No, 4GB is the limit with 32-bit addressing. They obviously have ways of working around that with server grade operating systems, but XP will address up to 4GB.HW--CHOPPER wrote:
window only recognizes 2.4 or so gig i think unless it x64stryyker wrote:
its the same fucking engine as BF2. The computer requirements are not that highthats not Dual Channel.doc. josh wrote:
un less u had a 2gb stick and a 1 gb stick that dule channle
is that right ????
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
core 2 duo ftw
Buzerk,Buzerk1 wrote:
I can't beleive the load of cr.... that has been told here.... BF2142 use BF2 engine.... meaning it's not a revolution but more an evolution, which also mean you will NOT need to change your PC. If you can barely play BF2, don't blame BF2142... YOU CAN BARELY PLAY THE GAME....change your PC, period.
I was trying to understand your comment but it is really confusing. You state that BF 2142 is an,
~ "...evolution, which also means that you will NOT need to change your PC."
What I don't understand is how something can, as you put it "evolve" without change. They are two actions that go side by side with growth.
Additionally you seem to contradict your previous statement of NOT needing to change your PC by stating,
~ "...If you can barely play BF2, don't blame BF2142... YOU CAN BARELY PLAY THE GAME....change your PC, period
According to your knowledge we DO NOT need to change our PCs at all for 2142. But if it doesn't play BF 2142, then we should change your PCs. Thats a great way of thinking, that way I'll never need to get GAS for my car until I COMPLETELY RUN OUT OF GAS. That way I'll know for sure I really need gas.
Buzerk you my friend are a genius,
Drew
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Buzerk1
I will grant you that Betas are an unfinished product. They have bugs and other things in them that developers/programmers are not aware of. That is why they are put out their for the public to try in addition to giving the public something to look forward to.
I seriously doubt 2142 for going to be able to run on my machine after my experience with G.R.A.W. and that game just came out 3 or 4 months ago.
If your old enough to remember Doom2 when it came it out, it would run somewhat on a 486SX25, but to run it without any issues you had to have a 486DX2-50 or better.
The minimum requirements for BF2 run the game with all the cool settings either on low or off, or the did when it first came out. Even now those minimum listed requirements won't run SF very well if at all. BF2142 will be more of the same. The recommended for BF2 will be the minimum for BF2142 and that won't be very well.
I will grant you that Betas are an unfinished product. They have bugs and other things in them that developers/programmers are not aware of. That is why they are put out their for the public to try in addition to giving the public something to look forward to.
I seriously doubt 2142 for going to be able to run on my machine after my experience with G.R.A.W. and that game just came out 3 or 4 months ago.
If your old enough to remember Doom2 when it came it out, it would run somewhat on a 486SX25, but to run it without any issues you had to have a 486DX2-50 or better.
The minimum requirements for BF2 run the game with all the cool settings either on low or off, or the did when it first came out. Even now those minimum listed requirements won't run SF very well if at all. BF2142 will be more of the same. The recommended for BF2 will be the minimum for BF2142 and that won't be very well.
Last edited by DSRTurtle (2006-08-31 04:28:36)
It's not about the dual core aspect. It's about the fundamental changes to the architecture. Core 2 offers a longer pipeline (14 stages) a wider pipeline (processing 4 instruction sets simultaneously) and ability to process a single 128 bit SSE instruction in one cycle (versus AMD 64 and P4 taking 2 cycles). Add the ability to dedicate all 4MB on die memory to one core and you have a very substantial gain over any other chip. Dual core aside, this is not a CPU to be ignored.ThomasMorgan wrote:
Wrong. Dual Core processors don't even have much, if any effect on running games.
Last edited by ShotYourSix (2006-08-31 10:50:09)
uh you can if you are running 64-bit and in Dual Channel Memory active.stryyker wrote:
...you cant have 3 GB of dual channel RAM, it wouldnt be dual channel anymore
why buy 3.8ghz p4... its a fucking heater... get a conroe... which is more power efficient and faster
Which is fastEST, I think you're trying to say.
Be interesting to see how AMD counters.
