The secret cannot be kept that long we evolve and information is free for all.
And yes it will happen sometime on the time line.
And yes it will happen sometime on the time line.
Doing favors for sailors, omfg, why would I copy that into my sig?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
I say we let Iran develop nuclear power stations, however, not on Iranian soil. Perhaps on Russian soil as has been discussed earlier. (couldnt be fucked to read the article so i could be way off topic )
LOL , Iv'e been getting a lot of that...cpt.fass1 wrote:
Wow I kinda agree with you, and feel so dirty about it.lowing wrote:
Well, this going to sound condescending but, I opt for the US to let whatever happens happen. For better or worse, America can ill afford to get tangled up in yet another quagmire. Iran is going to be more of a problem to THAT side of the world than this side. I say, let Europe handle it. I feel if the US refuses to do the dirty work, (that is, the work that everyone WANTS to see done but likes to sit in the background and NOT get THEIR hands dirty with controversy) the EU will criticize the US for letting this threat grow., and beg for them to do something.sergeriver wrote:
I don't know. I think Iraq was a good defense against Iran, but now it ain't a threat to Iran. I think they're going to use the plutonium for energy purposes, but they're probably using it for nuclear weapons as well. They have a deadline on august 31, but I think they don't give a damn for that, if they open this facility 5 days before. That's because I think war in iran is about to start.
Your insane. . . you have no clue what your talking aboutoug wrote:
Iran is entitled to have nukes as much as the US, Israel, Pakistan, India, France etc etc. All these governments are equally irresponsible in having them so one more won't hurt nobody. It may even bring stability to the area.
Iran is the main supporter of Hezbollah for sure with Syria. They gave them the money, weapons, and stuff. They used Lebanon as base to attack Israel. I don't want Hezbollah having a nuke.
Isn't that natural desire now and then countered by peoples natural desire for a strong and charismatic leader? Add religion to the mix and the desire for (western?) freedom easily looses its appeal.ATG wrote:
Could be. But what about the peoples natural desire for freedom?
u got the point!sergeriver wrote:
Iran is the main supporter of Hezbollah for sure with Syria. They gave them the money, weapons, and stuff. They used Lebanon as base to attack Israel. I don't want Hezbollah having a nuke.
Do you not think Iran is taking advantage of this?{TL}SHARPSHOOTER wrote:
I know! Lets nuke the fuck outta Iran b4 they hit us! But seriously I agree with leaving the Iranians to whatever the fuck they want for know.
1. Were still dealing with Iraq
2. We STILL have troops in Afghanistan
3. After they get that fancy energy-thingymajigy theyre not gonna get a real good nuke for a long time...or
are they...dun dun dun...
spray_and_pray wrote:
People actually believe that Iran is going to make nukes hah like posted you need an enrichment plant which Iran hasnt got.
Many believe they already have them from the old Soviet Union. There are reports of up to 3. It's their ability to be able to manufacture their own we are concerned about.JimmyBotswana wrote:
They won't have a nuclear weapon for ten years according to recent intelligence estimates. So why all the panic?
Drawing moral equivalence with the current Nuclear powers and someone who has stated time and time again that another country should be wiped off the map?alpinestar wrote:
Like any other country they have the right to defend at all possible cost,
Most of the rest of the world has their hands in Iran pocket.lowing wrote:
I feel if the US refuses to do the dirty work, (that is, the work that everyone WANTS to see done but likes to sit in the background and NOT get THEIR hands dirty with controversy) the EU will criticize the US for letting this threat grow., and beg for them to do something.
Nuclear power? Isn't Iran sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies ?
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Xbone Stormsurgezz
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.Kmarion wrote:
Nuclear power? Isn't Iran sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies ?
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOLjonsimon wrote:
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.Kmarion wrote:
Nuclear power? Isn't Iran sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies ?
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
The West claims that more than six million Jews were killed in World War II and to compensate for that they established and support Israel. If it is true that the Jews were killed in Europe, why should Israel be established in the East, in Palestine?
Ahmadinejad wrote:
If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?
Ahmadinejad wrote:
Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed.
Ahmadinejad wrote:
Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm.
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He's talking short term, and what exactly did he say that put SOOO much emphasis on oil, the only thing I got from that statement is that nuclear is the way to go.CameronPoe wrote:
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOLjonsimon wrote:
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.Kmarion wrote:
Nuclear power? Isn't Iran sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies ?
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
Edit: NM, I understand your "funny" statement, but he was talking short term. (Next 40-50 years) After which oil will be gone
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So you believe Iran when it says the developement is peaceful purposes? Why did Iran freeze inspections ? Why are they developing P-2 centrifuges ?CameronPoe wrote:
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOLjonsimon wrote:
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.Kmarion wrote:
Nuclear power? Isn't Iran sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies ?
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
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Xbone Stormsurgezz
There wont be war, UN will just place trade sanctions on them so they get fucked and starve to death.
