing innocent prisoners and to make a gesture of reparations to rebuild non-Hezbollah destroyed infrastructure and civilian areas.
However, I stand firm that it would be a deadly mistake not to unitedly condemn what Hezbollah did as an act of terrorism and sort the rest out later.
Kaboom.
ps - just realized that when I use spell check I have to click "ignore" when Anan's name pops-up. I guess even spell check has figured him out
Hmm, huh, What!, Oh!, Hell No he didn't just put that in writing!!!sergeriver wrote:
Kabbom, when you are a soldier you aren't kidnapped, you are a POW. Big difference. Both countries are in war since ages, and those two soldiers are just POW's. I don't see the act of terrorism in here. I see a big act of terrorsim in destroying a huge part of Lebanon, for two POW's. If that's the general rule in the war, then Lebanon/Hezbollah should destroy Israel in payment for the 2000 civilians/soldiers hold in Israel. I don't think that's a good idea. So, before saying such things, think how'd you feel if you were in the other side.
Hezbollah is not a country and "no" Lebanon is not at war with Israel. Hezbollah is an armed militia that is directed and funded by Iran and supplied through Syria. Therefore they are not a country or even represent one Now, when a leader of a militia orders, and his followers accepts and carries out those orders, to cross into another country and kidnap people and subsequently people die then that would be an act of terrorism! Also, the people captured are not POW's they are hostages!! "Big difference".
Next point you applied the fubar logic too - A country retaliates against a known act of terrorism and takes out "command and control" points as well as known hideouts {this country was even nice enough to tell them to return the hostages or get the hell out before they strike against a target} sounds fair to me.
Now, here's the issue - the militia doesn't allow the people to evacuate and even provokes retaliation by firing missiles, from adjacent to civilian populated area's, at the civilian population of the country that they have committed an act of terrorism against - IT'S TERRORISM DUMMY!
I do think and I know how I feel. It's fucked-up but it was an act of terrorism and if we don't all unite against it we will never be able to resolve it - quit playing the word and debate game. If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and feels like shit then it's SHIT! Now do something so you don't step in it again
I can't play no more today my mom says it's time for my nap and playing with tards will lower my IQ.
Kaboom.
No provocation? Slowly rebuilding your army is what was happening. Rebuilding it so you could try and drive the Israelis off the occupied Shebaa Farms and get some bargaining chips to have their PoWs released.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Pooh Bear - I hear you and did as you asked and more. It's not that I don't understand the complex issues in the region, it's more the fact that I'm not getting lost in them nor am I allowing them to contaminate the current issue. There was relative peace on that border and absolutely no provocation - fact.
Dungeons/prisons/whatever. They shouldn't be there is what matters.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Your analogies bite my friend:
- We have had American soldiers being held in dungeons after conflicts and did not negotiate with terrorist or captors and implying the Lebanese "prisoner of war" are being held in dungeons is a real stretch.
The fact of the matter is that they ARE NOT civilians. They ARE soldiers. As such they ARE legitimate targets when said army occupies part of your country and holds more than a thousand of your fellow countrymen there behind closed bars.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
- Interchanging "human beings" with "fucking soldiers" doesn't justify your point that it's okay.
That's right - history refreshes every 6 months. My mistake. Nothing that happens more than six months ago has any bearing on the present at all....AAFCptKabbom wrote:
- What happened in '82 is BS when discussing the current conflict. Hezbollah was ordered to commit this act...
Hezbollah ordered? You make it sound like they weren't willing! LOL. The attack showed that this thing had been planned and rehearsed for a long long time.
I don't see anything at all wrong with my analogy. It's a perfectly valid one.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
- DELAWARE! You keep trying to use the "scale" and "measured" method. Use whatever means and be done.
Do not negotiate with terrorists why? Because you might end up with peace like Northern Ireland is currently enjoying? LOLAAFCptKabbom wrote:
- After reading your link all you have managed to do is point out that it's a terrorist hostage situation.
DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST! You know why!
I don't think anyone could have predicted how savage, inhumane, destructive and relentless the Israeli attack would be. I don't think anyone would have predicted that Hezbollah have emerged unbowed and stronger than ever either. Looks like the violence was counterproductive. Oh Israel - always intransigent and hardline, when will you ever learn?AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Don't forget what the great leader of Hezbollah said - had he known it was going to get this bad he'd never would have order the capture... Oh! shit he just admitted it. I know Anan and the Lebanese Government are hot on his heels to arrest him for committing an act of terrorism {insert lots of sarcasm here}.
