Hooray for relativity!!comet241 wrote:
bush won ohio in 04 by about 136,000 votes. thats a landslide compared to florida i 00
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Is Bush an Idiot?
| Yes | 69% | 69% - 377 | ||||
| No | 30% | 30% - 166 | ||||
| Total: 543 | ||||||
The outsider issue mmm? Nice form to express. Anyway, I have relatives in your country, it's my own Cia. You and me were probably watching the same fuckin CNN. So...comet241 wrote:
ok, i was going to respond, but you covered pretty well.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
1) I don't think thats what he meant, he only meant that you as an outsider obviously has less direct knowledge of what happened here, I think its safe to say thats true.sergeriver wrote:
1: Didn't know it was required to be american to talk about the elections, which you only could know about being there at that moment. I apologize.
2.You're american and you're wrong. In America you don't need more votes to win, you can still win having less votes than the other guy. Gore had more votes than Bush, only that he stole Florida votes to gain the electors from that state. In fact that is what you vote, electors who then decide for you.
3.If Kerry would have stolen some votes from Ohio, he'd be president, despite the fact that the guy sucks.
2) Well it depends on what you thought he meant, sure Gore had more popular votes but electoral votes are all that matters. He only said you need one more vote than the other guy. Well yeah one more electoral vote, don't be so quick to assume
3) Ummm no!? Ohio was locked up, ok look at these facts:
A) More people voted in the last election than only a couple other elections in the history of the US.
B) Bush received ~4 MILLION more popular votes than Kerry.
C) Bush also received more than enough electoral votes from different states that Ohio didn't matter. (It usually does though)
And at least were on the same page that Kerry sucks
the outsider issue: you were not here during the elections, therefore you have less direct knowledge of what went on here than i did. that is a fact, pure and simple.
the vote issue: popular votes and electoral votes are still votes. you only need one more of each to win (popular to win the state, electoral to win the election)
ohio: what the hell do you mean stolen votes??? nobody steals votes. the only people who claim conspiracy and vote stealing are the people who cannot accept defeat. move on. focus on the next election. dwelling in the past will only bury you.
and jonsimon, please, please respond when you are back from wherever you are. your posts in the last couple days have made little to no sense at all.
Anyway, Ohio does matter, if Kerry would won those votes he'd be president. I think the number is 271 vs. 265 electoral votes if Kerry had Ohio. It's the second election that smells to fraud.
You know this total debate is BS. Shipbuilder being the biggest bunghole of them also. Who cares, he won, he is in office, he will be out! I think the purpose of this debate is to: one bate people so you guys can thrash them with your awesome biased thinking, and two: so that you can bone up on your anti-bush credentials to prove what, I have no idea!
It is a pointless debate, which in essence makes us all morons for taking part in it!
I say it again, only time will allow us to judge this president correctly, give another 10 years before you truly say he is an idiot. Because you guys are only throwing RED MEAT around!
It is a pointless debate, which in essence makes us all morons for taking part in it!
I say it again, only time will allow us to judge this president correctly, give another 10 years before you truly say he is an idiot. Because you guys are only throwing RED MEAT around!
ht_fly wrote:
You know this total debate is BS. Shipbuilder being the biggest bunghole of them also.
But isn't all debate on the Internet pointless?ht_fly wrote:
Who cares, he won, he is in office, he will be out! I think the purpose of this debate is to: one bate people so you guys can thrash them with your awesome biased thinking, and two: so that you can bone up on your anti-bush credentials to prove what, I have no idea!
It is a pointless debate, which in essence makes us all morons for taking part in it!
What's the point of complaining about our debate? Aren't you just thrashing us for our thrashing?
What's the point of doing anything with our leisure time at all? Shouldn't we be out being industrious, rather than wasting hundreds of hours of our collective thought and energy? Shouldn't we be out changing the world?
Ok the tally is in and with more then twice the votes of his approval rateing right now... It's offical Bush is an Idiot this is only the view point of our fine friends and familys contributing to bf2s and has no effect on how the real world views him..
never would have guessed, Does Bush masturbate in the oval office after his country is attacked ?cpt.fass1 wrote:
Someone actually wrote Ross Perot in that's awesome. I think next election I'm going to write myself in even though I'm too young
If the answer is no, he is a couple big steps up in the eyes of many Americans... over nine years of age that is
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1) ORLY, I'll get to this in a moment.CameronPoe wrote:
1) 'Taking the fight to the terrorists'? The Iraqi government had nothing to do with 9/11.
2) If you or the other poster actually believe that Kerry being in power would mean 'total war in the middle east' and 'daily terror attacks in the west' then I'm sorry but you are deluded.
