USAFDude_1988
Will fly for food.
+120|6752|Daytona Beach, FL

Bertster7 wrote:

Release all muslims from US jails, lol.

Those journalists are fucked.

Still it's no less than FOX 'journalists' deserve (maybe a little harsh - but I've watched FOX news, wishing someone would kill all their correspondants and quick, many times) - FOX 'News' my arse.
Go fuck yourself. Just because FOX is biased doesn't mean those guys deserve to die. Jesus Christ.. listen to yourself sometimes.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France

jonsimon wrote:

No, I refuse to entertain your hypotheticals because you are claiming to consider every eventuality, a feat which is summarily impossible.
Since you haven't responded, I guess you also refuse to entertain supporting your own hypothetical, a feat which is summarily impossible.
mafia996630
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+319|7007|d
i don't think they will kill em. plus did u hear what HAMAS are saying. very interesting.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

Pug wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

No, I refuse to entertain your hypotheticals because you are claiming to consider every eventuality, a feat which is summarily impossible.
Since you haven't responded, I guess you also refuse to entertain supporting your own hypothetical, a feat which is summarily impossible.
Huh? I never made up any hypothetical scenarios.

All I said was the kidnappers should be arrested, tried, and sentenced.
beerface702
Member
+65|6936|las vegas

SFCCDailey wrote:

I think we need to start sending a message back to these asshat kidnappers! You kill and american then we kill 10 Muslim prisoners! You kill one with a gun we kill your 10 with a steak knife! Start fighting fire with fire! And make sure we broadcast it live on FOX NEWS!!!!!! LOL
i agree

fuck being tender hearted. its time to get tuff with our enemy
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France

jonsimon wrote:

Pug wrote:

jonsimon wrote:


Arrest, trial, sentence. Just like it always has been. Why should this incident be any different?
I agree with that...but wait...aren't they asking for the release of all US Arab prisoners?

If the group is doing the kidnapping to release all US Arab prisoners...won't there be a future reason for more killings?

Do you see the flaw?
I'm not going to analyze the antagonists' motives because I do not know them. But treating the situation in anything but a fair and orderly manner according to protocol is going to exacerbate the problem.

If their motive is simply to release islamic prisoners, than they are being unreasonable and the problem cannot be alleviated, only tolerated.

If their motive is something more complex and rational, such as to release all innocent islamic prisoners or all islamic prisoners held without trial, then the solution is obviously to try all the prisoners in a fair and orderly manner.

The compromise depends on their true motive.
This is not an answer to my initial question.

So I'll ask again - If the group is doing the kidnapping to release all US Arab prisoners...won't there be a future reason for more killings if they are arrested after killing the journalists?

I added the following to see if you considered any of these:
No Negotiations
1) The extremists kill the journalists.

Results (choose as many as you wish):
1) No new groups spring up because no one has been martyred and no demands were met.
2) They are happy and go back to a normal, non-violent lifestyle, because they know they will not get anything from hostage negotiation.
3) They kidnap again.
4) They are killed, thereby creating more matyrs for the cause.
5) They are imprisoned, thereby creating another solidier of Allah wrongly imprisoned.

You chose not to comment, and refused to entertain hypotheticals (definition: a theorical solution or reasoning, which includes your statement that imprisonment should be considered).

Secondly, I have stated my opinion - its a win-win for the terrorists, and a lose-lose for anyone who isn't a terrorist...so I'm not trying to get you on the defensive...I'm trying to get you to actually support your idea!

Also, reading thru your posts in this thread...when did I become uninformed?  It might be impossible to claim every eventuallity, but is it a stretch to actually get you to support your idea?
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

Pug wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Pug wrote:


I agree with that...but wait...aren't they asking for the release of all US Arab prisoners?

If the group is doing the kidnapping to release all US Arab prisoners...won't there be a future reason for more killings?

Do you see the flaw?
I'm not going to analyze the antagonists' motives because I do not know them. But treating the situation in anything but a fair and orderly manner according to protocol is going to exacerbate the problem.

If their motive is simply to release islamic prisoners, than they are being unreasonable and the problem cannot be alleviated, only tolerated.

If their motive is something more complex and rational, such as to release all innocent islamic prisoners or all islamic prisoners held without trial, then the solution is obviously to try all the prisoners in a fair and orderly manner.

The compromise depends on their true motive.
This is not an answer to my initial question.

So I'll ask again - If the group is doing the kidnapping to release all US Arab prisoners...won't there be a future reason for more killings if they are arrested after killing the journalists?

I added the following to see if you considered any of these:
No Negotiations
1) The extremists kill the journalists.

Results (choose as many as you wish):
1) No new groups spring up because no one has been martyred and no demands were met.
2) They are happy and go back to a normal, non-violent lifestyle, because they know they will not get anything from hostage negotiation.
3) They kidnap again.
4) They are killed, thereby creating more matyrs for the cause.
5) They are imprisoned, thereby creating another solidier of Allah wrongly imprisoned.

You chose not to comment, and refused to entertain hypotheticals (definition: a theorical solution or reasoning, which includes your statement that imprisonment should be considered).

Secondly, I have stated my opinion - its a win-win for the terrorists, and a lose-lose for anyone who isn't a terrorist...so I'm not trying to get you on the defensive...I'm trying to get you to actually support your idea!

Also, reading thru your posts in this thread...when did I become uninformed?  It might be impossible to claim every eventuallity, but is it a stretch to actually get you to support your idea?
I still don't see why we should do anything different than the norm. My suggestion wasn't really a hypothetical,  it was just standard procedure.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6898|United States of America
The way you stop this sort of kidnapping by Muslim retards is by kidnapping all the head Islamic Clerics and demanding that the letter "J" be stricken from the Arabic dialetic.....  When it doesn't happen you post pictures of them doing crazy stuff on www.horselovinmuslims.com with new pictures every week for the rest of their lives or until the letter "J" is stricken.  Lets see them wage Jihad then, or should I say ihad.

My Motto is "If were gonna wage war on 'em, let's at least do it with a sense of humor".
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France

jonsimon wrote:

I still don't see why we should do anything different than the norm. My suggestion wasn't really a hypothetical,  it was just standard procedure.
Rats, I was hoping you would actually comment on something that is morally right.

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