Well Hezbollah will probably get away with their crimes in exactly the same fashion Israel get away with their continued war crimes, land confiscation, contravention of international law and crimes against humanity in the occupied terrorities. Hezbollah are no better or worse than Israel themselves: they are all terrorists.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
And I'm sure that Anan is going to personally see to it that the leaders and guilty members of Hezbollah are tried in the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity for using innocent human beings as human shields and that Jimmy Carter will be the Chief Judge {insert even more sarcasm here}. etc.
It's a very complicated issue Kaboom - don't dumb it down. And for your information I've holidayed in Israel. And it was quite pleasant. I +1'd you earlier on didn't I?AAFCptKabbom wrote:
IMHO - I know you don't like anything about Israel and that's fine but you've lost site of the simplicity of what happened and actually complicated the issue to defend your point of view. I still want my +1 karma dammit!
Fair enough. I choose to delve deeper though.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
I'm basing the current conflict on the facts and it's own merit and not allowing it to be contaminated with the complexities {excuses in my opinion} of the past. I personally do not feel that either side can justify their individual actions and a lot of innocent people were killed and injured for no logical reason.
That is my view also.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
For anything good to come out of this it would take the soldiers being returned home, the Lebanese Government taking control of their own border, and Israel both releasing innocent prisoners and to make a gesture of reparations to rebuild non-Hezbollah destroyed infrastructure and civilian areas.
Nobody is glorifying or condoning what they did with respect to firing missiles at civilian centres. I do hold to my view that they acted legitimately in aggressing against Israeli soldiers however.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
However, I stand firm that it would be a deadly mistake not to unitedly condemn what Hezbollah did as an act of terrorism and sort the rest out later.
Where in hell did I said Hezbollah is a country?AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Hmm, huh, What!, Oh!, Hell No he didn't just put that in writing!!!
Hezbollah is not a country and "no" Lebanon is not at war with Israel. Hezbollah is an armed militia that is directed and funded by Iran and supplied through Syria. Therefore they are not a country or even represent one Now, when a leader of a militia orders, and his followers accepts and carries out those orders, to cross into another country and kidnap people and subsequently people die then that would be an act of terrorism! Also, the people captured are not POW's they are hostages!! "Big difference".
Israel is in war with Lebanon before Hezbollah was created. In fact it was created by a lebanese in opposition to the Israel invasion in 1982. I assume the funds come from Iran and Syria. But it is no a militia only, it is a party with the 10% of the parliament. When, people captured are soldiers and the countries are in war they are POW's. Do your research or search in the dictionary. Do you have one? If not use wikipedia, it's the same shit.
You don't know a shit about what was going on in Lebanon. Hezbollah, is helping a lot of lebanese people since 1982, with funds from whatever, but they didn't use the people as shields as you suggested. Israel killed more than 1000 people over 2 POW's. They are soldiers so they're fucking POW's. It's war not terrorism dummy.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
Next point you applied the fubar logic too - A country retaliates against a known act of terrorism and takes out "command and control" points as well as known hideouts {this country was even nice enough to tell them to return the hostages or get the hell out before they strike against a target} sounds fair to me.
Now, here's the issue - the militia doesn't allow the people to evacuate and even provokes retaliation by firing missiles, from adjacent to civilian populated area's, at the civilian population of the country that they have committed an act of terrorism against - IT'S TERRORISM DUMMY!
Like I said you don't know a shit about it. Your family wasn't killed by Israel bombings. I certainly smell a lotta shit dude.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
I do think and I know how I feel. It's fucked-up but it was an act of terrorism and if we don't all unite against it we will never be able to resolve it - quit playing the word and debate game. If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and feels like shit then it's SHIT! Now do something so you don't step in it again
Reading your posts I assume you've been playing with tards a lot. Have a good nap.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
I can't play no more today my mom says it's time for my nap and playing with tards will lower my IQ.
Kaboom.
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It's a good start.
I wonder how many Lebanese prisoners Israel will release?
I wonder how many Lebanese prisoners Israel will release?
Better be none released. I say stop negotiations now. It will solve nothing. Hezbollah will just attack again. I say kill all those scum bags now, before they can regroup, rearm, and prepare.HM1{N} wrote:
It's a good start.
I wonder how many Lebanese prisoners Israel will release?
Ah the smell of prepubescence.Miller wrote:
Better be none released. I say stop negotiations now. It will solve nothing. Hezbollah will just attack again. I say kill all those scum bags now, before they can regroup, rearm, and prepare.HM1{N} wrote:
It's a good start.
I wonder how many Lebanese prisoners Israel will release?