Be interesting to see how AMD counters.
dude i have a 2.8ghz intel pentium 4.. a Radeon x300/550 128mb, and 1gig of ram and im running the beta client FINE and smooth as hell on medium graphics.. trust me they recommend that but im not sure why because its really smooth for me.. i just dont have any spyware or anything.. i also have windows SP1 as well lmao.. dude trust me dont over-react shit systems like mine will work if you have 1gig of ram
2.8GHz p4 w/HT Intel
7600 GS
1GB Ram
Works like a charm on all high settings
Hell I could bear with a 5200.
7600 GS
1GB Ram
Works like a charm on all high settings
Hell I could bear with a 5200.
I had an:
PIV 1.7 GHz
ATI Radeon 9600XT 128mb
512mb ram
Minimum system requirements for bf2, and it ran. So if they say minimum, it's about the ultimate minimum because my pc had everything on low and loading times were still shit.
PIV 1.7 GHz
ATI Radeon 9600XT 128mb
512mb ram
Minimum system requirements for bf2, and it ran. So if they say minimum, it's about the ultimate minimum because my pc had everything on low and loading times were still shit.
Hell I might as well post my rig...
AMD Athlon 64 3000
2 Gigs Kingston Value Ram (DDR 400)
eVGA 7600 GT 256mb PCIe
All settings high but I dont touch the AA cause personally I never saw that big of a difference. Great frames, all the time.
Drew
AMD Athlon 64 3000
2 Gigs Kingston Value Ram (DDR 400)
eVGA 7600 GT 256mb PCIe
All settings high but I dont touch the AA cause personally I never saw that big of a difference. Great frames, all the time.
Drew
you could have 2 x 1 gig sticks in dual channel and 2 x 512mb ones.stryyker wrote:
its the same fucking engine as BF2. The computer requirements are not that highthats not Dual Channel.doc. josh wrote:
un less u had a 2gb stick and a 1 gb stick that dule channlestryyker wrote:
...you cant have 3 GB of dual channel RAM, it wouldnt be dual channel anymore
It's not the engine that's the problem. It's what it is compiled that, that will be the problem.
My big wonder is DirectX 10. Im sure that will be a back breaker for some older systems. Does anyone have in informtaion about DX 10 and BF 2142?
Drew
Drew
I agree with the analysis of Drew in general.
My rule of thumb is :
"Minimum requirements" (of new games) = below par in terms of reasonable/competitive gameplay
--> marketing of the game
"Recommended requirements" = actual minimum requirement
--> performance of the game
My rule of thumb is :
"Minimum requirements" (of new games) = below par in terms of reasonable/competitive gameplay
--> marketing of the game
"Recommended requirements" = actual minimum requirement
--> performance of the game
Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2006-09-02 13:34:57)
Are you kidding? I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester 1.8 on an MSI K8N Neo4 with two gigs of PC3200 Dual Channel memory and an ATI XT1900--I run 2142 with EVERYTHING on max: all settings to high, 8 AA and full filtering. Game runs smooth as butter on a bald monkey.{MOD}DREW wrote:
I remember when I bought BF2 about a year ago I had a beaming smile on my face and a quick paced beat in my heart. I ran to the local video store and bought myself my copy, ripped open the plastic cover with my car keys and was amazed and excited all at the same time; it was like my first bicycle on Christmas Day. When I returned home I loaded the various discs, installed the game and watched in awe as the opening video launched. I chose my weapon of "Pure Pwnage," created an EA Account and dove right in. Unfortunately I lagged, everything skipped, my system froze up, I encountered the blue screen of death, and I even crashed to desktop. I sat there confused, annoyed and downright bummed. As it turned out though my system had held up to the requirements of what EA suggested it seemed that it just wasn't enough for the game to run on an advanced setting and my own satisfaction. Reluctantly I upgraded my system, effectively making my bank account as empty as my recycle bin.
With that in the past we are at another crossroads with 2142 nipping at our collected heels. An extremely large online community awaits a depart from the traditional classic multiplayer that was BF2 and prepares for a new, futuristic experience sure to refresh the already established community as well as invite new ones. My main concern is what plagued many-a-gamer when BF2 first came out, and that is the expense of upgrading.
Here is a list of what BF 2142 is "Recommending" for system requirements.