2) Nope sure don't, just pointing out your lack of ability to read properly. Yes we have made "progress" whether you like it or not in fighting terrorism, sure Iraq is fux, I agree, I never said it was a jewel of the middle east, thats for damn sure, but its far better than sitting the fux over here doing not a god damn thing waiting for crazy assed EXTREME Muslims (I made sure you SEE the word extreme this time).
1) O RLY? So why was Saddam meeting with Al Qaeda operatives and financees before we invaded and BEFORE 9/11, why were funds funneling from Iraq to Afghanistan through Zarqawi (Whos affiliated heavily with Al Qaeda) How do YOU know for SURE that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11, that is my ONE and ONLY question to you. Lets see if you can answer it.
1) First of all, I wasn't trying to be offensive in any way, calm down, I was only inferring that you may not understand fully as much as I.sergeriver wrote:
1) The outsider issue mmm? Nice form to express.
2) Anyway, I have relatives in your country, it's my own Cia.
3) You and me were probably watching the same fuckin CNN. So...
4) Anyway, Ohio does matter, if Kerry would won those votes he'd be president. I think the number is 271 vs. 265 electoral votes if Kerry had Ohio. It's the second election that smells to fraud.
2) Ok....
3) I prefer not to get my bad news from CNN (James Bond movie quote)
4) Yeah, we already cleared that up, I mis stated something, if you knew how to read, you'd know that by now and would not have brought it up, unless you're being an ass or something. At any rate, no big deal. Back to the topic, how did Bush graduate from college, let alone an Ivy school by being an idiot?
Bush is smarter than about 90% of the people in this forum. Thats why he's the most powerful man in the world and we just sit around and talk about him. This talk gets us no where. We have no way of getting him out on our own. He's not doing that bad of a job. He's doing more than Clinton at least.
+100Capt_Flapjack wrote:
Bush is smarter than about 90% of the people in this forum. Thats why he's the most powerful man in the world and we just sit around and talk about him. This talk gets us no where. We have no way of getting him out on our own. He's not doing that bad of a job. He's doing more than Clinton at least.
Y Ross Perot masturbated in the oval office?Horseman 77 wrote:
never would have guessed, Does Bush masturbate in the oval office after his country is attacked ?cpt.fass1 wrote:
Someone actually wrote Ross Perot in that's awesome. I think next election I'm going to write myself in even though I'm too young
If the answer is no, he is a couple big steps up in the eyes of many Americans... over nine years of age that is
LOL, have fun in fantasy land. I'd say Bush is probably as intelligent as Horseman_77 or Lisik, and EVERYONE here is smarter than those two.Capt_Flapjack wrote:
Bush is smarter than about 90% of the people in this forum. Thats why he's the most powerful man in the world and we just sit around and talk about him. This talk gets us no where. We have no way of getting him out on our own. He's not doing that bad of a job. He's doing more than Clinton at least.
I don't think our president is the most powerful man in the world of a matter of fact if 70% of the people on this forum thinks he's an idiot that means more then likely 70% of world leaders that have to deal with him think so to. Which drops our "power" down. Why do you think alot of our allies where not with us on the Invasion of Iraq?? Because Bush couldn't properly sell it to them.Capt_Flapjack wrote:
Bush is smarter than about 90% of the people in this forum. Thats why he's the most powerful man in the world and we just sit around and talk about him. This talk gets us no where. We have no way of getting him out on our own. He's not doing that bad of a job. He's doing more than Clinton at least.
And what has Bush done? Granted the severaty of the problems that have happened in his terms have been the worst in years for this country. He has not actually done anything to fix these problems.. Power-1 Bush -0
I find it funny how all the people who hate Bush are typically the same ones saying 911 was an inside job and that Bush created it. If he is so stupid how could he manage that? It's one thing to disagree on a policy and suggest an alternative but just saying "Bush is an idiot" really reflects poorly on the one spouting it.
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Well I took it off of The_Shipbuilder sig and thought it would be a fun poll, and show me where I've ever said 9/11 was an inside job?
1) How do you equate people on an internet forum with world leaders, I gotta hear this one.cpt.fass1 wrote:
1) if 70% of the people on this forum thinks he's an idiot that means more then likely 70% of world leaders that have to deal with him think so too.
2) Why do you think alot of our allies where not with us on the Invasion of Iraq?? Because Bush couldn't properly sell it to them.
2) Wow, it wasn't Bush's fault, it is the lack of action that the world has, it is the lack of action and the impotency of the UN that caused that, it is people not giving a damn until their country is attacked by terrorists. Why have the terrorists only been hitting UK and US targets lately? Because we're fighting them? Yes and No, they don't want more enemies.
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Because a President who is a poor public speaker is not doing his job properly.
So by that rationale we should just elect a used car salesman?
Because a President who is a poor public speaker is not doing his job properly.