Their intention doesn't have anything to with the fact that you raised an inane point. We simply demonstrated the stupidity in listing their oil reserves as a point against them.Kmarion wrote:
So you believe Iran when it says the developement is peaceful purposes? Why did Iran freeze inspections ? Why are they developing P-2 centrifuges ?CameronPoe wrote:
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOLjonsimon wrote:
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
I listed many things to consider, you picked one to defend.jonsimon wrote:
Their intention doesn't have anything to with the fact that you raised an inane point. We simply demonstrated the stupidity in listing their oil reserves as a point against them.Kmarion wrote:
So you believe Iran when it says the developement is peaceful purposes? Why did Iran freeze inspections ? Why are they developing P-2 centrifuges ?CameronPoe wrote:
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOL
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.Kmarion wrote:
I listed many things to consider, you picked one to defend.jonsimon wrote:
Their intention doesn't have anything to with the fact that you raised an inane point. We simply demonstrated the stupidity in listing their oil reserves as a point against them.Kmarion wrote:
So you believe Iran when it says the developement is peaceful purposes? Why did Iran freeze inspections ? Why are they developing P-2 centrifuges ?
Wait wait, why do you think its stupid again, I'm not following. No need to be a smartass, just re-iterate your point, I think it might help us all.jonsimon wrote:
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.Kmarion wrote:
I listed many things to consider, you picked one to defend.jonsimon wrote:
Their intention doesn't have anything to with the fact that you raised an inane point. We simply demonstrated the stupidity in listing their oil reserves as a point against them.
Jonsimon is a troll. He does this in EVERY thread and you people fall for it EVERY time.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Wait wait, why do you think its stupid again, I'm not following. No need to be a smartass, just re-iterate your point, I think it might help us all.jonsimon wrote:
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.Kmarion wrote:
I listed many things to consider, you picked one to defend.
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My point would be that it would be more understandable for a country to develop new energy technology if they were on the verge of dealing with an energy crisis. Aside from every other obvious point. That comment was not a definitive answer meant to stand alone but rather with the entire group of statements I made in an attempt to piece together the puzzle. Pull one remark out of a list to be questioned alone and yes it does not seem to make sense in the context of what I was saying.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Because, like previously stated, oil reserves are irrellevant to nuclear power.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Wait wait, why do you think its stupid again, I'm not following. No need to be a smartass, just re-iterate your point, I think it might help us all.jonsimon wrote:
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.Kmarion wrote:
I listed many things to consider, you picked one to defend.
The most cost effective method of producing large quantities of power is to supply a baseline powergrid using nuclear power, with nuclear plants producing an amount less than that consumed during the lowest point of consumption in a typical year. Then, supplement nuclear power with a variable output source, such as fuels, to provide the remaining demand for power.
Different power sources act differently, fuels and nuclear energy are not comparable.
Impressive knowledge of how power systems operate! I work for the Irish National Grid myself! No nuclear plants though...jonsimon wrote:
Because, like previously stated, oil reserves are irrellevant to nuclear power.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Wait wait, why do you think its stupid again, I'm not following. No need to be a smartass, just re-iterate your point, I think it might help us all.jonsimon wrote:
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.
The most cost effective method of producing large quantities of power is to supply a baseline powergrid using nuclear power, with nuclear plants producing an amount less than that consumed during the lowest point of consumption in a typical year. Then, supplement nuclear power with a variable output source, such as fuels, to provide the remaining demand for power.
Different power sources act differently, fuels and nuclear energy are not comparable.
I don't doubt for a minute that they're developing nuclear weapons. Wouldn't you if you had the US breathing down your neck and a terrorist state not too far away sharpening their knives? North Korea really showed them how its' done: Get the bomb = welcome to immunity from attack!!Kmarion wrote:
So you believe Iran when it says the developement is peaceful purposes? Why did Iran freeze inspections ? Why are they developing P-2 centrifuges ?CameronPoe wrote:
OH yeah - I forgot - oil is inexhaustible and will last forever!! LOLjonsimon wrote:
And? Oil is not comprable to Nuclear power. Nuclear power is the most effecient form of production currently avaliable. Nuclear plants are meant to be used as supply for base consumption supplemented with other forms of energy. Nuclear power is extremely important and in the long run reduces energy costs significantly.
The fact that they have oil doesn't change the importance and usefulness of Nuclear power.
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Also, Get the bomb = wipe Israel off the map.CameronPoe wrote:
I don't doubt for a minute that they're developing nuclear weapons. Wouldn't you if you had the US breathing down your neck and a terrorist state not too far away sharpening their knives? North Korea really showed them how its' done: Get the bomb = welcome to immunity from attack!!
Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Ahmadinejad wrote:
They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets.Ahmadinejad wrote:
We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them.Ahmadinejad wrote:
The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless.Ahmadinejad wrote:
The West claims that more than six million Jews were killed in World War II and to compensate for that they established and support Israel. If it is true that the Jews were killed in Europe, why should Israel be established in the East, in Palestine?Ahmadinejad wrote:
If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?Ahmadinejad wrote:
Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury.Ahmadinejad wrote:
Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations.Ahmadinejad wrote:
The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map.Ahmadinejad wrote:
If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated.Ahmadinejad wrote:
Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed.Ahmadinejad wrote:
Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm.
Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-08-28 11:27:38)
LOL I don't fall for it, I'm just too optimistic I guess, just giving him lots of chances to prove he's not a complete moron.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Jonsimon is a troll. He does this in EVERY thread and you people fall for it EVERY time.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Wait wait, why do you think its stupid again, I'm not following. No need to be a smartass, just re-iterate your point, I think it might help us all.jonsimon wrote:
I picked one to point out how stupid it was. I didn't pick a side in your argument, and I was not the intended recepient of your argument.