Recommended System Requirements: BF2142
Operating system: Windows XP with latest service pack installed
DirectX 9.0c February 2006 edition (included)
CPU: 3.0 Ghz
RAM: 1.5 Gb
Video Card: 256Mb DirectX compliant video card, Pixel shader 2.0 and above.
Hard Drive space: 1.8Gb of space is required to install the game
Internet connection: 512Mb Cable/DSL connection
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Now if we were to turn back time to when BF2 came out, about a year ago, we can see what the system requirements were at that time.
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: BF2
Windows XP (32-bit) with Admin rights
1.7 GHz Intel Celeron D / Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP/ Sempron or greater
512 MB of RAM or more
8x or faster CD/DVD drive
2.3 GB free hard drive space or more
Video: DirectX 9.0c compatible (see video)
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible (Sound Blaster X-Fi series recommended )
VIDEO
Video card must have 128 MB or more memory and one of the following chipsets:
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 or greater
ATI Radeon 8500 or greater
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This is my concern. When BF2 came out EA suggested system requirements that hardly ran the game. The gameplay was quite unstable and most settings had to be set to LOW. Currently my setup runs BF2 well enough to where I can set everything on High without any AA/AS settings, but they are completely different from what EA suggested when the game was introduced. For example:
BF2: Suggested vs. BF2: Actual
1.) 1.7 GHz Intel Celeron D 1.) Athlon 3000 64-bit
Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP
Sempron or greater
2.) 512 MB of RAM or more 2.) 2 Gigs of at least DDR400 (3200) RAM
3.) Video card must have 128 MB 3.) 7600 GT (PCIe) 256mb
or more memory and one of the
following chipsets:
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 or greater
ATI Radeon 8500 or greater
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Seeing that both my CPU and GPU were 2 generations ahead of the suggested and my RAM was four times the requirement I shudder at the thought at the initial requirements for BF2142. If the numbers were the same from our previous experience then we would expect something such as this.
BF 2142: Suggested vs. BF 2142: Speculated*
1.) CPU: 3.0 Ghz 1.) CPU: 3.8 Ghz (dual core / 64 bit minimum)
2.) RAM: 1.5 Gb 2.) RAM: 3 Gb (DDR 400 minimum / dual channel)
3.) Video Card: 256Mb DirectX 3.) Video Card: 512Mb
compliant video card,
Pixel shader 2.0 and above.
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Ok... so let's crunch some numbers shall we. If we were to hop on over to newegg.com for our needs let's see what we would be spending for this highly anticipated game.
Shopping List Speculated*:
1.) CPU: 3.8 Ghz (dual core / 64 bit minimum); 2.) RAM: 3 Gb (DDR 400 minimum / dual channel); 3.) Video Card: 512Mb
What we got:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail $187.00
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM ECC Registered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail $303.00
ATI Radeon X1950 XTX - Retail $449
Total: $939 (approx)
Though this is a speculation* of times to come and everyone's idea of optimal gameplay is different, one cannot overlook the changes that PC gamers financially deal with as 6-month old technology becomes obsolete. With the current state of PC technology and its ever changing environment combined with the advances developers have made over the past year alone one can see the unbelievable growth gaming has had over time. When we all power down for the night hardcore gamers that want only the best will upgrade regularly, but their numbers are few compared to the majority of gamers that simply cannot afford the speed at which their recreation changes.
GL and HF,
Drew
The author can be reached at www.moveordie.net
AND it's in BETA form, which means it isn't nearly optimized yet. I have few worries.
Bel
Last edited by TheBelcorwyn (2006-09-02 16:09:37)
Currently i run bf2 on a 2.6 pentium 4, 1.5 gig of RAM and on a 256 nvidia 6200 and i run a custom setting where about 60% of the options are on medium and the rest low and i have a great gaming experience. Now maybe im one of those peeps who dont care about prettiness of graphics and x6 anti aliasing n all the rest and i can understand other peoples desire to have everything on high and your screen going at 15 gigapixels per second at 60fps but lets face a few bits of common sense here that has been lost in this maelstrom.