So by that rationale we should just elect a used car salesman?
Exactly, +1.kingchoad wrote:
Because a President who is a poor public speaker is not doing his job properly.
So by that rationale we should just elect a used car salesman?
1) not equating people on an internet forum with world leaders just seeing the similarit's between this poll and pretty much any other poll I've seen. Imagine bush seated down with Tony Blair and talking to him the same way he address's us Yokals? Now take Toney Blair and put 10-20 other different world leaders in front of him, how many do you think would actually put up with being talked to like that? HE IS OUR PRESIDENT(I almost put leader but I'm not a follower), he is the first impression to other country's.. How many people here have quit jobs because of a stupid boss? I know I have..
So from that assumption and our ally's don't really support us. Inaction of the world, let's remember that we're only a part of this world and have to co-exist with the people who aren't all yeah america get terrorist...
Oh and India, eygpt, was spain pretty recent too? They aren't just solely attacking U.S. targets. and Iran(terrorist county just attack romania),,
what is our main goal in the middle east?
So from that assumption and our ally's don't really support us. Inaction of the world, let's remember that we're only a part of this world and have to co-exist with the people who aren't all yeah america get terrorist...
Oh and India, eygpt, was spain pretty recent too? They aren't just solely attacking U.S. targets. and Iran(terrorist county just attack romania),,
what is our main goal in the middle east?
I had high hopes that he wouldn't have been an idiot, I really did. THere was no bias in the question, I didn't sway it one way or anything till I think about 3 pages in... But the internet doesn't lie, that's where we find the truth about what people think.
Wow your pretty bad at this point by point thing aren't you.cpt.fass1 wrote:
1) not equating people on an internet forum with world leaders just seeing the similarit's between this poll and pretty much any other poll I've seen.
2) Oh and India, eygpt, was spain pretty recent too? They aren't just solely attacking U.S. targets. and Iran(terrorist county just attack romania)
3) what is our main goal in the middle east?
1) Thats the best evidence you can give me that 70% of World leaders think that Bush is an idiot. Wow, try actually ANSWERING my question with something worthwhile.
2) I meant to imply the MAJORITY of attacks have been focused on US and UK targets, maybe not in our country, but nonetheless. I didn't mean to imply that they haven't been hitting others.
3) I don't know, what do you think. I think we are there to try and get terrorists out of Iraq, and defeat Al Qaeda before they attack us again. Or is that not a good enough reason?
LMFAO, you've GOT to be kidding me. You think the internet doesn't lie......OK, I think I'm done with this conversation right about..........now.cpt.fass1 wrote:
But the internet doesn't lie, that's where we find the truth about what people think.
1) Yeah I'm a little tired right now... I'd have to say more then 70% think he's an idiot if he has the same mannerism then in his public speak. That's why they keep sending him to the farm..
2) Wow, it wasn't Bush's fault, it is the lack of action that the world has, it is the lack of action and the impotency of the UN that caused that, it is people not giving a damn until their country is attacked by terrorists. Why have the terrorists only been hitting UK and US targets lately? Because we're fighting them? Yes and No, they don't want more enemies.
Did a really horrible job of implying the Majority of attacks....
3) to tell you the truth right now I have absolutly no friggen idea, But I know I'm paying for it and my kids will be too, and probably theirs. Third world country status he we come. I think our biggest cash crop is tabacco and we're in a feverish way trying to stop it.
Al Qaeda has absoultly nothing to do with Iraq..
2) Wow, it wasn't Bush's fault, it is the lack of action that the world has, it is the lack of action and the impotency of the UN that caused that, it is people not giving a damn until their country is attacked by terrorists. Why have the terrorists only been hitting UK and US targets lately? Because we're fighting them? Yes and No, they don't want more enemies.
Did a really horrible job of implying the Majority of attacks....
3) to tell you the truth right now I have absolutly no friggen idea, But I know I'm paying for it and my kids will be too, and probably theirs. Third world country status he we come. I think our biggest cash crop is tabacco and we're in a feverish way trying to stop it.
Al Qaeda has absoultly nothing to do with Iraq..
I was kidding. I always through in humor when debating things keeps people on there toes.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
LMFAO, you've GOT to be kidding me. You think the internet doesn't lie......OK, I think I'm done with this conversation right about..........now.cpt.fass1 wrote:
But the internet doesn't lie, that's where we find the truth about what people think.
Aha....cpt.fass1 wrote:
I was kidding. I always through in humor when debating things keeps people on there toes.
Al Qaeda has NOTHING to do with Iraq??
Zarqawi an Al Qaeda operative didn't meet with Saddam and financees of Al Qaeda prior to the war and PRIOR to 9/11....Ok I'm just making this stuff up. Nope, nothing to do with Iraq. Ok have fun in fantasy land.
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