Admittedly, 2142 is by nature going to be a higher minimum spec game than bf2, that is only expected but im sure the boffins at EA had some form of intelligence to make them think 'Ok we wanna keep our current fan base with 2142, some of those peeps are running low spec systems but we want to appeal to the powerhouse players.' And so acted accordingly.
Cmon we are all gamers here either by hobby or profession and through experience its easy enough to see that players currently running bf2 on mid to high settings are safe with 2142 and those running the bare minimum may want to consider a small upgrade, not a grand but maybe just to bolster CPU or maybe a new graphics chip. We all know what EA is like with patches n stuff but they arent stupid, if any of you peeps are running anything like ive got and above then you have nothing to worry about tbh, just keep all your drivers up to date and your sorted .
And i agree with TheBelcorwyn on the optimisation issue. The beta is hardly an valid comparison to what the real mccoy will be considering EA havent optimised the game yet so tbh if your running beta fine, you will run finished product fine.
Admittedly, 2142 is by nature going to be a higher minimum spec game than bf2, that is only expected but im sure the boffins at EA had some form of intelligence to make them think 'Ok we wanna keep our current fan base with 2142, some of those peeps are running low spec systems but we want to appeal to the powerhouse players.' And so acted accordingly.
Cmon we are all gamers here either by hobby or profession and through experience its easy enough to see that players currently running bf2 on mid to high settings are safe with 2142 and those running the bare minimum may want to consider a small upgrade, not a grand but maybe just to bolster CPU or maybe a new graphics chip. We all know what EA is like with patches n stuff but they arent stupid, if any of you peeps are running anything like ive got and above then you have nothing to worry about tbh, just keep all your drivers up to date and your sorted .
And i agree with TheBelcorwyn on the optimisation issue. The beta is hardly an valid comparison to what the real mccoy will be considering EA havent optimised the game yet so tbh if your running beta fine, you will run finished product fine.
Last edited by Griffolion (2006-09-12 09:41:01)
lol i have 2.5 GB RAM 6600 GeFroce and I lag when there is much action with everything on low.
This game uses the same engine as BF2... The requirements may have gone up thats because they realised they put them too low so they have raised them for BF2142 however same engine = same requirements.
lol yeahskizzz wrote:
well im not going to get 2142 then, I'm not gonna waste money upgrading for a game that will have serious bug issues, I think we learned that with bf2
This is what the FREE demo is for. Nevermind what you could or couldn't do in the beta. Test the demo release, if it works, good, if not, dont buy it.
Min Req is to just play the game. Hence MINIMUM requirements.
Just like anything else if you want better you gotta pay more. Upgrade your rig. Dont expect to buy a Ford Escort and be able to drive it like a Ferrari.
Min Req is to just play the game. Hence MINIMUM requirements.
Just like anything else if you want better you gotta pay more. Upgrade your rig. Dont expect to buy a Ford Escort and be able to drive it like a Ferrari.
well i can rest assure that if the P.O.S dell that I'm on at work runs the game then pretty much anyone of the above mentioned rigs will run it Too! check your drivers and make sure u have no viruses or spy-ware and shut down all unnecessary background applications BTW here are the specs on this beauty = 1.8g p4 no-HT 768 single channel ddr1 20gig ata100 and a cheap $50 ati Rx9550 the only upgrade that i have done to it recently!!! LOL
BTW:NEWEGG rocks!!!
PS: my home system is better but not dual core and its still agp =
3000+ AMD 64 2gig dual channel ddr nvidia NX6600 256mb 250gig sata drive
BTW:NEWEGG rocks!!!
PS: my home system is better but not dual core and its still agp =
3000+ AMD 64 2gig dual channel ddr nvidia NX6600 256mb 250gig sata drive
All I know is that I had to run everything on Medium for BF2
but for BF214 I can run them on High with no problems
So instead of bitching about the requirements and reccomendations you should just play the game. Most of you complaining already have 'teh uber' systems and mine is far from it, if I can play it on high then you can quit your bitching
but for BF214 I can run them on High with no problems
So instead of bitching about the requirements and reccomendations you should just play the game. Most of you complaining already have 'teh uber' systems and mine is far from it, if I can play it on high then you can quit your bitching
Last edited by MDKThePriest (2006-10-19 16:32:59)
a $1000 compy is cheap as balls